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General Discussion  » Zenimax needs to add DUELING and ARENAS!

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  Kuanshu

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Joined: 5/19/04
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OP  5/28/14 11:37:00 AM#41

In light of how many issues currently plague ESO and the current patch issues its time to take notice and add somethings which encourage players to actually want to login and play ESO

 

People are not wanting to login and some are cancelling their subscriptions due to many issues currently making gameplay not so fun...so what can Zenimax do about this?

 

I was amazed and impressed that LEAGUE OF LEGENDS is those most played PC game on the market! 

What is it primarily comprised of? PVP BATTLE ARENAS!

 

There it is basically in a nutshell folks!

People don't want a buggy timesink where they are constantly dealing with issues like latency, bots, spammers, etc...People want to login and get right to the action and instead of dealing with BOTs and players they want to fight them!

 

ARENAS!

 

If I was Zenimax I would want to redeem ESO in the eyes of many who have experienced it and moved on; One dissatisfied customer equates to losing alot of potential customers! I know this because I have worked in retail and I have played MMORPGs since The Realm Online.

 

People complain ESO is a PVE multiplayer game with PvP MMORPG aspects yet the megaserver ruins alot of the experience. There are countless threads on these topics and this is a recipe for disaster if Zenimax doesn't do some sort of damage control asap!

 

The PC version of this game isn't really lookin good at this rate, especially considering the new big bold titles releasing in the coming year. Zenimax needs to do something big asap to bring back interest to the game or Wildstar is going to take alot of their subscribers in less then a week. Archeage is coming out after that and its definitely bigger and better then both of em.

 

At this rate I forsee the console version being the last bastion of hope for Zenimax if they don't do something monumental in the coming days...I would say months, but at this rate and the fact timing is everything in this genre; I would say its more like weeks and maybe days at best.

 

Whislt some of ya'll keep replying that ESO doesn't need DUELING nor ARENAS realize this isn't your game and its not going to be much fun once a great majority of the player base jumps ship.

I'm actually interested in seeing ESO become something much more fun and entertaining for everyone involved.

The bottomline for subscriber based game is subscribers! Preach on!

  Dragoncline00

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Joined: 12/06/13
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5/28/14 11:47:41 AM#42
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
An pvp centric mmorpg with no ability to "duel"...either in an instance or the open world? So weak.

And stating the reason "it will kill pvp"? Even worse.

If a duel command would kill off pvp then the game is clearly dying already...such a waste :(

What? PVP centric? I thought ESO was designed more for the PVE content..... maybe i am wrong??

  Foobarx

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5/28/14 11:48:15 AM#43

If TESO was to succeed, it would have done so with what it launched with.  They could add whatever you dreamed up at this point and it still wouldn't change the fact that the boat has already sailed.  Once people move on, they move on... with the exception of WoW in which they return and are reminded why they left and leave again.

 

Arenas and dueling won't save TESO.  Might kill it faster, but it won't save it.

  Miklosan

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Joined: 7/17/08
Posts: 179

5/31/14 7:32:33 AM#44

It is this "IhateWoW"-syndrom showing up again....

 

"Just because a feature is implemented in WoW it must be something bad so therefor it should not be implemented in this game!"

 

Just plain stupid, ofcourse a feature like duelling should be available in a game like Elder Scrolls Online.

It's similar to that other discussion that was a while ago about chatbubbles. Hey, make it optional so that those who wants it can have it turned on and those who don't like it can disable it, okey? -"Nooooooo, go back to WoW you moron bla bla..."

 

Big PvP battles are fun but sometimes it's just as fun with those smaller fights, sometimes even more fun.

Duels, arenas and being able to fight players from other factions in the World and not only in Cyrodill should have been in the game from start. (They should have atleast two server options)

 

This game is beyond help anyway so...

