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  SpottyGekko

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7/04/14 8:47:38 AM#21

There's a never-ending stream of criticism, insults, slander and straight-out lies directed at WoW, because it is the most popular and most profitable themepark MMO in the history of the genre. Success breeds envy.

 

I have never played WoW (not even a free trial) and never will. It simply doesn't appeal to me. But that doesn't mean I can't be objective about it.

  hikaru77

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7/04/14 9:11:45 AM#22
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

And the one which is supposedly on death bed for years now according to the members of this very site and is unable to generate interest in public anymore.

The only people who really care about WoW and this new Xpac is the people who play it, or have played it for some years.  Maybe WS should be worried because pretty much all their playerbase come from WoW.  I know is hard to believe, but not everyone like the game and you´ll find a insane amount of MMO players, more than the people who actually play WoW,  that are spread playing other games (MMOs).  

So all this ¨Madness.  come from the same people who have been playing the game for the last 10 years.

  

  Colt47

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7/04/14 9:22:10 AM#23
The primary reason I never go back to it is that, much like a number of people, I left a lot of baggage back in that game that will inevitably follow me if I go back (i.e., used to be a hardcore raider, have a lot of old guildmates playing, etc.).  It feels like if I step back into it, I'll just have to deal with all of that again.  Now I mostly play Path of Exile and Mario Kart 8.  =)
  Foobarx

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7/04/14 9:27:18 AM#24

Considering that everything that you ever wanted to know about the expansion is broadcast daily on the MMO-Champion, I don't see the point in even doing the beta.  

 

But you have to realize, the WoW peeps are starving for new content, so much so that they will complete WoD before WoD is released if they have to.  If present WoW was engaging, they'd wait.  But present WoW is like another 3 months of the same content they've been doing for the past 6 months.  SOO over with it.

  Hariken

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7/04/14 9:27:23 AM#25
Originally posted by Kyleran
I confess, the furor this beta has generated sure surprised me, never thought there'd be such rabid fanaticism over such an old game.

Probably do to the fact that every game since wow has been overrated and hyped up on game sites like this one. ESO and Wildstar will feel the pain when wod comes out. And those other new games aren't even worth talking about.

  Sovrath

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7/04/14 9:29:57 AM#26
Originally posted by Kyleran
I confess, the furor this beta has generated sure surprised me, never thought there'd be such rabid fanaticism over such an old game.

I think it's only an "old game" for those who left it behind.

For those who are still engaged with its game play, it's as relevant as ever.

And of course, with its changes over the years it will gain or lose players as those changes attract or repel players.

I think sometimes people think "old is yesterday's news".  But sometimes "old" is just plain better.

It's a shame I'm not a WoW player though I've tried many times. I just can't get interested in it where I log in every day.

  Colt47

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7/04/14 7:26:24 PM#27
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Kyleran
I confess, the furor this beta has generated sure surprised me, never thought there'd be such rabid fanaticism over such an old game.

I think it's only an "old game" for those who left it behind.

For those who are still engaged with its game play, it's as relevant as ever.

And of course, with its changes over the years it will gain or lose players as those changes attract or repel players.

I think sometimes people think "old is yesterday's news".  But sometimes "old" is just plain better.

It's a shame I'm not a WoW player though I've tried many times. I just can't get interested in it where I log in every day.

That's perfectly normal.  The low levels of the game are very boring even with the voice acting and story lines.    I'm not sure if it's the lack of social interaction that does it or how run of the mill and trivial the quests are, but it's a slog.

Heck, even the end game can get somewhat tedious and boring fairly fast without a guild to keep things interesting.  The primary reason WoW has stayed king so long is how easy it is to play and the gear grinding.  I'd hate to think what the game would be like if they made all dropped gear have random statistics as well, with lower and higher quality versions everywhere.  It would be the themepark version of Diablo II.

  User Deleted
7/04/14 7:49:23 PM#28
Originally posted by DamonVile
But it's just a beta....to a game you know you'll buy. Playing it could only detract from your experience once it goes live.....gamers really have no self restraint at all.

