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Darkfall: Unholy Wars 

General Discussion  » Darkfall: Unholy Wars is a lot more like Skyrim than ESO ever tried to be. (I had to see it to believe it)

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  Abuz0r

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Joined: 12/03/12
Posts: 315

 
OP  7/01/14 10:13:27 PM#21
Crafting boats is cool.  I had a lot of trouble figuring out how to deploy my first boat, this game doesn't hold your hand very much.  Turns out you can't put a sea-going vessel in a small pond.
  threefeet

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Joined: 1/30/14
Posts: 147

7/01/14 10:53:56 PM#22
a sub fee for a game that you can lose all your gear in? lol. no thanks. make it f2p and id give it a whirl.

  Gdemami

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Joined: 9/23/08
Posts: 7312

7/02/14 2:46:10 AM#23


Originally posted by Tibernicuspa

It's the closest to a fantasy version of Eve

No, it isn't.

Explained why and there is no reason to repeat misconception the other poster was making.

  Abuz0r

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Joined: 12/03/12
Posts: 315

 
OP  7/02/14 6:30:21 AM#24
Originally posted by threefeet
a sub fee for a game that you can lose all your gear in? lol. no thanks. make it f2p and id give it a whirl.

Not can, will.

If you don't die and lose your gear, it will break anyways from wear and tear.  It's not 6 months either, if you play consistently it may last a couple of days.  I'm a caster so I don't get hit a lot, (I could start using melee weapons any time I wanted it's just not my style, this game allows you to play as you wish) my gear lasts about 4 days it seems if I play several hours a day.

Most people wait until their armor is close to breaking like 4~5 Endurance points out of 60.  Then they go PvP in it.  It would be highly stupid to go buy or craft a brand new set of the best armor you could and then to show up like a Peacock on the battlefield.

And for people who just cant cut it, there're 3 bound items, a staff, a bow, and a sword.  If you don't want to risk anything, you can't lose those.  You could be one of those noobs running around naked on the battlefield trying to loot corpses before you get 2 shot :D  We make fun of those people though but there's something for everyone.

  kraizy

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Joined: 5/18/04
Posts: 53

7/02/14 6:56:44 AM#25
This game can do so much it wants doesnt matter when people with big mouth and no clue run the company Tasos anyone? :O
  Holophonist

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Joined: 2/15/09
Posts: 2035

7/02/14 4:46:35 PM#26
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Tibernicuspa

It's the closest to a fantasy version of Eve

 

No, it isn't.

Explained why and there is no reason to repeat misconception the other poster was making.

So what's closer?

  Gdemami

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Joined: 9/23/08
Posts: 7312

7/02/14 5:22:14 PM#27


Originally posted by Holophonist

So what's closer?

Imo, nothing can be considered as close.

There is no point in making a robust sandbox thus there aren't really any developers following similar design.

  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2400

7/03/14 10:47:30 AM#28
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Holophonist

So what's closer?

 

Imo, nothing can be considered as close.

There is no point in making a robust sandbox thus there aren't really any developers following similar design.

Is this the Gemini from Image back in DF1?   If so, it just sounds like your jaded from AV's past history of let downs.  I personally think the AV devs right now, over the last year, have been the hardest working dev team in the industry.  They have been relentless in putting out patches to improve the game and they are actually listening to feedback.  Hell, yesterday we had a pretty awesome balance patch after they just recently scrapped the class system.  There were a few issues with the patch, and there was a hotfix this morning.  That's what I mean.  

Devs like Ma$$ are working hard at regaining the trust of the community.  It's also working.  Every night I'm in a battle fighting over territory or providing payback to backstappers or defending a holding. 

DFUW is the fantasy ying to EVE's science fiction yang. 

Next on AV's chopping block is siege equipment with some awesome machinery that will make you salivate.  They are also working on adding quests and an alignment system (which would shrink down the safe zone). 

