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  RelGn

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Joined: 3/30/05
Posts: 515

 
OP  4/12/14 5:26:11 AM#1

To all blind people that dont have enough experience about games and they are simply amazed from the first week saying this will be the next big mmo,wow killer and other bullshit like that.

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

Having try all major mmos i come to say that this game is worse than starwars and gw2.

Why it's worse?

Not because of graphics or sound or combat or anything like that.

The game misses one very important aspect of all games.To captivate the interest of the players in a magical charming way.

In one word the game gets boring very fast.

It's the first time in my life i played only a few days and not even care what will happen next.

At least swtor and gw 2 gave me that feeling.

  FlyByKnight

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Joined: 12/31/12
Posts: 538

4/12/14 5:43:45 AM#2
Not a single fuck was given.
  Madatan

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/03/05
Posts: 134

4/12/14 5:47:45 AM#3
Originally posted by RelGn

To all blind people that dont have enough experience about games and they are simply amazed from the first week saying this will be the next big mmo,wow killer and other bullshit like that.

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

Having try all major mmos i come to say that this game is worse than starwars and gw2.

Why it's worse?

Not because of graphics or sound or combat or anything like that.

The game misses one very important aspect of all games.To captivate the interest of the players in a magical charming way.

In one word the game gets boring very fast.

It's the first time in my life i played only a few days and not even care what will happen next.

At least swtor and gw 2 gave me that feeling.

Good, thank you for that! Now I don't have to play it anymore because you clearly know how I'm going to feel about it soon. Cheers!

  DaOrc

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/12/14
Posts: 51

4/12/14 5:51:54 AM#4
Oh look someone things the MMORPG forums are their personal diary and thinks they opinion matters.  Hard to take the opinion of a ArcheAge fan seriously.
  JHenry

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Joined: 2/15/14
Posts: 188

4/12/14 5:52:42 AM#5
Originally posted by FlyByKnight
Not a single fuck was given.

 

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  Ramanadjinn

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Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 1316

4/12/14 5:53:02 AM#6

The game can be extremely grindy for a modern day MMO.

It certainly is one of the roughest launches i've seen in a while.

It has its good points though.

But it doesn't exactly make one a prophet to proclaim some game isn't a WOW killer.  It was the next big MMO though and has been for a while at least so you're kind of wrong on that point.  The next big MMO now is Wildstar.  

Probably will end up buy/free to play eventually.  And its probably going to snow in Russia.  Also, water is going to be wet.

  Acidon

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Joined: 9/09/05
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4/12/14 5:55:21 AM#7
Originally posted by JHenry
Originally posted by FlyByKnight
Not a single fuck was given.

 

 

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  Swids2010

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 224

Pay to Win. If it can be earned in game its not pay to win FACT

4/12/14 6:01:32 AM#8

I keep playing for a little bit then end up logging off with the feeling is it worth investing am I actually going to sub for me I'm not finding anything better the GW2 I don't play that anymore but I cant see how this is worth a sub when GW2 for me was much more polished and gave a lot more content. They have said they will justify sub but I just cant see it.

For me and a lot of people GW2 set a standard with its free to play and if it isn't a lot better the GW2 I just cant bring myself to put money into a lesser product.

I know I haven't been playing GW2 recently but I'm thinking heavily about going back.

  crasset15

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 181

4/12/14 6:01:52 AM#9

I have made a very important discovery about my gaming 'career' recently. I enjoy games a lot more if I avoid any website or forum where players have freedom of speech about said game. The amount of tryhards on this website bashing ESO is getting close to comical, and I'd advise anyone playing the game (I don't), to simply not visit any forum about it.

Most of the random stuff people whine about goes completely unnoticed by the majority of individual players, but when they read garbage like this thread and others, they will get irritated themselves by the same things, like it or not, and view the game in a more negative light as a result.

So basically, focus on the positive not the negative, because at the end of the day, we all play these games because we like them, not because everything is broken in them and we want to spread the whine on the internet. All you are accomplishing with a thread like this is helping make the community of this game more bitter and negative.

  thark

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/01/03
Posts: 1113

4/12/14 6:16:03 AM#10
Originally posted by RelGn

To all blind people that dont have enough experience about games and they are simply amazed from the first week saying this will be the next big mmo,wow killer and other bullshit like that.