Which is why we have alpha access packs being sold for F2P games now.

OT, did you notice that most of the people posting were 1 post accounts?  We had a huge influx of WoW players that do not usually frequent this site.

  Colt47

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7/04/14 7:57:47 PM#29
Originally posted by Acidon.Numen
Originally posted by DamonVile
But it's just a beta....to a game you know you'll buy. Playing it could only detract from your experience once it goes live.....gamers really have no self restraint at all.

Which is why we have alpha access packs being sold for F2P games now.

OT, did you notice that most of the people posting were 1 post accounts?  We had a huge influx of WoW players that do not usually frequent this site.

Maybe there was a forum apocalypse on the WoW forums?  That place is pretty one sided when it comes to conversations involving the game.

  JoeyMMO

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To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

7/05/14 3:15:45 AM#30

Why wouldn't WoW players be interested in a sneak peak at the latest version of their game? Graphics overhaul is long overdue, hopefully performance won't suffer too much.

It's not hard to believe when you're talking about about the undisputed King of the Hill.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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7/05/14 7:53:37 AM#31
Originally posted by JoeyMMO

hopefully performance won't suffer too much.

I'm not too worried about that here... Core I7 4790K @4.4ghz and AMD 290x... bring it on, Blizzard, I run all latest games at max settings at 60+ fps.

The update will be very welcome.

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  observer

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First came pride, then envy.

7/05/14 3:51:13 PM#32
Originally posted by Gravarg
Yep, I've been telling people that from what I've seen on youtube, WoD could be considered WoW 2.  They've updated pretty much everything in the game, and find it coincidental that WoW is going back to the beginning.

That's a slight exaggeration. lol.

The only thing truly updated are the models, and i haven't even seen if there will be new customization options, such as skins, hair, faces, etc.

There will still be quests.

There will still be max-level content that the devs focus solely on.

There will still be dungeons & raids.

Everything is still the same, with only a few additions such as Garrisons.

  Panther2103

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7/05/14 3:57:44 PM#33
People that say WoW is dying are just kidding themselves. Sure it is losing steam, it isn't gaining players anymore, but they sure know how to keep players coming back. The game still has a TON of subscribers compared to any other game, and they haven't updated it for what a year now? Name an MMO that would retain that sort of population without getting updated whatsoever. People just hope it's dying, the problem is, is that it won't die. It will keep going as long as blizzard decides to release expansions. I hate to admit it but I'll probably go back for WoD, even though I'm perfectly happy with Wildstar right now. It's just how it works, they make it very enticing to go back each release, then once you get tired of the content you go onto another game for a while until you feel like playing WoW again.
  DMKano

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7/05/14 4:02:28 PM#34
Originally posted by Robokapp
it's not hard when you're talking about the King of MMOs.

Exactly - has nothing to do with age - it has to do with a huge number of players.

It would be like saying - hard to believe Soccer World cup madness for a game thats over 100 years old.

 

  coretex666

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7/05/14 5:02:48 PM#35
Originally posted by gondule
Originally posted by TankYou88
I think once you start complaining about graphics you lose all credibility as a RPG player. The best RPGs dont look good what so ever, or at least not compared to the games of the same era.  Some of the best games are from the 90s and early 00s which most gamers still go back and play.

Exactly I go back and play Ultima Underworld pretty often. Then you got the OG BioWare games/Black Isle. Shit gets so deep and amazing I could never not replay them. Focusing on graphics definitely when it comes to an RPG is fucking retarded.

I have to say I am positively surprised by these opinions.