Regardless, DF is the best MMO I have ever played and it keeps getting better.  For a lot of other people, it is the best game that they will never play.  Sucks to be them.

  sumdumguy1

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Joined: 2/20/11
Posts: 832

7/03/14 11:02:46 AM#29
Sorry this game is not like Skyrim or eve for that matter, its really its own little mess.  No reason to restate what others have already said.
  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2400

7/03/14 11:24:57 AM#30
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Sorry this game is not like Skyrim or eve for that matter, its really its own little mess.  No reason to restate what others have already said.

Sorry, but people need to decide that for themselves.  OP gave a pretty good write up explaining why.  Then you come in here and say nope.  That opinion just doesn't hold weight here. 

  greenreen

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Joined: 11/19/12
Posts: 1500

7/03/14 11:33:29 AM#31

Chiming in here because I recently left the game after playing since about 4/4 so close to 3 mos.

The thing that broke this camel's back was the mentioning of removal of or reduction of space which is considered a safe zone and free from player attack.

A preface.

I've played every sort of PVP mmo you can imagine and even in WOW I chose an RP/PVP server along with in Rift. When given the choice I always took the harder route to level to challenge myself in even a game which offers easier paths because I find PVP more engaging than mob fighting. So, before you get the impression that I'm just too soft or too carebear for this game, let's squash that response at the core.

The game has issues which I've been trying to overlook but I now took to heart and with all combined and forming a larger picture I've decided to discontinue my subscription to the game.

#1

The time to kill is entirely too low. People can attack from behind for increased damage. Because of this, the traditional way you will be met for a battle is from behind and while you are fighting mobs. The person will take 2 hits or more before you are aware that you are being attacked by a player since you can't see behind you. There is no rearview camera. You can circle constantly to try to spot someone near you or jump back and forth but you only end up turning your back to a mob or multiples of them again, taking more damage from a source.

Imagine that the best amount of health you can have is about 450. People regularly attack you for 70+ damage without critting and I was wearing the second best level of armor below heavy - primalist robes. So, I was not built as a glass cannon and was not poofy. There are a maximum of about 6 hits you can take then without reacting properly - how fast do 6 hits happen, that's how long fights can last. In that moment you can't feign death to drop mob aggro, you will be fighting however many mobs are on you and this player.

 

#2

Gear is mandatory. If you refuse to wear gear to reduce the amount of gear you lose, the game punishes you on your character sheet by making 100% of the damage you take be crit damage. Every attack on you by mob or player is always a crit. You can successfully fight some mobs if you can dodge their attacks but you will not win many fights taking 100% crit damage from other players - see TTK above.

 

#3

There is no honor in this game. Nothing is hardcore about attacking someone from behind who is fighting mobs. Nothing is fair about a 100k player destroying a 10k player and returning 1/2 hour later to try to do it again as they rotate through the mob spawns - no glory in these wins. The risk is all on the player trying to eek out an existence and none is on the person attacking people at mob spawns carrying nothing but their gear. The player fighting mobs risks their mob loot AND their gear.

The solution to the ganking problem is always listed as "Join a clan" which then becomes "Why do ppl zerg so much, gawd you cowards" in the complaint when you were attacked. Make up my mind - should I roll with 3 at all times or should I solo because either way I'm wrong. And if I roll with 3 and you bring 5, next you will tell me that I should have rolled with 5 or joined a "better" clan. You see, the problem is never the game, or the players, or the mechanics in place - it's always YOU who is wrong, YOU who are the carebear, YOU who can't just take it like a man. 

I have finally taken it upon myself to disagree that it's me alone and I chose to share blame with a rotten community of some genuine psychopaths who see every person they kill as a notch on their fantasy path as a precursor to acting out their mental illness on real life people. I'm serious, I really found some people in that game from discussion who truly lacked empathy. Even the game developers chose to highlight one of them as a "Community Streamer" who not only spends their entire time camping newbies and rotating the mob spawns, they cast it on Twitch. If you do cast the game on Twitch to advertise it - this person will openly snipe you. This mentality is not helping the game and I can't blame that on the developers but if that's what they choose to advertise it does hold them accountable as accepting of this sort of behavior when they promote it by word or title. 

It's a surreal experience to play Darkfall, I don't expect to ever return to it and it didn't have any sense of community like most MMOs. Many of the players there admitted to being quite young - like 11 years old young. It was impossible to have any intelligent discussion with someone who calls people jew faggot and hasn't even started puberty telling you that all people who don't make 120k a year are losers.

