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  bcbully

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7/04/14 9:09:31 AM#61
No, a "reboot" is not needed. A new advertising campaign would be a great idea though. There are 0 bots in ESO now, 0 gold seller spam, and quests have been fixed. There is a new issue of fps loss in Cyrodiil (pretty f'n major), but other than that ESO has come a long way during the first 3 months. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Ratero

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7/04/14 9:33:21 AM#62
Originally posted by bcbully
No, a "reboot" is not needed. A new advertising campaign would be a great idea though. There are 0 bots in ESO now, 0 gold seller spam, and quests have been fixed. There is a new issue of fps loss in Cyrodiil (pretty f'n major), but other than that ESO has come a long way during the first 3 months. 

Bots and Gold Sellers only stick around in games in which they can make a profit due to the population purchasing the Gold from them.  No population = No Sales = Bots and Gold Sellers go to next Game they can Farm.

 

Ratero.

  bcbully

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7/04/14 12:09:22 PM#63
Originally posted by Ratero
Originally posted by bcbully
No, a "reboot" is not needed. A new advertising campaign would be a great idea though. There are 0 bots in ESO now, 0 gold seller spam, and quests have been fixed. There is a new issue of fps loss in Cyrodiil (pretty f'n major), but other than that ESO has come a long way during the first 3 months. 

Bots and Gold Sellers only stick around in games in which they can make a profit due to the population purchasing the Gold from them.  No population = No Sales = Bots and Gold Sellers go to next Game they can Farm.

 

Ratero.

Riiight, keep believing that lmao. 

 

ZOS got a couple things right on the technical side. Their account security and bot prevention codes are top notch.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  vandal5627

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Joined: 12/04/12
Posts: 319

7/04/14 12:15:01 PM#64
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Ratero
Originally posted by bcbully
No, a "reboot" is not needed. A new advertising campaign would be a great idea though. There are 0 bots in ESO now, 0 gold seller spam, and quests have been fixed. There is a new issue of fps loss in Cyrodiil (pretty f'n major), but other than that ESO has come a long way during the first 3 months. 

Bots and Gold Sellers only stick around in games in which they can make a profit due to the population purchasing the Gold from them.  No population = No Sales = Bots and Gold Sellers go to next Game they can Farm.

 

Ratero.

Riiight, keep believing that lmao. 

 

ZOS got a couple things right on the technical side. Their account security and bot prevention codes are top notch.

I think he's actually right, noone can stop bots but themselves no matter how top notch the prevention codes are.

  Iselin

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Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 3910

7/04/14 12:19:43 PM#65
Originally posted by vandal5627
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Ratero
Originally posted by bcbully
No, a "reboot" is not needed. A new advertising campaign would be a great idea though. There are 0 bots in ESO now, 0 gold seller spam, and quests have been fixed. There is a new issue of fps loss in Cyrodiil (pretty f'n major), but other than that ESO has come a long way during the first 3 months. 

Bots and Gold Sellers only stick around in games in which they can make a profit due to the population purchasing the Gold from them.  No population = No Sales = Bots and Gold Sellers go to next Game they can Farm.

 

Ratero.

Riiight, keep believing that lmao. 

 

ZOS got a couple things right on the technical side. Their account security and bot prevention codes are top notch.

I think he's actually right, noone can stop bots but themselves no matter how top notch the prevention codes are.

Doesn't stop a lot of people from bashing devs for "allowing" bots to keep botting... it happened here and some still bring it up as a knock against ZOS and it's also happening in the Wildstar forums.

  Moar61

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Joined: 3/24/14
Posts: 234

7/04/14 12:26:48 PM#66

I think ESO should have been sandbox oriented from the get go. It bothers me to believe that they decided to not make it happen. Would it be challening? Sure, but this is the ES IP and you should probably do your damn best to make it as top notch and favourable to the series. 

