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  reeereee

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5/10/14 12:14:37 PM#41
Originally posted by summitus
Originally posted by fivoroth
No game is worth $150. So for the love of god, wait. 150 is too much. Anyone who tells you otherwise is crazy. Also why would you want to play in alpha. All your progress will be wiped out and then at launch you will have to repeat the same content.

One things for sure , there is whole lot of crazy people running around in Archeage .. including me ! :p

And this... ladies and gentlemen, is why the f2p model works.  Reminds me how shocked the EQN:L devs looked about how many people would actually pay for alpha.

  Deathsmind

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5/10/14 12:28:53 PM#42

The game is worth however you are willing to spend. I bet they could have put a higher price tag on it and still gotten most of the players. It just depends on if its worth it to you.

Do you have the cash, are you going to be hurting if you spend it, have you watched the Alpha streams and said this is a game you can play for months at least, do you think the value of everything you get worth the price tag, Can you wait until the beta comes out for the cheaper price tag. etc. These are all questions you should ask yourself.

  Herzy

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5/10/14 1:04:46 PM#43
Originally posted by reeereee
Originally posted by summitus
Originally posted by fivoroth
No game is worth $150. So for the love of god, wait. 150 is too much. Anyone who tells you otherwise is crazy. Also why would you want to play in alpha. All your progress will be wiped out and then at launch you will have to repeat the same content.

One things for sure , there is whole lot of crazy people running around in Archeage .. including me ! :p

And this... ladies and gentlemen, is why the f2p model works.  Reminds me how shocked the EQN:L devs looked about how many people would actually pay for alpha.

I think it really needs to sink in for many that F2P doesn't mean the game is being run by a charitable organization. It is free to try, and free to play to a certain extent but it needs to make money somehow. 

The supporters are the ones keeping these games running.

  azzamasin

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5/10/14 1:14:16 PM#44
Originally posted by SlyLoK
Not worth $150. Not worth even $50 honestly. It feels like a typical f2p asian game with big time syncs to hide shallow features.

Subjective opinion is not the same as hard truths.

 

 

That being said, if you've got the money then it is worth it.  Coming from someone who abhors Asian styled games (check my post history) ArcheAge really delivers on old school concepts and open world freedom that has been missing from this genre for far to damn long.

 

At no point in the past week have I felt like I was grinding, because I don't push myself to do the same thing over and over and over.  working on my tradeskills, building up my supply of materials and doing trade runs on top of exploring a seamless world.  Not something I would call shallow features.  This game has more content then your average WoW clone and the majority of that content is suited toward the longevity of the game not the developer created stuff that gets mind numbingly repetitive.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  azzamasin

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5/10/14 1:18:51 PM#45
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
No game is worth MORE than a car payment.

Where can I get a car for $150 a month?  I pay $400 for an average family SUV.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  DamonVile

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5/10/14 1:20:19 PM#46
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
No game is worth MORE than a car payment.

Where can I get a car for $150 a month?  I pay $400 for an average family SUV.

It might also explain why it's such a big deal to spend that much on a game for some, and others it's no big deal ;)

There's a saying about evolution and why we have two eyes and two ears but only one mouth. Clearly it didn't see the internet coming or it never would have given us ten fingers to type with.

  reeereee

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5/10/14 1:46:04 PM#47
Originally posted by Herzy
Originally posted by reeereee
Originally posted by summitus
Originally posted by fivoroth
No game is worth $150. So for the love of god, wait. 150 is too much. Anyone who tells you otherwise is crazy. Also why would you want to play in alpha. All your progress will be wiped out and then at launch you will have to repeat the same content.

One things for sure , there is whole lot of crazy people running around in Archeage .. including me ! :p

And this... ladies and gentlemen, is why the f2p model works.  Reminds me how shocked the EQN:L devs looked about how many people would actually pay for alpha.