As a side note - If you know me from the forums otherwise I only play sub games. This game added a cash shop to the game while I was playing my "sub game". I also was peeved by that and it became a factor too for the final exit. My exit was abrupt and I didn't give away anything like I would normally when leaving a game. This time I thought it would only be a final "gank" if I did give anyone that loot so, I took it with me to the final gravestone I selected, my own.

 

  SEANMCAD

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 5327

7/03/14 11:39:44 AM#32
Originally posted by Thane

just curious, since everyone is refering to "SKYRIM" and not "ELDER SCROLLS" here...

 

does darkfall have dragons? shouts?

because quite franky, that's what SKYRIM was about.

yes...unlike like ESO (I assume) Darkfall has Dragons.

Having said that I think the game is more like Morrowind then Syrim but only because of the graphic art style is more Morrowind like.

Correlation does not imply causation

  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2400

7/03/14 12:03:55 PM#33
Originally posted by greenreen

Chiming in here because I recently left the game after playing since about 4/4 so close to 3 mos.

The thing that broke this camel's back was the mentioning of removal of or reduction of space which is considered a safe zone and free from player attack.

A preface.

I've played every sort of PVP mmo you can imagine and even in WOW I chose an RP/PVP server along with in Rift. When given the choice I always took the harder route to level to challenge myself in even a game which offers easier paths because I find PVP more engaging than mob fighting. So, before you get the impression that I'm just too soft or too carebear for this game, let's squash that response at the core.

The game has issues which I've been trying to overlook but I now took to heart and with all combined and forming a larger picture I've decided to discontinue my subscription to the game.

#1

The time to kill is entirely too low. People can attack from behind for increased damage. Because of this, the traditional way you will be met for a battle is from behind and while you are fighting mobs. The person will take 2 hits or more before you are aware that you are being attacked by a player since you can't see behind you. There is no rearview camera. You can circle constantly to try to spot someone near you or jump back and forth but you only end up turning your back to a mob or multiples of them again, taking more damage from a source.

Imagine that the best amount of health you can have is about 450. People regularly attack you for 70+ damage without critting and I was wearing the second best level of armor below heavy - primalist robes. So, I was not built as a glass cannon and was not poofy. There are a maximum of about 6 hits you can take then without reacting properly - how fast do 6 hits happen, that's how long fights can last. In that moment you can't feign death to drop mob aggro, you will be fighting however many mobs are on you and this player.

 

#2

Gear is mandatory. If you refuse to wear gear to reduce the amount of gear you lose, the game punishes you on your character sheet by making 100% of the damage you take be crit damage. Every attack on you by mob or player is always a crit. You can successfully fight some mobs if you can dodge their attacks but you will not win many fights taking 100% crit damage from other players - see TTK above.

 

#3

There is no honor in this game. Nothing is hardcore about attacking someone from behind who is fighting mobs. Nothing is fair about a 100k player destroying a 10k player and returning 1/2 hour later to try to do it again as they rotate through the mob spawns - no glory in these wins. The risk is all on the player trying to eek out an existence and none is on the person attacking people at mob spawns carrying nothing but their gear. The player fighting mobs risks their mob loot AND their gear.

The solution to the ganking problem is always listed as "Join a clan" which then becomes "Why do ppl zerg so much, gawd you cowards" in the complaint when you were attacked. Make up my mind - should I roll with 3 at all times or should I solo because either way I'm wrong. And if I roll with 3 and you bring 5, next you will tell me that I should have rolled with 5 or joined a "better" clan. You see, the problem is never the game, or the players, or the mechanics in place - it's always YOU who is wrong, YOU who are the carebear, YOU who can't just take it like a man. 

I have finally taken it upon myself to disagree that it's me alone and I chose to share blame with a rotten community of some genuine psychopaths who see every person they kill as a notch on their fantasy path as a precursor to acting out their mental illness on real life people. I'm serious, I really found some people in that game from discussion who truly lacked empathy. Even the game developers chose to highlight one of them as a "Community Streamer" who not only spends their entire time camping newbies and rotating the mob spawns, they cast it on Twitch. If you do cast the game on Twitch to advertise it - this person will openly snipe you. This mentality is not helping the game and I can't blame that on the developers but if that's what they choose to advertise it does hold them accountable as accepting of this sort of behavior when they promote it by word or title. 