Apparently, there still are some RPG players on this page. Thought there were only console, action combat, MOBA, MMO, etc.... players left.

gj guys

 

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  Sleepyfish

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7/05/14 5:06:32 PM#36
Originally posted by Panther2103
People that say WoW is dying are just kidding themselves. Sure it is losing steam, it isn't gaining players anymore, but they sure know how to keep players coming back. The game still has a TON of subscribers compared to any other game, and they haven't updated it for what a year now? Name an MMO that would retain that sort of population without getting updated whatsoever. People just hope it's dying, the problem is, is that it won't die. It will keep going as long as blizzard decides to release expansions. I hate to admit it but I'll probably go back for WoD, even though I'm perfectly happy with Wildstar right now. It's just how it works, they make it very enticing to go back each release, then once you get tired of the content you go onto another game for a while until you feel like playing WoW again.

Meh post Cata WOW is not the same game at all really. I think if they released it today the way it is now it wouldnt do any better than the others. Also to keep from doing server mergers they just took a page from GW2 now you have server clusters. Back in the day Boulderfist was FULL without any help from other servers, now they cram it together with other servers to make it seem  full and alive. WOD is looking pretty low to me personally. They are basically removing skills, removing CC  and over simplifying an already over simplified game. I personally think combat in pvp is going to be an unmitigated disaster, but the keeps might keep people interested. Its obviously a pure PVE dps spike expansion. Before when i played wow I could always find something fun to do, this time it felt soulless and pointless, way to dumbed down now. 

  threefeet

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7/05/14 5:13:03 PM#37
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

And the one which is supposedly on death bed for years now according to the members of this very site and is unable to generate interest in public anymore.

 

what madness? looks to me you just came here to drum up promotion for your favorite video game (or the one you work for), just because no one else cares enough to bring it up.

 

#FAIL

  DamonVile

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7/05/14 5:16:45 PM#38
Originally posted by threefeet
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

And the one which is supposedly on death bed for years now according to the members of this very site and is unable to generate interest in public anymore.

 

what madness? looks to me you just came here to drum up promotion for your favorite video game (or the one you work for), just because no one else cares enough to bring it up.

 

#FAIL

Yeah...no one has been talking about wow around here the last few days at all. Nice post cap'n oblivious.

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  TankYou88

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7/05/14 5:29:53 PM#39
Originally posted by threefeet
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

And the one which is supposedly on death bed for years now according to the members of this very site and is unable to generate interest in public anymore.

 

what madness? looks to me you just came here to drum up promotion for your favorite video game (or the one you work for), just because no one else cares enough to bring it up.

 

#FAIL

Sounds like he was talking about you...lol.

  OminousDawn

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7/05/14 7:06:12 PM#40
Originally posted by TankYou88
I think once you start complaining about graphics you lose all credibility as a RPG player. The best RPGs dont look good what so ever, or at least not compared to the games of the same era.  Some of the best games are from the 90s and early 00s which most gamers still go back and play.

 

It's called a "video" game for a reason.  Like I said, if I have to look at a game for hours on end I want to be looking at a "quality" presentation.  It's called discerning taste.  You'd have a point if I had of said I prefer graphics over game play.  But that is not what I said.  I want both good graphics and good game play and If I don't get both I will go outside and get some sun.  There is life outside of video games after all.  Your standards, however, are much lower.  You would, in fact, settle for looking at "crappy" graphics as long as it has good game play.  I don't know what that says about you but if you want to elevate yourself by calling yourself a "credible" RPG player because you don't mind playing an RPG with "crappy" graphics then more power to you. 

Regarding the so called best games from the 90s and early 00s, the graphics on those games where the state of the art in their time.  The reason "most gamers" still go back and play them is because they built a loyal following and they "tolerate" the game despite their awful graphics by today's standards.  Contrary to your biased beliefs, there are also many younger gamers who would never play those games because they are "old school," for lack of a better word.   It's called game play preferences.  And like opinions, everyone has them.

Finally, if graphics weren't so important, why is a "graphics overhaul" such a major selling point of this update.  It must obviously be important to many, and most importantly to Blizzard if they felt it necessary to invest millions in overhauling their graphics.

 

The game you are looking for requiring no PvE completion and where you can just jump in and start mindlessly shooting at people is that way - >>>>

... it's called an FPS.

Quit ruining the MMORPG genre with your constant "PvE grind" whines.

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