I think it really needs to sink in for many that F2P doesn't mean the game is being run by a charitable organization. It is free to try, and free to play to a certain extent but it needs to make money somehow. 

The supporters are the ones keeping these games running.

It's an interesting dynamic, isn't it though.  If the supporters aren't there the game makes no money and closes, but if the free players are gone everyone talks about how the game is dieing and starts making plans to move on to a new mmo.  The f2p model really only works well with both.

 

Also you are very incorrect, some games really are f2p.  Just because the flagship western f2p mmo SWTOR tries to screw the free players at every opportunity does not mean that is the only model.  I haven't spent a dime on Tera in over a year and feel almost no negative in game effects from being a free player.  Neither game is running a charity they've just chosen very different methods for how to extract those profits.

  ArcheAge2014

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Joined: 4/29/14
Posts: 72

5/10/14 2:04:49 PM#48
Originally posted by fhnw1988

its not worth it. No game in this world is 150 Dollars worth- no matter the bundle.

You will burn yourself and leave the game before it even starts. And by the way, the game is just slightly better then the average asian mmo.

If you enjoyed first time Linage 2 you wont be happy with AA because back then Lineage 2 was with its time- where AA is 10y behind now. 

in the end its up to you- but do yourself a favor and do not buy it. Remember the game will go F2P and isnt doing well in other countries either.

 

 Russian archeage is making $10 million usd per month in profit.

  Nemesis7884

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Posts: 490

5/10/14 2:09:23 PM#49

i constantly hear things about trion and xl being in financial distress...seems to me they want to cash in quickly...and 150 is just unreasonably high despite what the fanboys will tell you how much of a value this is...this alpha/beta access buying has just gotten out of hand - especially for a free to play game...

I'd recommend you to wait a bit to see if the game will get any ground before you start spending money...

  Moar61

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Joined: 3/24/14
Posts: 217

5/10/14 2:09:48 PM#50
Considering that comes with a few months subscription it's a fairly good deal. 150 looks like a lot and it is for a game up front, but when it comes to mmo's you're gonna pay that one way or another.
  Ramanadjinn

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5/10/14 2:15:49 PM#51

Don't take anyone's opinion on a game you can try yourself for free and see if you like it or not.

Everything everyone in this thread said can be made irrelevant if you just go try it yourself.

I have the entire summer off with nothing to do so for me $150 is a fair investment.

So some other guy has 4 friends who all regret buying it.  I have 2 friends I play with that love it.  None of that matters when it comes to you, your money, and your personal tastes.

  Rhoklaw

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5/10/14 6:23:19 PM#52
Originally posted by Nemesis7884

i constantly hear things about trion and xl being in financial distress...seems to me they want to cash in quickly...and 150 is just unreasonably high despite what the fanboys will tell you how much of a value this is...this alpha/beta access buying has just gotten out of hand - especially for a free to play game...

I'd recommend you to wait a bit to see if the game will get any ground before you start spending money...

What are you talking about? Get what ground? The game launched over 2 years ago in Korea, is launching in Russia and will be starting beta in NA / EU shortly. I started playing 10 days ago and I spend a lot of time at one of the character starting points cause theres a good area to mine ore there. You know what I see while I'm mining ore? New toons being created constantly for almost 2 weeks straight. Nonstop as in at least 1 new character every 2-3 minutes. Thats just 1 of 4 starting areas, so if you think people aren't interested in this game, you are sorely mistaken. ArcheAge is a monster MMO and I don't think Trion realizes how much of a gold mine they got a hold of by getting the rights to this game.

  MMOGamer71

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5/11/14 12:42:43 AM#53
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
No game is worth MORE than a car payment.

Where can I get a car for $150 a month?  I pay $400 for an average family SUV.

I can think of about 6 items off the top of my head that effect ones car payment, none of which effect a games price, but that's for a different thread.