It's a surreal experience to play Darkfall, I don't expect to ever return to it. Many of the players there admitted to being quite young - like 11 years old young. It was impossible to have any intelligent discussion with someone who calls people jew faggot and hasn't even started puberty telling you that all people who don't make 120k a year are losers.

As a side note - If you know me from the forums otherwise I only play sub games. This game added a cash shop to the game while I was playing my "sub game". I also was peeved by that and it became a factor too for the final exit. My exit was abrupt and I didn't give away anything like I would normally when leaving a game. This time I thought it would only be a final "gank" if I did give anyone that loot so, I took it with me to the final gravestone I selected, my own.

 

You sound like you never tried to get better.  Did you practice fighting to learn to defend yourself?  For me I love the fact that my stuff can be taken away.  Never again will I play an MMO that does not have full loot.  I'm a PVE'er at heart but where is the fun in killing stuff with no risk.  It is just so boring.  With Darkfall succeeding by placing your hard earned winnings in the bank is a nice feeling of elation.  A high.  Of course when you get killed you feel that sting and are at the low.  I will take this every fricken time over a game where it is a flat line experience with zero risk.

So PVE'ing in Darkfall needs to be done differently:

a) Don't farm as long at a time before banking.  The golden rule is bank when, if you were to be killed, it would hurt.  Sure that may seem tedious, but you greatly increase your odds of keeping that loot.

b) Use good head phones and crank up the sound.  I also recommend a sound card.  I got a sound card for the first time solely for Darkfall.  It was like a blind man seeing for the first time.  I can hear everything for a far ways out.  So if your farming, pay attention to the sounds and if anything sounds out of the ordinary, get ready for a fight or run, or hide. 

c) Learn some of the more traveled routes and avoid the mob spawns at those routes.  Maybe there is the same spawn farther out.

d)  If you get knocked down, get back up.  There have been many times that I have died and lost shit.  A lot of those times I dusted myself off, regeared and went back out.  Some of those times I ended up getting more than what I had, with a lucky string of chaos chests, etc.

You also mention the community.  Personally, I think the ingame community is one of the best out there.  Sure you have some asshats that go out of their way to grief you.  Others are just looking for a fight and/or are willing to help.  It's also a mature community with the majority between 20-40.  So, your experience with 11 year old kids doesn't match mine. 

Also the cash shop is just for name changes, respecs and fireworks.  Get a grip.  I also will only pay a sub and this type of cash shop is acceptable to me.  Actually I'm happy that AV is actually making some extra money, of which I rewarded with a purchase in the cash shop.

Sounds like you had a frustrating experience, but I wonder how much you tried to adapt and change.  Darkfall is not for everyone though but good luck trying to find a game that will illicit as much emotion when playing.

  SEANMCAD

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7/03/14 12:09:18 PM#34

people should not confuse 'is Darkfall a bad game' with 'it is more like Elder Scrolls then ESO is?' which is the key question here.

Be careful convincing people that Darkfall is a bad game AND its like ES because then that would make ES a bad game.

 

I suggest focus..

 

Correlation does not imply causation

  Reklaw

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The adult I am takes care of most things real life. However my inner-child is a GAMER!!

7/03/14 12:14:46 PM#35

Personaly I feel that ESO is what a ES MMORPG is able to be however Darkfall seems to be and have it's feature's the way many complainers about ESO would have liked ESO to be.

So OP I can fully understand your view point.

And would perhaps be more into Darkfall then ESO if I would still have been in my 20's. But as I grew older I tend to have my MMORPG to be my relaxe game. I can solo if I want, can group if I want. Love exploring and finding resources. I'll take my time. This is not to say people equal to my age (42) might feel different but when I read many complaints I can relate to them as I know I thought the same way in my 20's. For some age might not make any difference, so please take it as my personal opinion, but when I reflect back I see I have changed in regards to how I look at games and how I play them.