 

With that said I still greatly enjoyed the game, I'm not subbed atm because the VR quest grind started getting tedious and in summer I simply don't have time for that. I think ZOS knows what they need to do. Even if they slowly opened up sandbox elements to the game little at a time, that would make a big difference

  Raquis

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Joined: 3/18/13
Posts: 361

7/04/14 12:28:16 PM#67

yes ESO is a average overpriced quest grind.

I uninstalled the crap last night and did not even play it for more than a view weeks.

when are we going to get a real elders scrolls game?

if the eso crap did not happen we would have had a real elders scrolls game from Bethesda and todd howard now we have a fake overpriced  pretty turd.

  Xsorus

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Joined: 10/20/05
Posts: 173

7/04/14 12:28:44 PM#68

They're not going to reboot a game based on a bunch of bads on the internet hating on their game.

If that was the case, every single MMO would be rebooting their MMO every 6 months because you can't please most of the herp a derps who post on the forums.

 

 

 

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  Xsorus

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7/04/14 12:29:58 PM#69
Originally posted by Raquis

yes ESO is a average overpriced quest grind.

I uninstalled the crap last night and did not even play it for more than a view weeks.

when are we going to get a real elders scrolls game?

if the eso crap did not happen we would have had a real elders scrolls game from Bethesda and todd howard now we have a fake overpriced  pretty turd.

You realize ESO is not made by the people who make the other Elder Scrolls games right?

 

Probably not..See my previous post on Herp a Derps

 

 

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  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
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7/04/14 12:48:13 PM#70
Originally posted by Raquis

yes ESO is a average overpriced quest grind.

I uninstalled the crap last night and did not even play it for more than a view weeks.

when are we going to get a real elders scrolls game?

if the eso crap did not happen we would have had a real elders scrolls game from Bethesda and todd howard now we have a fake overpriced  pretty turd.

Idk maybe that's what ESO looks like to PvE only people.

 

To the PvPr the action is as good as it gets atm. No quest needed. I rarely step foot in "PvE land" as I like to call it. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  vandal5627

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Joined: 12/04/12
Posts: 319

7/04/14 1:25:23 PM#71
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by vandal5627
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Ratero
Originally posted by bcbully
No, a "reboot" is not needed. A new advertising campaign would be a great idea though. There are 0 bots in ESO now, 0 gold seller spam, and quests have been fixed. There is a new issue of fps loss in Cyrodiil (pretty f'n major), but other than that ESO has come a long way during the first 3 months. 

Bots and Gold Sellers only stick around in games in which they can make a profit due to the population purchasing the Gold from them.  No population = No Sales = Bots and Gold Sellers go to next Game they can Farm.

 

Ratero.

Riiight, keep believing that lmao. 

 

ZOS got a couple things right on the technical side. Their account security and bot prevention codes are top notch.

I think he's actually right, noone can stop bots but themselves no matter how top notch the prevention codes are.

Doesn't stop a lot of people from bashing devs for "allowing" bots to keep botting... it happened here and some still bring it up as a knock against ZOS and it's also happening in the Wildstar forums.

I totally agree with you, there shouldnt be any knock on games because of bots if they are clearly trying to fight them.  It's not that easy as people think it is without affecting legit players.

  gervaise1

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Joined: 1/17/07
Posts: 1386

7/04/14 3:56:46 PM#72
Originally posted by Xsorus

 

You realize ESO is not made by the people who make the other Elder Scrolls games right?

Not that simple.

Ask yourself a couple of questions:

  • Do you think TESO could have been released with Wildstar type graphics? Different studio right so they could do what they wanted yes? And what if they decided to add a few Norse gods and maybe the odd ray gun?
  • Were the people who made The Elder Scrolls: Arena the same people who made Skyrim? Both by Bethseda after all.
 
Zenimax Media own both studios and the IP - which will be carefully protected.
  • Its not about people.
  • Partly it is about culture and organisation (will depend in part on the level of central control exerted by ZM). 
  • ZoS will also have had access to lots of information from Bethseda; they will not have been starting from scratch.
  • And game fundamentals will have been carefully checked. 
As I said its not simple. Easiest way to think of it is that both games were made by Zenimax Media. 
 
