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  solochoowookie

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Joined: 1/25/13
Posts: 35

 
OP  6/17/14 9:53:35 AM#1

After some recent launches, and beta experiences I have resigned myself to CU being the only game coming down the line I am remotely excited about.

ESO, was terrible. Just not good at all. Wildstar is a quest hub forced march broken up by PVP doggy pile and spam your AOE. EQ Landmark has been less than interesting, and the performance issues I have had were addressed by 'I shit you not' the same kind of service engagement SOE had in EQ/EQII...

Black Desert looks pretty, but clearly North America is a aftermarket for them, and I am not saying it shouldn't be, but it does make me hesitant to be more than mildly interested in the game.

So, no pressure CU....you're our only hope.

 

 

  arcundo

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/03/06
Posts: 21

6/18/14 3:17:43 AM#2

Nice to see a post here, it is not so often [understatement].  Nobody has replied to my PvP RvR and guilds from 4th of June.  :-\

Feel free to elaborate a bit more on why you have that opinion about TESO... :-)

CU seems to me like a game that have many of the right ideas for a MMORPG. (All PvP and only craftable items is the most exciting ones). However I have followed games prelaunch with the great ideas for taking the MMO genre forward. AoC and Mortal Online being the most comparable ones.  While AoC actually followed up on many of those while Gaute Godager was still in charge, Mortal Online lacked in the implementation of the ideas. So the biggest concern now is the bugdet/manpower I guess.  How can we know if the ideas can be transformed into great gameplay (especially combat as the most crucial part)?  How can CU with limited budget take a different road than for instance Mortal Online?

So CU is the only one? What about Titan?

 

  Utinni

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Joined: 7/13/13
Posts: 328

6/18/14 3:42:46 AM#3
The Repopulation is our only hope.
  meddyck

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Joined: 1/18/08
Posts: 1130

6/18/14 9:01:27 AM#4
Originally posted by arcundo

Nice to see a post here, it is not so often [understatement].  Nobody has replied to my PvP RvR and guilds from 4th of June.  :-\

Feel free to elaborate a bit more on why you have that opinion about TESO... :-)

CU seems to me like a game that have many of the right ideas for a MMORPG. (All PvP and only craftable items is the most exciting ones). However I have followed games prelaunch with the great ideas for taking the MMO genre forward. AoC and Mortal Online being the most comparable ones.  While AoC actually followed up on many of those while Gaute Godager was still in charge, Mortal Online lacked in the implementation of the ideas. So the biggest concern now is the bugdet/manpower I guess.  How can we know if the ideas can be transformed into great gameplay (especially combat as the most crucial part)?  How can CU with limited budget take a different road than for instance Mortal Online?

So CU is the only one? What about Titan?

I just replied to your other post. I guess the main reason to be confident that CSE can pull off CU with their budget ($5.6 million and climbing) is that Mark Jacobs made DAOC with a smaller budget than that back in the early '00s and that game had 3 large PvE areas in addition to its RvR. CU however does not have separate PvE areas for each realm since it is an RvR only game, so there is less that needs to be done with a larger amount of funding. Turning the ideas behind the game into gameplay is the big challenge. How well CSE is able to do that should become clearer after the BSC Days presentations and the first few test stages.

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  arcundo

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Joined: 12/03/06
Posts: 21

6/19/14 6:08:49 AM#5

Thanks for both replies!

Yes that is great arguement! I guess one can save a lot of development resources by not having to design a lot of zones with all ncps and quests and quality assurance that comes with that. But crafting have to be even better than other games MMOs due to the lack of pve and loot.

Browsed the web for WoW's initial budget and i found $45 million one place another said either 65 or 85. Bioware's Star Wars had $100 million, some page stated.  The Rift had $50 million I read at the Rift forums.  I could not find out the budget for more comparable titles like AoC and Mortal Online.  So to pull if off at $5,6 CSE have to be really good, even without the PvE.

  ReallyNow10

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Joined: 8/11/10
Posts: 1593

Don't give us stories. Give us worlds and we will make our own stories.