 

  Wrender

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5/31/14 9:19:53 AM#45
As much as I love this game I will have to agree. Dueling would be simply awesome indeed as well as chat bubbles!
  Wrender

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5/31/14 9:21:22 AM#46
Originally posted by Foobarx

If TESO was to succeed, it would have done so with what it launched with.  They could add whatever you dreamed up at this point and it still wouldn't change the fact that the boat has already sailed.  Once people move on, they move on... with the exception of WoW in which they return and are reminded why they left and leave again.

 

Arenas and dueling won't save TESO.  Might kill it faster, but it won't save it.

the only people that are "moving on" or the undesirables that ruin the experience such as Mwah!

  Geebus80

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5/31/14 9:26:29 AM#47

PVP in fantasy games is for 8yo kids, pew pew i got you with my fireball! oh noes that fireball is hella leveled man you gots me!

 

Seriously kids, want pvp go join the army or play some battlefield, wizards and such pvp is just adolescent at best, do you need power over other so badly you ignore how lame you are for feeling 1337 about your fireballs and dragons?

 

I say leave pvp to the head to head games, fantasy games are about story and adventure, not pew pew I throw fireball at you.

  Orious

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Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 542

5/31/14 9:34:58 AM#48

Dueling would be useful, but battlegrounds/arenas is a bad idea. I can't see how players don't understand this. If the game had WoW's subscription numbers it MIGHT be doable, but separating PvP will make Cyrodiil utterly useless. They may get more subs, honestly because most mmo players came from FPS/equal sided "e-sports" games and are casual players - but the whole point of the game would be ruined.

 

Dueling for fun without any rewards.. probably very useful.

Battlegrounds only useful if you want to change the entire pvp game design/render the current mode useless.

 

Granted if they're hurting for cash, they'll probably add both eventually.

  Orious

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5/31/14 9:35:45 AM#49
Originally posted by Geebus80

PVP in fantasy games is for 8yo kids, pew pew i got you with my fireball! oh noes that fireball is hella leveled man you gots me!

 

Seriously kids, want pvp go join the army or play some battlefield, wizards and such pvp is just adolescent at best, do you need power over other so badly you ignore how lame you are for feeling 1337 about your fireballs and dragons?

 

I say leave pvp to the head to head games, fantasy games are about story and adventure, not pew pew I throw fireball at you.

Fireballs and dragons are no different than rocket launcher and tanks.

  SirBalin

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5/31/14 9:38:28 AM#50
This game could have felt really good to me, but clans just mean nothing in pvp in this game.  Enemies don't even know what clan you are in when you kill them...it's to much about factions and not enough about clans.

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  ElRenmazuo

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5/31/14 9:39:19 AM#51
Originally posted by BurntCabbage

people need to stop trying to force other games hand in try to change things..its what makes game diff from each other and unique

dueling..just what this game needs everyone outside of town dueling all day instead of the pvp battle area being full or busy..kinda reminds me of another game?

Putting in arenas wouldnt be forcing other games hand, since elder scrolls series has arenas.  Hell, one of the elder scrolls games is called Arena.

  Kuanshu

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Joined: 5/19/04
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OP  5/31/14 10:10:36 AM#52
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by BurntCabbage

people need to stop trying to force other games hand in try to change things..its what makes game diff from each other and unique

dueling..just what this game needs everyone outside of town dueling all day instead of the pvp battle area being full or busy..kinda reminds me of another game?

Putting in arenas wouldnt be forcing other games hand, since elder scrolls series has arenas.  Hell, one of the elder scrolls games is called Arena.

Ya they could have an arena ingame that has scheduled events during certain ingame hours and it wouldn't be instanced so it wouldn't take away alot of action in Cryodiil and it would be in a Colosseum with places for seating and viewing the event. Players could sign up for the days events and there would be a Colosseum in each alliance area. You could have it Gladiator style where there would be different numbers of contestants and different types of scenerios. This would really add to the game in so many ways.

 

People really lack an imagination these days, sigh.