  Nemesis7884

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5/11/14 1:04:01 AM#54
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Nemesis7884

i constantly hear things about trion and xl being in financial distress...seems to me they want to cash in quickly...and 150 is just unreasonably high despite what the fanboys will tell you how much of a value this is...this alpha/beta access buying has just gotten out of hand - especially for a free to play game...

I'd recommend you to wait a bit to see if the game will get any ground before you start spending money...

What are you talking about? Get what ground? The game launched over 2 years ago in Korea, is launching in Russia and will be starting beta in NA / EU shortly. I started playing 10 days ago and I spend a lot of time at one of the character starting points cause theres a good area to mine ore there. You know what I see while I'm mining ore? New toons being created constantly for almost 2 weeks straight. Nonstop as in at least 1 new character every 2-3 minutes. Thats just 1 of 4 starting areas, so if you think people aren't interested in this game, you are sorely mistaken. ArcheAge is a monster MMO and I don't think Trion realizes how much of a gold mine they got a hold of by getting the rights to this game.

gold mine? the game disappeared from the top list very quickly and is riddled by bots and cheats in russia (besides, russians seem to like any game where you can harrass and gank other people).

And even if the game did fantastic on takatuka island - that doesnt mean squat for the eu/us market. So before pushing money down Trion's throat, i'd rather wait how the reception will be in us/eu. Right now there is a limited amount of players on alpha where the systems work fine. Will they work fine with a massive amount of players? limited land space? hard core gameplay and guild requirement to have fun? potential pay 2 win features? all the bots entering the economy? Will all the streamers that cause the hype still be playing after release 6 months from now or is it just another fotm?

This and the fact that i keep hearing about financial distress at XL is not reassuring. Why did they price their packages that high if not to cash in quickly? Why for example have they sill not introduced the "new" races altough they already announced them 2 years ago? Same goes for all the other continents the game will eventually have (and were also announced 2 years ago).

And the last point - in a game where "building up your personal wealth" is one of the major elements, why would you want to invest all that time in the alpha where all gets deleted again anyway? Do you really want to shedd out 150 bucks just to get to know the game mechanics (which you can do by just watching vids)?

For 150 bucks you can right now buy 5 AAA games to play...and with archeage you will have to pay a monthly sub later on anyway (forget about playing this game for free, it wont work).

AA might be a fantastic game that will be played for a long time - if so, why the rush now? Just ask yourself, how many times in the past in the mmo space have you bought these kind of packages thinking this will be "the thing" and how many times did it pay out?

 

ps: your argument is pretty much nonsense. A) there are only a few thousand people on the alpha server B) they are all concentrated on one server C) in every mmo ever existed in the history of mmo's there have been a lot of new characters being created when the game released

  Rhoklaw

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5/11/14 1:26:09 AM#55
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Nemesis7884

i constantly hear things about trion and xl being in financial distress...seems to me they want to cash in quickly...and 150 is just unreasonably high despite what the fanboys will tell you how much of a value this is...this alpha/beta access buying has just gotten out of hand - especially for a free to play game...

I'd recommend you to wait a bit to see if the game will get any ground before you start spending money...

What are you talking about? Get what ground? The game launched over 2 years ago in Korea, is launching in Russia and will be starting beta in NA / EU shortly. I started playing 10 days ago and I spend a lot of time at one of the character starting points cause theres a good area to mine ore there. You know what I see while I'm mining ore? New toons being created constantly for almost 2 weeks straight. Nonstop as in at least 1 new character every 2-3 minutes. Thats just 1 of 4 starting areas, so if you think people aren't interested in this game, you are sorely mistaken. ArcheAge is a monster MMO and I don't think Trion realizes how much of a gold mine they got a hold of by getting the rights to this game.

gold mine? the game disappeared from the top list very quickly and is riddled by bots and cheats in russia (besides, russians seem to like any game where you can harrass and gank other people).

