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  Instigator-Jones

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Joined: 2/07/13
Posts: 345

7/02/14 11:23:05 PM#41
Originally posted by Daessar

Another thread with minimal information by the Op.

First question is the definition of banned, since the internet has twisted the meaning over the years.

So were you "banned" as in permanent account closure, or do you actually mean "suspended" as in a temporary stop pending an investigation.

Can you access the official forums? Did make a post there? Have you created a support ticket?

Did you actually read the official post, where they said some legitimate players could get caught up in there big bans on bots, and they would un-ban them as quickly as they could?

Were you afking in battlegrounds?

You made reference to exploiting in your post, apparently that was what they accused you of? Did you try to do some exploits you saw in a video or on a forum post?

What addons specifically did you use, maybe one of them causes a false indication?

 

If you just wanted to post a complain post.....uh ok, sure...if you really want assistance then you need more than 2 lines, otherwise nobody cares, its not our money if you want to just give up.

^This pretty much says it all; red emphasizes the real sentiment. With all the bottling and shenanigans that the player base have been complaining about, I'm glad ban's and account perma-bans are coming out. I get the feeling that Carbine is adopting the "Don't Mess with Nexus" moniker. 

  Uproar

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Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 406

I was once Tailrot, Uproar, Bandage, Thus(tin) Hammered, Rock, and so many more. Aye gamerest.

 
OP  7/03/14 5:33:10 PM#42

Most of you can bite me.  I did not exploit.  I've never exploited.  Been playing MMOs and Muds since 1996.  I've played most every MMO out there.  Never run a 3rd party program in my life or otherwise played unfairly.

I will answer a few questions for the sake that they were reasonable:

So were you "banned" as in permanent account closure, or do you actually mean "suspended" as in a temporary stop pending an investigation.

- IDK for certain.  It says suspended when I try to log in.  I have received no email to go with that.  I did receive an email that my subscription was canceled.  I have tried to resubscribe and it tells me my account is suspended.

OP did you have the 2-step authenticator?

- No.  Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now).  If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!

Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this  one.  Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker?  I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother.

As to asking for help?  I really didn't other then to find out if others are having same issue.

Wildstar's excuse for not replying within the promised time limit?  IDK -- no REPLY!!!!  

I contacted Paypal for a refund.  I am down with a company that acts in this way.   I guess that means I am down with a few other NCSOFT games as well. 

 

 

 

  Uproar

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Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 406

I was once Tailrot, Uproar, Bandage, Thus(tin) Hammered, Rock, and so many more. Aye gamerest.

 
OP  7/03/14 5:34:51 PM#43
Down and Done (correction to last post)

  SideTraKd

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Joined: 11/28/06
Posts: 101

7/05/14 4:52:10 PM#44
Originally posted by Uproar

OP did you have the 2-step authenticator?

- No.  Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now).  If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!

Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this  one.  Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker?  I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother. 

They bother.  They bother a lot.

So, basically, you didn't take any personal responsibility to protect your own account, even though they even offer you an XP incentive to do it, and now when things go wrong, it is someone else's fault?

I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

  threefeet

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Joined: 1/30/14
Posts: 117

7/05/14 5:02:58 PM#45
Originally posted by SideTraKd
Originally posted by Uproar

OP did you have the 2-step authenticator?

- No.  Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now).  If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!

Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this  one.  Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker?  I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother. 

They bother.  They bother a lot.

So, basically, you didn't take any personal responsibility to protect your own account, even though they even offer you an XP incentive to do it, and now when things go wrong, it is someone else's fault?

I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

 

no, no, no no no...you dont have the slightest clue as to what went on with this guy, so you have absolutely no place to sit there and tell him acct security on his end was lacking and that it was his fault.

the only people who know what went on here, if it wasnt him, is carbine. so dont even pretend youre gonna act all high n mighty thinking you can pin someone to the wall with no facts and just your bullsh*t.

  BurntCabbage

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Joined: 3/23/14
Posts: 253

7/05/14 5:10:48 PM#46

just wait it will get better...do what this guy does and just wait

  SideTraKd

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Joined: 11/28/06
Posts: 101

7/05/14 5:15:02 PM#47
Originally posted by threefeet
Originally posted by SideTraKd
Originally posted by Uproar

OP did you have the 2-step authenticator?

- No.  Again had the game 5-days. (well add 1 now).  If it's required it should be IDK -- REQUIRED!