  Zeymere

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Joined: 3/11/05
Posts: 186

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6/11/14 12:33:47 PM#53
Originally posted by Ehllfhire
They already stated in the may 1st interview there will be no duelling, arenas, or battlegrounds, as all would kill off cyrodil pvp.

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/3v3-pvp-demo-e3-2014/

bcbully- " Straight from E3. 

How do you guys feel about this? No doubt a lot of people requested, but I'm not so sure. If this was implemented today, it wold be a horrible idea. ESO is not balanced around 1 v 1 or even 3 v 3.

I don't know if I want them going down the path of strict balance either. I know a lot of PvE only people will take issue even though there are a lot of pve changes on the way that will effect pvp, increasing physical damage for example. This sword cuts both ways.

At the same time I LOVED WoW arenas. I played thousands of matches and would probably be all in in ESO arenas too. uhg... what do you guys think?"

 

Ehllfhire never say never

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  Zeymere

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Posts: 186

No...
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6/11/14 12:36:01 PM#54
Originally posted by Kuanshu

I responded to the Battleground discussion thread for TESO with this post and also wanted to post it here as I consider this to be a very important topic of discussion and something Zenimax needs to seriously consider in the coming days. Adding these 2 features to the game will help Zenimax and players improve PvP much faster, more effectively, and much more efficiently then simply addressing player feedback in Cryodiil which is a highly contested area that is either overrun and out of balance in favor of a particular alliance and/or players simply are too overwhelmed and intimidated by it. This is a very important endgame feature of TESO that really needs to be much more thoroughly tested then it was during the actual testing phases.

Zenimax needs to add DUELING and ARENAS first and foremost! Why do you ask? Well..

Templates need to be thoroughly tested and balanced so there are more then a few to several optimal templates so as to add the air of anticipation and excitement as there will be more mystery and suspense to every encounter as it should be in large scale battles or even small skirmishes. This also improves player interest in TESO as there are more viable options for players concerning class/template choices and the evolution of their character and the game in general.

DUELING allows players to engage each other safely within the confines of their own realm/alliance so players can learn, adapt, and help improve class/template balance

ARENAS are also very important as they allow players to fight 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 5 vs 5, Keep defense vs Keep siege, etc...so small group encounters are optimized as any PUG ZERG can be taken out by an organized ZERG comprised of small but very effective, cohesive groups working together and assisting the overall ZERG

DUELING AND ARENAS allow players to concentrate on class/template balance for overall PvP balance in Cryodiil campaigns. This part of the game needs to be addressed and optimized a long while before Battlegrounds is even remotely considered. This discussion is wayyyyyy to early in the game.

This game is headed to console by the end of this year so there is another good reason to hold off on this debate and allow the players/developers to work together in the coming days so everyone can enjoy a much more polished, balanced, and optimal release of the console version of The Elder Scrolls Online!

Seems you may be just getting your wish ;)

 

Zeymere

  Kuanshu

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Joined: 5/19/04
Posts: 277

 
OP  6/13/14 12:33:14 PM#55

Zenimax wants to salvage the game.

How do you salvage a dying game with a big name?

You bring facets of the successful franchise to the game ASAP!

 

ARENAS! 

  bobdole1979

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6/15/14 9:40:18 AM#56
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by BurntCabbage

people need to stop trying to force other games hand in try to change things..its what makes game diff from each other and unique

dueling..just what this game needs everyone outside of town dueling all day instead of the pvp battle area being full or busy..kinda reminds me of another game?

Putting in arenas wouldnt be forcing other games hand, since elder scrolls series has arenas.  Hell, one of the elder scrolls games is called Arena.

yeah its weird 

Honestly I don't think ESO should add arenas i think it would hurt the world PVP

 

BUT

 

out of all the MMOs out there Elder Scrolls is the only one with a legitmate lore reason to have it in game.  I mean I loved fighting in the arean in Oblivion.  

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