And even if the game did fantastic on takatuka island - that doesnt mean squat for the eu/us market. So before pushing money down Trion's throat, i'd rather wait how the reception will be in us/eu. Right now there is a limited amount of players on alpha where the systems work fine. Will they work fine with a massive amount of players? limited land space? hard core gameplay and guild requirement to have fun? potential pay 2 win features? all the bots entering the economy? Will all the streamers that cause the hype still be playing after release 6 months from now or is it just another fotm?

This and the fact that i keep hearing about financial distress at XL is not reassuring. Why did they price their packages that high if not to cash in quickly? Why for example have they sill not introduced the "new" races altough they already announced them 2 years ago?

And the last point - in a game where "building up your personal wealth" is one of the major elements, why would you want to invest all that time in the alpha where all gets deleted again anyway? Do you really want to shedd out 150 bucks just to get to know the game mechanics (which you can do by just watching vids)?

For 150 bucks you can right now buy 5 AAA games to play...and with archeage you will have to pay a monthly sub later on anyway (forget about playing this game for free, it wont work).

 

ps: your argument is pretty much nonsense. A) there are only a few thousand people on the alpha server B) they are all concentrated on one server C) in every mmo ever existed in the history of mmo's there have been a lot of new characters being created when the game released

I can tell you right now, there is no P2W. The only thing you are paying for in a subscription is to be able to own land. If you don't care about farming, gathering or crafting, than F2P will work just fine. Where you get P2W from is beyond me, but it doesn't even matter. As for BOTs in the game, guess what, they have an in-game mechanic specifically designed to let players deal with BOTs, aka murder them legally. Is AA hardcore and guild friendly only? To some degree yes, but to be honest, a lone wolf can have as much fun in this game as they choose. What do streamers have to do with hype? This game was launched years ago, videos and information are not new, so what hype are you talking about? It's simply being released in NA / EU after years of people begging for it.

Ok, you see, the fact you point out alpha costs $150 like every other idiot troll is enough for me to just ignore the rest of your post. The $150 consists of 3 months of subscription ( $45 ), about $70-80 cash shop money and a few in-game trinkets and title. So that brings alpha access down to about $35. Seriously man, you and all your narrow minded friends need to stop calling it $150 alpha access. By the way, AAA games don't cost $30, try more like $50-60 and thats for the basic edition. How much was ESO's cash grab pay wall CE? $80?

I'm not even arguing cause everything I've said is true. You're the one making shit up.

  Nemesis7884

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Joined: 4/21/10
Posts: 490

5/11/14 1:34:09 AM#56
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Nemesis7884

i constantly hear things about trion and xl being in financial distress...seems to me they want to cash in quickly...and 150 is just unreasonably high despite what the fanboys will tell you how much of a value this is...this alpha/beta access buying has just gotten out of hand - especially for a free to play game...

I'd recommend you to wait a bit to see if the game will get any ground before you start spending money...

What are you talking about? Get what ground? The game launched over 2 years ago in Korea, is launching in Russia and will be starting beta in NA / EU shortly. I started playing 10 days ago and I spend a lot of time at one of the character starting points cause theres a good area to mine ore there. You know what I see while I'm mining ore? New toons being created constantly for almost 2 weeks straight. Nonstop as in at least 1 new character every 2-3 minutes. Thats just 1 of 4 starting areas, so if you think people aren't interested in this game, you are sorely mistaken. ArcheAge is a monster MMO and I don't think Trion realizes how much of a gold mine they got a hold of by getting the rights to this game.

gold mine? the game disappeared from the top list very quickly and is riddled by bots and cheats in russia (besides, russians seem to like any game where you can harrass and gank other people).

And even if the game did fantastic on takatuka island - that doesnt mean squat for the eu/us market. So before pushing money down Trion's throat, i'd rather wait how the reception will be in us/eu. Right now there is a limited amount of players on alpha where the systems work fine. Will they work fine with a massive amount of players? limited land space? hard core gameplay and guild requirement to have fun? potential pay 2 win features? all the bots entering the economy? Will all the streamers that cause the hype still be playing after release 6 months from now or is it just another fotm?