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

Having try all major mmos i come to say that this game is worse than starwars and gw2.

Why it's worse?

Not because of graphics or sound or combat or anything like that.

The game misses one very important aspect of all games.To captivate the interest of the players in a magical charming way.

In one word the game gets boring very fast.

It's the first time in my life i played only a few days and not even care what will happen next.

At least swtor and gw 2 gave me that feeling.

It may become FTP , there is no arguing here..Why are you also trying to make it sound like BTP or FTP is a bad thing ? Isn't FTP the modern standard for all MMO's succesful or not ?

I Think It will keep it's subscription status for atleast..6 Months to a year..

But the rest of your opinions is just your own ...I Think GW2 had a laughable World and lore at best , SWTOR was good but the soft nature of this IP didn't really interesst an older guy like me anymore, aspecially not with the cartoonish Graphics they are offering..

I feel they did a really good job with ESO however, and It totally captivates me..and both of your examples didnt capture me at all..

  DaOrc

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/12/14
Posts: 51

4/12/14 6:18:17 AM#11
Originally posted by thark
Originally posted by RelGn

To all blind people that dont have enough experience about games and they are simply amazed from the first week saying this will be the next big mmo,wow killer and other bullshit like that.

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

Having try all major mmos i come to say that this game is worse than starwars and gw2.

Why it's worse?

Not because of graphics or sound or combat or anything like that.

The game misses one very important aspect of all games.To captivate the interest of the players in a magical charming way.

In one word the game gets boring very fast.

It's the first time in my life i played only a few days and not even care what will happen next.

At least swtor and gw 2 gave me that feeling.

It may become FTP , there is no arguing here..Why are you also trying to make it sound like BTP or FTP is a bad thing ? Isn't FTP the modern standard for all MMO's succesful or not ?

I Think It will keep it's subscription status for atleast..6 Months to a year..

But the rest of your opinions is just your own ...I Think GW2 had a laughable World and lore at best , SWTOR was good but the soft nature of this IP didn't really interesst an older guy like me anymore, aspecially not with the cartoonish Graphics they are offering..

I feel they did a really good job with ESO however, and It totally captivates me..and both of your examples didnt capture me at all..

For some reason people like to force their opinion on others, the OPs post is a great example of this.  I thought GW2 was one of the most forgetful MMOs I played.  SWTOR was ok.  ESO so far is extremely immersive and addicting as long as they polish the game and fix the bugs.

  Sector13

Elite Member

Joined: 8/25/10
Posts: 690

4/12/14 6:19:00 AM#12
Honestly, if it went B2P I would buy it then. It doesn't need to completely go F2P to make more money IMO. The sub fee, while some don't think it's much, is still a paywall that some just don't want to deal with. 
  Vonatar

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 608

4/12/14 6:24:37 AM#13

OP is like one of those crazy dudes who stands outside a train station telling everyone to repent because the world is about to end.

 

Best response? Keep on walking.

  gervaise1

Elite Member

Joined: 1/17/07
Posts: 1486

4/12/14 7:06:32 AM#14
Originally posted by RelGn

 

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

 

Don't agree. Not a metter of defending the game either just a matter of business economics.

First let me say that TESO should have launched as b2p. Having launched as a sub game however it "can't" go back. Yes I know TSW has changed but it retains the legacy of having launched with a sub.

And that legacy is lower initial sales. Sweeping statement: TESO will sell a lot less copies with a sub in its first three months / six months / year than it would have done if it had not had a sub.

As a b2p game from day 1 it could have been looking at selling the Adventure Zone DLC, a Dark Brotherhood DLC, a Thieves Guild DLC and so on to a large and growing population of users. And with high box sales a DLC take up as low as 10% would generate the same revenue as a few million subscribers. TESO - the core game - would be the equivalent of Steam or Origin. And the game would keep selling.