Have used them in other games -- haven't got around to it in this  one.  Besides I highly doubt anyone was using my account as each time I logged in I was EXACTLY where I had left it and on the correct server (have read threads about other stuff). Fakable by a hacker?  I suppose-- but I doubt they'd bother. 

They bother.  They bother a lot.

So, basically, you didn't take any personal responsibility to protect your own account, even though they even offer you an XP incentive to do it, and now when things go wrong, it is someone else's fault?

I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

 

no, no, no no no...you dont have the slightest clue as to what went on with this guy, so you have absolutely no place to sit there and tell him acct security on his end was lacking and that it was his fault.

the only people who know what went on here, if it wasnt him, is carbine. so dont even pretend youre gonna act all high n mighty thinking you can pin someone to the wall with no facts and just your bullsh*t.

Except that he just OPENLY ADMITTED that account security on his end was lacking.

Do try to pay attention before you go on a rant about someone ELSE not having any facts.

  Hariken

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Joined: 7/15/13
Posts: 432

7/05/14 5:16:15 PM#48
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

  lebros1989

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Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 36

7/05/14 5:21:46 PM#49
I heard they are reserving the right to ban any accounts that may have given away a game key that was used to bot/exploit and resulted in that key getting banned.  So if you gave a key out online to a random person, maybe they got banned and this is the ripple effect. Otherwise I have no idea.
  SideTraKd

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Joined: 11/28/06
Posts: 101

7/05/14 5:31:45 PM#50
Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

The game is set up specifically for use with addons.  

In fact, most of the base UI elements and whatnot are addons written by Carbine. 

Addons aren't the issue here.

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 3662

7/05/14 5:52:48 PM#51
Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit  Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them. 

As I said before, imho the 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  TheQuietGamer

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Joined: 6/02/14
Posts: 330

7/05/14 5:56:42 PM#52
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit  Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them. 

As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.

Wildstar requires add-ons to correct shit design imo. It needs JunkIt, Improved Preview, anything to improve the awful quest list.  It really also needs add-ons to remove the god-awful clusterfuck pvp and tedious generic, dated questing.  

Plus, Wildstar has apparently embraced add-ons.  They gotta police them if they allow people to use them.  And by policing them I do not mean arbitrarily getting out the ban hammer.  

  kikosforever

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Joined: 5/02/14
Posts: 397

7/05/14 6:01:16 PM#53
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit  Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them. 

As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.

 

Agree 100%

Plus the 2 step authenticator is a very secure, free, accessible by anyone as it has platforms for android phones, pc windows etc and you even get a small ingame reward by activating it.

I really cant understand why some ppl risk with their accounts and they don't use the authenticator...

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 3662

7/05/14 6:05:08 PM#54
Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit  Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them. 

As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.

Wildstar requires add-ons to correct shit design imo. It needs JunkIt, Improved Preview, anything to improve the awful quest list.  It really also needs add-ons to remove the god-awful clusterfuck pvp and tedious generic, dated questing.  

Plus, Wildstar has apparently embraced add-ons.  They gotta police them if they allow people to use them.  And by policing them I do not mean arbitrarily getting out the ban hammer.  

Your first paragraph is you opinion and I really can't address that. To me it is perfectly fine. /shrug

Addons aren't the issue here though. The issue is the ops account was banned. IMHO if addons were so malicious they wouldn't be allowed at all. "The Ban Hammer" happens with every new release, because folks use credentials from other games on new ones. 

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  cerulean2012

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Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 175

7/05/14 6:06:09 PM#55

Considering this thread is not about add-ons but about the OP saying he was banned for no reason.

Now I know that from time to time companies do accedently ban innocent people while banning those that deserve the bans, it happens and that is unfortunate.  But as most who see these threads on the forums can say is a vast majority of them we wind up finding out that the starter of the thread really deserved the ban so having sympathy for this threads OP is almost not existent.

Now from what OP has posted and the little info he has provided that only real thing that can be determined is that he was banned and he wasn't using the highest possible security for his account.  I am not saying that his account was hacked.  There are numerous reasons why he could have been banned starting from exploting to afking to maybe having a character name that was against the eula, we don't know.

The OP might have an idea and is not saying.  For privacy reasons we would not expect anyone from the Wildstar team to post any info so all we can do is speculate and maybe provide some suggestions to the OP.