An analogy: Snow White and Beauty and the Beast. Different teams of people obviously. And there are differences. But at the end of the day both of them have the Disney style.    
  
 
  Xsorus

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Posts: 173

7/04/14 10:17:44 PM#73
Originally posted by gervaise1
Originally posted by Xsorus

 

You realize ESO is not made by the people who make the other Elder Scrolls games right?

Not that simple.

Ask yourself a couple of questions:

  • Do you think TESO could have been released with Wildstar type graphics? Different studio right so they could do what they wanted yes? And what if they decided to add a few Norse gods and maybe the odd ray gun?
  • Were the people who made The Elder Scrolls: Arena the same people who made Skyrim? Both by Bethseda after all.
 
Zenimax Media own both studios and the IP - which will be carefully protected.
  • Its not about people.
  • Partly it is about culture and organisation (will depend in part on the level of central control exerted by ZM). 
  • ZoS will also have had access to lots of information from Bethseda; they will not have been starting from scratch.
  • And game fundamentals will have been carefully checked. 
As I said its not simple. Easiest way to think of it is that both games were made by Zenimax Media. 
 
An analogy: Snow White and Beauty and the Beast. Different teams of people obviously. And there are differences. But at the end of the day both of them have the Disney style.    
  
 

 

No..Its pretty much that simple

I'll explain it even better for ya, The people who make the single player Elder Scrolls game, aren't even in the same BUILDING as the people who made ESO

How do I know this? Because I have a guildie who worked for Bethesda, and he spent most of his time working the DLC's for Skyrim....the people doing ESO were completely separate from the people who worked on Skyrim. If you want to know what the people who did Skyrim are working on, Its Fall Out 4.... That is not a joke either, They were working on Assets for it even before ESO was released.

 

 

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  Deddmeat

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Not sure how I got K.A.E.S last PvP was CoD and UO lol

7/18/14 4:51:27 AM#74

I'd have preferred it as a pvp game I think, you can still have the missions for pve in it, just add some kind of guard force who help a bit to protect from camping the npcs and then tanking those on quests in lower levels .. I think it builds more community as you rely on each other more for either attack or protection from attack.

I'd like a game somewhat like the OLD UO, the pvp one just in current day graphics and 'maybe' a new skill system, still skill based though.

If they wanted to make a TES MMO, they could have pulled that off.

  gervaise1

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7/18/14 8:18:02 AM#75
Originally posted by Deddmeat

 

I'd like a game somewhat like the OLD UO, the pvp one just in current day graphics and 'maybe' a new skill system, still skill based though.

 

You should probably look into Darkfall. It isn't UO - there are differences - but it is "UO like" and may be something you like. There are vids you can look at etc.so you can see if you like the graphics and so forth.

  Haralin

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7/18/14 8:28:14 AM#76
Originally posted by Destai
No, it's time for Bethesda to make an Elder Scrolls 6 that's all of Tamriel with a multiplayer mode. That's what many people want - Skyrim/Oblivion/etc. with friends, not a DAOC style game. 

No i wanted a DAoC Style game but eso is not a DAoC style game it is PvP wise just staffs and robes :D

  Haralin

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7/18/14 8:29:08 AM#77
Originally posted by gervaise1
Originally posted by Deddmeat

 

I'd like a game somewhat like the OLD UO, the pvp one just in current day graphics and 'maybe' a new skill system, still skill based though.

 

You should probably look into Darkfall. It isn't UO - there are differences - but it is "UO like" and may be something you like. There are vids you can look at etc.so you can see if you like the graphics and so forth.

Or he should have a look on Albion online!

  Deddmeat

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Not sure how I got K.A.E.S last PvP was CoD and UO lol

7/21/14 4:41:41 PM#78

Thanks, I'll take a closer look at Albion online

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