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4/11/14 4:14:44 PM#21
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by BadOrb
Originally posted by azzamasin
This will be exacerbated on May 4th when people have to renew their subscription or most likely cancel.  Especially if their not having fun or burned themselves out within that first month.

O wow that explains the reason behind SWTOR giving away an extra 1000 cartel coins on May the 4th to subbs.



I know you're not serious, but then again.... just gonna say may the 4th be with you :P

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4/11/14 4:30:09 PM#22
Originally posted by Aroukos

Its happening? You haven't seen anything yet.

I have seen many times before the same story, but never seen so many ppl complaining about a game only one week after launch. Not about bugs, but for the game itself. And i m not speaking about ppl who post here, but ppl i know in real life.

Is the game bad? I don't think so (not my taste but i don't think its a bad game at all), but they all made the same mistake. They new that it wasn't for their taste. They never liked much questing or hanging up with the lore. They also never wanted PvP as their end game content and they always were Raiders.

Now why the hell they bought ESO in first place? Imo because its something new, its ES, hyped and thought this would change something to their play style. But no, you can adjust your tastes to a game. Either you like it and buy it or you don't and let it pass.

So, despite i don't like ESO, i think that its their mistake and not games fault. Games are not like clothes fashion. Don't buy them if you don't like the concept. So simple.


This would be substantially more convincing if there wasn't a very vocal contingent who were loudly complaining about the game before it was launched.  If anything, I think that opinions about this game became far more positive when the beta NDA was removed and a lot of people got to experience the game.

The initial draw will be the people who really like the questing and exploring.  Longer term it will be the PvP, adventure zones, and the pace at which other new things are added.  Right now there is a subset, primarily long term beta testers, who have pushed to the endgame.  Any group that slams through content that quickly is not going to be happy in any game; I think that catering to content locusts has been a disaster for game designers.  ESO has hundreds of hours of things to do on launch, and people who've ignored most of it to get to level cap in days are not their primary audience.  I think they know this, fortunately.


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4/11/14 4:39:51 PM#23
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

People are burning out on this game.... And its mostly the hardcore players... For reasons i predicted long time ago...


when do they finally understand that these themepark games are for us casuals, us casuals that play 100 hours a month or less... Us casuals that play to enjoy the journey.

Casuals do not play 100 hours a month. People are burning themselves out and it's their own fault.


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4/11/14 4:41:05 PM#24
It's crazy... I started day one of the 5 day early access and my highest character is 12. There is so much to do in this game that I spend a lot of time running around the map that I lose track of time and only get a couple quests done. The problem is that they are playing it too much like WoW rather than an ES gane . There are to many things they have to be missing in this game if they are power leveling and/or rushing through quest hubs. They have no idea what's in this game world or don't care....why not just stick to a run of the mill MMO if you are going to play it like that???

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4/11/14 4:42:45 PM#25
Originally posted by dumpcat
It's crazy... I started day one of the 5 day early access and my highest character is 12. There is so much to do in this game that I spend a lot of time running around the map that I lose track of time and only get a couple quests done. The problem is that they are playing it too much like WoW rather than an ES gane . There are to many things they have to be missing in this game if they are power leveling and/or rushing through quest hubs. They have no idea what's in this game world or don't care....why not just stick to a run of the mill MMO if you are going to play it like that???

^  Same! I'm now TRYING to level faster, and I'm only 15. Goodness!


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4/11/14 4:59:51 PM#26
Originally posted by AIMonster

Who's to say hardcore doesn't enjoy the journey too?  Sick of people spouting that BS "It's about the journey not the destination", when there are plenty of people who play hardcore, complete all content, burn out, and experience the same exact count as a casual does.  Some even experience it at the same PACE (on an hourly basis) as a casual does.

In reality, most hardcore players who you'd consider rushing "content locusts" or whatever negative stereotype who blow through current MMOs quickly actually experienced content that is more challenging, better designed (as developers focus efforts on end game), and more meaningful than anything people who spout the journey nonsense and claim they have a better experience than those players experienced.

Of course people are burning out on TESO.  Even at a casual pace the game has a lack of endgame content to keep players interested.  Outside of PvP, there isn't really any difficult challenge to be had in the game itself (the dungeons are simplistic) and the new game+ (I forget what they call it) doesn't really qualify as new content and the adventure zones aren't in the release of the game.  It's not as if this hasn't been the case for just about every major MMO release in the past 10 years either.  Sorry, but your "prediction" isn't anything impressive and we don't need another forum post bragging about how right you were and how hardcore players are the devil.


First off, you are making the same mistake that the people you "are sick of" are making. It is about the journey, always. People's journeys are not homogeneous; there is a different rate of play for almost every person out there.

Challenge is also relative. What is challenging to you may not be challenging to another, and vice versa.

Your post appears to be riddled with the same expectations you cite. You seem to expect people to agree on "better designed", "more meaningful" , "more challenging", without actually expressing those expectations directly. If these forums are any evidence, people do not agree on these things. :)


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4/11/14 5:00:37 PM#27

People rush to the lvl 50 because they want to reach the multiplayer content.

While I take my time and enjoy the levelling because solo content doesn't specially (While I would prefer group-oriented content, or hard-solo content), I have some friends that only wants to do veteran dungeons, (cut, to be released) adventures zones and RvR.


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4/11/14 5:07:18 PM#28
Gamers that skip content and find the areas the game exp rate is not balanced or find loop hopes to level first IMO are not hardcore. Go play the game and stop crying fowel.

=-D Only on a forum can optimism be called the bad thing and pessimism is the good thing =-D


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4/11/14 5:28:27 PM#29
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Gamers that skip content and find the areas the game exp rate is not balanced or find loop hopes to level first IMO are not hardcore. Go play the game and stop crying fowel.

really royalty gaming isn't hardcore?  I was on DC in ABow, and all the hardcore pvpers knew about the xp mob grind>quests and grinding the best xp for hours on end is a great way to play when you look upon questing as work you need to do because game devs force you to just to pvp in a non point left click world.




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4/11/14 5:36:51 PM#30
Wife and I started on day of the 5-day early access, and we're only level 15. The only problem we have is we have to make alts just for the extra bag space. We're both having a blast.

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4/11/14 5:39:36 PM#31
Lord.Bachus I think this is the first trolling post i read from you.

No proves....nothing.

Didn´t expect this one from you....


WHO is burnt? Who is quitting? Hardcore players that leave a game a week after it lauched??

C´mon give me a break.

Garbage post srry. ¬¬


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4/11/14 5:46:46 PM#32

Originally posted by Tygranir
So you are saying people are playing the game wrong? It isn't the floaty combat or bad animations that are contributing factors?

why would floaty combat or bad animations be the reason why people are burned out?

the same people that are rage quitting this game are he same that rage quit SWTOR after a couple weeks.

just like it will always be the same people trolling these forums that don't even play the game :)


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4/11/14 5:50:37 PM#33
There will always be player drop-off for all kinds of reasons in the initial parts of a new release.  Actual, stable population numbers cannot be known for quite some time.  It's just the norm.
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