So if OP is not going to provide any real details, well all we can do is really go with the normal and side with the belief that the OP is guilty.

  huihuhuhu2

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Joined: 9/06/13
Posts: 28

7/05/14 6:08:22 PM#56
for every one thing positive i hear about this game i hear two more negative...not sure what to think of that so think i'll stay away a while til things work out better
  TheQuietGamer

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Joined: 6/02/14
Posts: 330

7/05/14 6:10:30 PM#57
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by TheQuietGamer
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by flizzer
I never understood this add-on business.  I'm not saying add-ons got you banned, but someone did mention it as a possibility.  I figure If I can't download and play the game as presented then I'm not playing. If I need an add-on to play a game then I don't play the game. 

This 100% i will never understand this need for 3rd party addons. Its just asking for trouble.

WoW has over 4000 addons and it has hardly hurt them one bit  Addons enhance the game and are not necessary if you don't want to use them. 

As I said before, imho he 2 step authentication should be a standard for all games now. It takes no time to use and coupled with ip authentication it would be almost impossible to get hacked, with or without a password.

Wildstar requires add-ons to correct shit design imo. It needs JunkIt, Improved Preview, anything to improve the awful quest list.  It really also needs add-ons to remove the god-awful clusterfuck pvp and tedious generic, dated questing.  

Plus, Wildstar has apparently embraced add-ons.  They gotta police them if they allow people to use them.  And by policing them I do not mean arbitrarily getting out the ban hammer.  

Your first paragraph is you opinion and I really can't address that. To me it is perfectly fine. /shrug

Addons aren't the issue here though. The issue is the ops account was banned. IMHO if addons were so malicious they wouldn't be allowed at all. "The Ban Hammer" happens with every new release, because folks use credentials from other games on new ones. 

Yeah, opinions are opinions, we can disagree all day and it will resolve nothing.  

I like that a game allows add-ons, but I also think that with giving players that option they gotta make the limitations clear.  Ok, my last post was probably just bashed out with much thought, but if I am on (as an example) Curse.com I kinda expect the add-on to be legitimate and to have been checked.  I would be rather peeved if I use one and got banned from what you expect to be a legitimate site offering something the game tells you is acceptable.  

Then again, I do not know how or why the OP got banned; the main issue is the slow response from support. 

 

  BurntCabbage

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/23/14
Posts: 253

7/05/14 6:16:26 PM#58

my guess is he was using add-ons or maybe the google authenticater thingy

as far as add ons ..when i did play with a friend he said

"dude i found this addon and its great! it shows you where the nodes are and a line leading to it"

i was like..why do you need that? the map shows you anyways and the game has most of the addon type things already made into the game...then he was like..well its red instead of green..i just smh

some people out there think they are just soo "cool" to being using a new addon or as many as they can no matter what it is..just to tell the next guy !hey! i got this cool addon do you have it?! ..no? well im leading the "im cooler" than you life now lol

  Arazale

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/13/08
Posts: 52

7/05/14 6:18:54 PM#59
Originally posted by Datawarlock
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by Datawarlock
Originally posted by Jimmy562
Originally posted by Purutzil

There is no such thing as banned for nothing.

 

1.) You weren't using the authenticator and as such got hacked and banned.

2.) You were botting whether afk bot or other means and got banned for it.

3.) You found an exploit and exploited it.

4.) You were accidentally banned, something that is extremely unlikely.

 

I'd assume likely 1 or 2. Spamming messages for this is useless, either way it is YOUR fault.  Reusing the same password for everything isn't good, and if you are botting, well then I don't think anyone alive would be against your banning. 

They could have been banned accidentally but either way it's still their fault?

Welcome to MMORPG.com forums, where you're guilty until you give up trying to prove yourself innocent and just slit your wrists.

What happens if everyone says he's innocent ? Is there singing, trumpets ?

Or does the same thing happen either way.

If everyone on THIS SITE said he was innocent, the rapture would start.

It already has....on HBO's new tv show The Leftovers.

  fascism

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Joined: 4/05/12
Posts: 355

7/05/14 6:21:37 PM#60
I got banned today for 132 hours it says for "3rd party applications", I have a 2 step auth and access history tells me I havent logged in from anywhere but my house, I played the game for maybe 8 hours and was level 19 and didnt even have any add ons or anything like that, oh well. Funny thing is it happened an hour after I canceled my sub, but im sure thats just a coincidence.
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