This and the fact that i keep hearing about financial distress at XL is not reassuring. Why did they price their packages that high if not to cash in quickly? Why for example have they sill not introduced the "new" races altough they already announced them 2 years ago?

And the last point - in a game where "building up your personal wealth" is one of the major elements, why would you want to invest all that time in the alpha where all gets deleted again anyway? Do you really want to shedd out 150 bucks just to get to know the game mechanics (which you can do by just watching vids)?

For 150 bucks you can right now buy 5 AAA games to play...and with archeage you will have to pay a monthly sub later on anyway (forget about playing this game for free, it wont work).

 

ps: your argument is pretty much nonsense. A) there are only a few thousand people on the alpha server B) they are all concentrated on one server C) in every mmo ever existed in the history of mmo's there have been a lot of new characters being created when the game released

I can tell you right now, there is no P2W. The only thing you are paying for in a subscription is to be able to own land. If you don't care about farming, gathering or crafting, than F2P will work just fine. Where you get P2W from is beyond me, but it doesn't even matter. As for BOTs in the game, guess what, they have an in-game mechanic specifically designed to let players deal with BOTs, aka murder them legally. Is AA hardcore and guild friendly only? To some degree yes, but to be honest, a lone wolf can have as much fun in this game as they choose. What do streamers have to do with hype? This game was launched years ago, videos and information are not new, so what hype are you talking about? It's simply being released in NA / EU after years of people begging for it.

Ok, you see, the fact you point out alpha costs $150 like every other idiot troll is enough for me to just ignore the rest of your post. The $150 consists of 3 months of subscription ( $45 ), about $70-80 cash shop money and a few in-game trinkets and title. So that brings alpha access down to about $35. Seriously man, you and all your narrow minded friends need to stop calling it $150 alpha access. By the way, AAA games don't cost $30, try more like $50-60 and thats for the basic edition. How much was ESO's cash grab pay wall CE? $80?

I'm not even arguing cause everything I've said is true. You're the one making shit up.

owning land and labour points.

sorry but is this some kind of joke? if youre not interested in farming, gathering or crafting free to play is fine? really?

why in gods name would anyone want to play the game without these features? all that is left than is an asian themepark with an outdated combat system, quest system and ui...lol aa without crafting and farming HAHAHAHA

  Rhoklaw

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5/11/14 2:22:49 AM#57
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Originally posted by Nemesis7884

i constantly hear things about trion and xl being in financial distress...seems to me they want to cash in quickly...and 150 is just unreasonably high despite what the fanboys will tell you how much of a value this is...this alpha/beta access buying has just gotten out of hand - especially for a free to play game...

I'd recommend you to wait a bit to see if the game will get any ground before you start spending money...

What are you talking about? Get what ground? The game launched over 2 years ago in Korea, is launching in Russia and will be starting beta in NA / EU shortly. I started playing 10 days ago and I spend a lot of time at one of the character starting points cause theres a good area to mine ore there. You know what I see while I'm mining ore? New toons being created constantly for almost 2 weeks straight. Nonstop as in at least 1 new character every 2-3 minutes. Thats just 1 of 4 starting areas, so if you think people aren't interested in this game, you are sorely mistaken. ArcheAge is a monster MMO and I don't think Trion realizes how much of a gold mine they got a hold of by getting the rights to this game.

gold mine? the game disappeared from the top list very quickly and is riddled by bots and cheats in russia (besides, russians seem to like any game where you can harrass and gank other people).

And even if the game did fantastic on takatuka island - that doesnt mean squat for the eu/us market. So before pushing money down Trion's throat, i'd rather wait how the reception will be in us/eu. Right now there is a limited amount of players on alpha where the systems work fine. Will they work fine with a massive amount of players? limited land space? hard core gameplay and guild requirement to have fun? potential pay 2 win features? all the bots entering the economy? Will all the streamers that cause the hype still be playing after release 6 months from now or is it just another fotm?