Having launched with a sub ...it has a "legacy" that it has to live with. Same legacy that would impede a f2p conversion as well. The big f2p games have truly huge numbers - and they tend to be free-to-buy as well. So it will find a level of subs and, imo, continue on its path, with 50k, or 500k, or 5M subs - whatever. 

  fivoroth

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Joined: 11/10/06
Posts: 3008

4/12/14 7:14:29 AM#15
Originally posted by RelGn

To all blind people that dont have enough experience about games and they are simply amazed from the first week saying this will be the next big mmo,wow killer and other bullshit like that.

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

Having try all major mmos i come to say that this game is worse than starwars and gw2.

Why it's worse?

Not because of graphics or sound or combat or anything like that.

The game misses one very important aspect of all games.To captivate the interest of the players in a magical charming way.

In one word the game gets boring very fast.

It's the first time in my life i played only a few days and not even care what will happen next.

At least swtor and gw 2 gave me that feeling.

Do you know what? I don't care what you think. 

I have tried a lot of MMOs, to me everything besides WoW and GW1 is trash. Do you see me make threads bashing those games? No. Cause I moved on. Maybe it's something you should try. 

If anything, it's not people that praise this game that are annoying but people like YOU. People who like this game want to discuss it, what's bad about that? People being excited something they like? You know what's said though? People like you who just waste their time bashing games.

Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.

  Harafnir

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Joined: 2/18/04
Posts: 1382

4/12/14 7:17:45 AM#16
See you ingame!

"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"

  Muke

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Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 1641

4/12/14 7:28:19 AM#17
Originally posted by Madatan
Originally posted by RelGn

To all blind people that dont have enough experience about games and they are simply amazed from the first week saying this will be the next big mmo,wow killer and other bullshit like that.

I come here to tell you that no matter how hard you try to defend eso the game will end up buy to play or free to play.

Having try all major mmos i come to say that this game is worse than starwars and gw2.

Why it's worse?

Not because of graphics or sound or combat or anything like that.

The game misses one very important aspect of all games.To captivate the interest of the players in a magical charming way.

In one word the game gets boring very fast.

It's the first time in my life i played only a few days and not even care what will happen next.

At least swtor and gw 2 gave me that feeling.

Good, thank you for that! Now I don't have to play it anymore because you clearly know how I'm going to feel about it soon. Cheers!

OP apparently is THE benchmark for all games out there, better take him serious, after alll, he has tried all major mmo's so he knows what's best for you, especially as we are all blind according to his 1st line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  Theodwulf

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Joined: 2/01/12
Posts: 209

4/12/14 7:33:52 AM#18
Originally posted by DaOrc
Oh look someone things the MMORPG forums are their personal diary and thinks they opinion matters.  Hard to take the opinion of a ArcheAge fan seriously.

What do you think this forum exists for?  It exist for fans of the genre to share their thoughts and feelings on the genre. What you should ask is, if  your opinion on his opinion matters. It adds nothing to the discussions of this game or any other game.

 

in other words Smarten up dum-dum!

  Muke

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Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 1641

4/12/14 7:37:33 AM#19
Originally posted by Theodwulf
Originally posted by DaOrc
Oh look someone things the MMORPG forums are their personal diary and thinks they opinion matters.  Hard to take the opinion of a ArcheAge fan seriously.

What do you think this forum exists for?  It exist for fans of the genre to share their thoughts and feelings on the genre. What you should ask is, if  your opinion on his opinion matters. It adds nothing to the discussions of this game or any other game.

 

in other words Smarten up dum-dum!

"It exist for fans of the genre to share their thoughts and feelings"

 

Sharing your opinions is kinda different then telling others they are idiots and they are THE authority to take serious, while posting such stuff you insult others and make yourself look stupid trying to convince others that you are smart.

Posting stuff like that it is better to have a good flamesuit ready. Unless you are a troll, then it's +1 for every reply and wait for the forum mods to issue a ban/warning for posting troll threads.

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  MikeJezZ

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Joined: 7/08/04
Posts: 1199

Only in death, does duty end.

4/12/14 7:46:00 AM#20
Well I really like the freedom of my character to make him play like I want. Sorcerer in plate? Fuck yeah.

I hope not f2p - would hate to pay € to respec or pay for new content like in defiance.

Playing ATM: Elder Scrolls Online, Diablo 3
MMO's shelted: Check my mmorpg profile
KICKSTARTED: Camelot Unchained. (250 USD)

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