Then there are those who wanted just a co-op game, those won't touch Darkfal nor Elder Scrolls Onlinel, most likely they liked the PVE aspect of ES games since there never has been multiplayer (unless you count a few not so good mods great try's never the less) and get annoyed with the aspect of too many other people around while playing solo or co-op. So both are not a option for them.

 

 

  Uzik

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Joined: 2/12/04
Posts: 284

7/03/14 12:18:26 PM#36

The future for Darkfall looks bright.

The game is more polished than it has ever been, the developers are more responsive than they have ever been, all the game systems are finally coming together well, and the community is really active.

 

No other MMO on the market can boast:

-Full loot

-Player driven politics

-Fast paced, 100% manually aimed combat

-Boat combat

-Player driven economics and crafting

-Engaging PvE

-Complete character skill/stat/weapon customization

-No instances

 

 

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  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2400

7/03/14 12:27:05 PM#37
Originally posted by Uzik

The future for Darkfall looks bright.

The game is more polished than it has ever been, the developers are more responsive than they have ever been, all the game systems are finally coming together well, and the community is really active.

 

No other MMO on the market can boast:

-Full loot

-Player driven politics

-Fast paced, 100% manually aimed combat

-Boat combat

-Player driven economics and crafting

-Engaging PvE

-Complete character skill/stat/weapon customization

-No instances

 

 

You forgot player built cites/hamlets, sieges, housing (albeit lottery based).

  greenreen

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Joined: 11/19/12
Posts: 1500

7/03/14 12:48:40 PM#38
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by greenreen
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You sound like you never tried to get better.  Did you practice fighting to learn to defend yourself?  For me I love the fact that my stuff can be taken away.  Never again will I play an MMO that does not have full loot.  I'm a PVE'er at heart but where is the fun in killing stuff with no risk.  It is just so boring.  With Darkfall succeeding by placing your hard earned winnings in the bank is a nice feeling of elation.  A high.  Of course when you get killed you feel that sting and are at the low.  I will take this every fricken time over a game where it is a flat line experience with zero risk.

So PVE'ing in Darkfall needs to be done differently:

a) Don't farm as long at a time before banking.  The golden rule is bank when, if you were to be killed, it would hurt.  Sure that may seem tedious, but you greatly increase your odds of keeping that loot.

b) Use good head phones and crank up the sound.  I also recommend a sound card.  I got a sound card for the first time solely for Darkfall.  It was like a blind man seeing for the first time.  I can hear everything for a far ways out.  So if your farming, pay attention to the sounds and if anything sounds out of the ordinary, get ready for a fight or run, or hide. 

c) Learn some of the more traveled routes and avoid the mob spawns at those routes.  Maybe there is the same spawn farther out.

d)  If you get knocked down, get back up.  There have been many times that I have died and lost shit.  A lot of those times I dusted myself off, regeared and went back out.  Some of those times I ended up getting more than what I had, with a lucky string of chaos chests, etc.

You also mention the community.  Personally, I think the ingame community is one of the best out there.  Sure you have some asshats that go out of their way to grief you.  Others are just looking for a fight and/or are willing to help.  It's also a mature community with the majority between 20-40.  So, your experience with 11 year old kids doesn't match mine. 

Also the cash shop is just for name changes, respecs and fireworks.  Get a grip.  I also will only pay a sub and this type of cash shop is acceptable to me.  Actually I'm happy that AV is actually making some extra money, of which I rewarded with a purchase in the cash shop.

Sounds like you had a frustrating experience, but I wonder how much you tried to adapt and change.  Darkfall is not for everyone though but good luck trying to find a game that will illicit as much emotion when playing.

See - exactly as I stated. You are again blaming the player.

I banked within every 30minutes or if I became spooked by something. I also used strongboxes to store loot in case I was attacked. I used my food buffs especially to alert me that I should be banking if I was too engaged in the loot drops. There do seem to be times when you get more drops like spice so you want to stick around but I had timers going to be sure I didn't deviate.