This and the fact that i keep hearing about financial distress at XL is not reassuring. Why did they price their packages that high if not to cash in quickly? Why for example have they sill not introduced the "new" races altough they already announced them 2 years ago?

And the last point - in a game where "building up your personal wealth" is one of the major elements, why would you want to invest all that time in the alpha where all gets deleted again anyway? Do you really want to shedd out 150 bucks just to get to know the game mechanics (which you can do by just watching vids)?

For 150 bucks you can right now buy 5 AAA games to play...and with archeage you will have to pay a monthly sub later on anyway (forget about playing this game for free, it wont work).

 

ps: your argument is pretty much nonsense. A) there are only a few thousand people on the alpha server B) they are all concentrated on one server C) in every mmo ever existed in the history of mmo's there have been a lot of new characters being created when the game released

I can tell you right now, there is no P2W. The only thing you are paying for in a subscription is to be able to own land. If you don't care about farming, gathering or crafting, than F2P will work just fine. Where you get P2W from is beyond me, but it doesn't even matter. As for BOTs in the game, guess what, they have an in-game mechanic specifically designed to let players deal with BOTs, aka murder them legally. Is AA hardcore and guild friendly only? To some degree yes, but to be honest, a lone wolf can have as much fun in this game as they choose. What do streamers have to do with hype? This game was launched years ago, videos and information are not new, so what hype are you talking about? It's simply being released in NA / EU after years of people begging for it.

Ok, you see, the fact you point out alpha costs $150 like every other idiot troll is enough for me to just ignore the rest of your post. The $150 consists of 3 months of subscription ( $45 ), about $70-80 cash shop money and a few in-game trinkets and title. So that brings alpha access down to about $35. Seriously man, you and all your narrow minded friends need to stop calling it $150 alpha access. By the way, AAA games don't cost $30, try more like $50-60 and thats for the basic edition. How much was ESO's cash grab pay wall CE? $80?

I'm not even arguing cause everything I've said is true. You're the one making shit up.

owning land and labour points.

sorry but is this some kind of joke? if youre not interested in farming, gathering or crafting free to play is fine? really?

why in gods name would anyone want to play the game without these features? all that is left than is an asian themepark with an outdated combat system, quest system and ui...lol aa without crafting and farming HAHAHAHA

Uhm, look. I'll break it down for you as simple as possible. You don't need to own a farm to gather resources, ok? Let me repeat that, just to make sure you understand. You DO NOT need to own a farm to gather resources. If you don't understand that, than I can't help you. What are you talking about F2P doesn't have labor points? Unless that's what they have in the Korean version, I don't know, but NA / EU F2P accounts will have labor points.

Besides all that, if you want to own land and a home, than pay the $10-15 a month to do it. What are you so butt hurt about that no one can seem to please you?

  Insurgent99

Novice Member

Joined: 4/15/14
Posts: 60

5/11/14 2:28:12 AM#58
Looks promising.....i don't know if I like the art style though.
  Nemesis7884

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/21/10
Posts: 490

5/11/14 2:31:34 AM#59

afaik in the other regions labour points do only recover while online for free to play and at a lower rate.

I dont see anyone being interested in archeage and not wanting to farm and use all the sandbox features. Besides, i also doubt if you only gather you will be able to efficiently craft unless you have a guild supporting you.

I think aa has a lot of promis if they can find a fair free to play model and prevent bots from overrunning the game (and they should really get ridd of the hard stuns in pvp - thats just bad game design).

But still, i strongly think the alpha packages are way too expensive and that i would wait until the game is eventually released to see how much hype will be left then...

  BLMMA

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Joined: 4/29/14
Posts: 2

5/11/14 3:14:57 AM#60
Where is our resident AA shill to save the day?
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