6/24/14 12:16:02 PM#6
Never been a big PVP fan, but if this type of game dispenses with the idiotic quest hub design found in recent PVE MMO's, I might choose this game as the lesser of evils.  Maybe try to change my views on PVP.
  Keatlorien

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/15/14
Posts: 33

6/24/14 12:18:29 PM#7
Yes, anything is better than another quest hub.
  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7009

6/24/14 12:23:28 PM#8
ESO gave me hope for CU. I'm looking forward to it now. If it wasn't for ESO and Cyrodill I couldn't see a AvAvA only game working. I have high hopes for CU, it's going to take a lot to top Cyrodiil though 
  will75

Novice Member

Joined: 10/16/06
Posts: 266

6/25/14 5:20:27 AM#9
heh, it doesn't take much to top INSTANCED RVR....
  Sephros

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/22/11
Posts: 382

6/25/14 6:51:28 AM#10
Why get excited for games anymore? Everything that has come out is crap and everything planned so far is crap. Mmo's are dead.

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  Betaguy

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Joined: 12/31/04
Posts: 2565

Some folks are like Slinkies, totally useless but great fun to watch when pushed down stairs

6/25/14 6:53:55 AM#11
Originally posted by Utinni
The Repopulation is our only hope.

I hope so as well...

  ReallyNow10

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Joined: 8/11/10
Posts: 1593

Don't give us stories. Give us worlds and we will make our own stories.

6/25/14 1:18:20 PM#12
Originally posted by solochoowookie

After some recent launches, and beta experiences I have resigned myself to CU being the only game coming down the line I am remotely excited about.

ESO, was terrible. Just not good at all. Wildstar is a quest hub forced march broken up by PVP doggy pile and spam your AOE. EQ Landmark has been less than interesting, and the performance issues I have had were addressed by 'I shit you not' the same kind of service engagement SOE had in EQ/EQII...

Black Desert looks pretty, but clearly North America is a aftermarket for them, and I am not saying it shouldn't be, but it does make me hesitant to be more than mildly interested in the game.

So, no pressure CU....you're our only hope.

 

 

OP, you might be right.  I hope you're not.

  Tierless

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 2096

joie de vivre

7/11/14 7:03:09 PM#13

It's not my new hope, it's my last hope.

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  Velonius650

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/07/14
Posts: 13

7/14/14 11:59:52 AM#14
Same here, my last kick at MMOs.  Damn you life always in the way. 
  Addikted

Novice Member

Joined: 8/27/12
Posts: 32

7/15/14 5:55:14 PM#15
Camelot Unchained is the only game i am looking forward to.
  arcundo

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/03/06
Posts: 21

7/16/14 2:09:16 AM#16
noone looking forward to Titan?
  Dakeru

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Joined: 9/21/09
Posts: 883

7/16/14 2:42:04 AM#17

I'm sick of all the games you guys line up as the "next hope" all the time.

 

My first impression of this game were the future players going from game to game, to spam viral adds  in map chat and talking about "their help" on the forums, as if they had done something good.

Then people said they had set up a booth in town to "gather money for our cause" talking about it as if they were collecting donations for charity projects.

 

This is a community I never ever want to mix with.

  Velonius650

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/07/14
Posts: 13

7/16/14 9:31:16 AM#18
Originally posted by Dakeru

I'm sick of all the games you guys line up as the "next hope" all the time.

 

My first impression of this game were the future players going from game to game, to spam viral adds  in map chat and talking about "their help" on the forums, as if they had done something good.

Then people said they had set up a booth in town to "gather money for our cause" talking about it as if they were collecting donations for charity projects.

 

This is a community I never ever want to mix with.

 

Wut?

 

  pein_carbon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/16/14
Posts: 8

7/20/14 7:00:02 PM#19

this game should be good they got one goal and its RvR they are not like eso that try to focus questing and some guild battles with no experience building it. they are not guild wars 2 trying to sell as much as possible even if they lose pretty much every good guilds and quality players leaving the game filled with quantity blobs.

srsly when 13 good guys in tier 1 server to last tier can beat 40 guys then something is very wrong.

sure I would understand if 30 good structured guild would beat 100 because the zone blob is not able to co ordinate the bombs but yh....

 

this game got a purpose it seems to build a good RvR they have done it before so it should be good hopefully they wont bind themselves when they build a good game hopefully they stay pure and just tell e sports when they come to piss off.

 

and all pve players please stay out. this game should stay pure and not go

 

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  Foobarx

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Joined: 3/16/14
Posts: 445

7/20/14 7:13:37 PM#20

I have no hopes... I will believe it when I see it.  Until then... all the talk, all the hype, all the hope... is purely vaporware...

See you all in 2018 when there's actually an open beta coming around the pipe.

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