This attacking on mob spawns has become out of control. Here's an example. I ran for about a week at mob spawns people don't go to all over the map. And I didn't get killed once because I wasn't in places where people wanted to kill people for materials. The map is large, make no mistake that I knew how to get around and survive. I never used a mount and I used crouch. I was very aware of what was around me and I would pause and hide if needed while roaming. If anyone knew how to survive, it was this little piggy - I did afteralll complete the 300 tile feat so I was all over the map. I didn't stay in the hotly contested mob spawns at length and I didn't play stupid.

 

Now, 2 of the most recent examples after that week of peace playing the way I liked.

I went to a mob spawn for ghouls, within 15 minutes I was attacked and killed. I returned to the place because it was close to my bind and the person had dry looted me except for a few weapons. I then stood in front of them naked so that they couldn't hit the mobs because they had to target me. That ran them off because after they killed me naked, they weren't there when I returned. Then I picked up a strongbox. Took it with me and placed it, returning to fighting mobs. I "banked in my strongbox" and within 5 minutes a new player shows up and absolutely destroyed me, this was no challenge for them. As they are about to deal the death blow, they say in local, I only want the lye, I'll leave the rest. They held to their word and when I returned my gear was there. I took my gear and my strongbox loot and had amassed a total of less than 30 minutes of fighting possible. Ok, I lost oneset of gear and a strongbox but I gained about 15 lye and 5 spices. Not the greatest haul and not enough to replace my gear but not a total loss.

So, I go over toward Raven standards to see if my build is now good enough to take them on. I could attack them better but I still took way too much damage from them to sustain. In the middle of porting home while having no loot on me other than my gear. Three players surround me. One begins to attack and I knew that was that. Another death.

Now, I decide to go over to centaurs instead. Well, they aren't anywhere near my bind so I travel all the way across the map  to scope them out. Enter the spawn - no one there. Start fighting and did no looting, they were aggro'd to me like crazy. I was fighting at least 3 at a time, dodging their arrows and evading out of the ones who tried to close in melee. I had corpses lining the walls and the spawns weren't stopping from popping. So I tried to take a breather under wall of righteous force which would stop the mobs from hitting me unless they entered the bubble. I literally sit down after passing transfers to speed this up and a player enters the WORF bubble, so now I have to wait for the animation to stop for sitting and the one to finish for standing while being attacked. I have looted a total of NOTHING at this point and I'm already being jumped. We fight for a bit but once the bubble ends, all that mob aggro is back on me. I die. The player attacking me then gets all my mob aggro and has to run away to drop it. They almost died from the mobs. I was able to rez because the timer was reached before they could get back to gank me because of all the mobs around. When I rezzed I moved about 4 feet and tried to use bandage during the walk - sniped by the boss mob in the area. Then the person came back who had almost died to the mobs and found me right there with that single mob and finished the gank. 

That moment I questioned why in the fuck I was still playing the game. It's not just that people are camping mob spawns for materials, many are doing it for the genuine dry loot experience. I lost 3 sets of gear and what did I get out of that. I also would have to risk taking my scraper out again to make another strongbox. It's all risk and little reward for someone fighting mobs for feats or materials. As long as you have to constantly make new gear, you will always be at deficit.

So what's the alternative to going to mob spawns for materials, do it at 5 am when ppl are asleep or go into the safe zone and get it from harvesting which is soon to be nerfed. I don't need a crystal ball to know what life will be like if safe zones are reduced or completely removed - not one at all.

  Gdemami

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Joined: 9/23/08
Posts: 7312

7/03/14 1:02:17 PM#39


Originally posted by greenreen

See - exactly as I stated. You are again blaming the player.

You would love EVE.

That is why I say that there is nothing even remotely close to EVE Online, every other game is just so incredibly shallow when compared to.

  eHug

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Joined: 1/30/12
Posts: 214

7/03/14 1:20:29 PM#40

Darkfall is not really a PVP arena type of game anymore. These days the games focus is on active PVE grinding - or at least ganking players that are PVE grinding. All the semi afk activities that people could use to have a pvp centric game have been nerfed to crap. Gear has been made more important, too.

That being said I still think that a full loot title with a heavy pve grind for basic gear is like the dumbest idea ever.

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