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  makasouleater69

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OP  4/07/14 1:58:46 PM#1
Or is it just a coincidence that the release date of ESO, a major mmo is the day they decide to mark down 50 percent?
  Aeonblades

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4/07/14 2:00:59 PM#2
It's not a coincidence for sure. Whether or not people will bite I don't know. I'm honestly surprised Blizzard didn't rush to release their expansion earlier. Their arrogance for their spot as top dog will eventually be their undoing, 15 months of the same raids is just...bad management.

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  Soki123

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4/07/14 2:03:45 PM#3
Originally posted by Aeonblades
It's not a coincidence for sure. Whether or not people will bite I don't know. I'm honestly surprised Blizzard didn't rush to release their expansion earlier. Their arrogance for their spot as top dog will eventually be their undoing, 15 months of the same raids is just...bad management.

Ho w do you know they re aren t releasing stuff in the mean time.

  alkarionlog

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4/07/14 2:04:27 PM#4

consideranting they new patch will land on april 18th making a sell for it to gather more people for the game would amke more sense.

 

sorry guys ESO is not treat to any game, I sure you guys hoped it would be the case, but sorry, its not

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  Aeonblades

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4/07/14 2:04:49 PM#5
Originally posted by Soki123
Originally posted by Aeonblades
It's not a coincidence for sure. Whether or not people will bite I don't know. I'm honestly surprised Blizzard didn't rush to release their expansion earlier. Their arrogance for their spot as top dog will eventually be their undoing, 15 months of the same raids is just...bad management.

Ho w do you know they re aren t releasing stuff in the mean time.

Shrug, I have no way of knowing for sure other than Blizzard outright stating that SoO was going to be the last raid addition to MoP. They may add more though for all we know.

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  Entinerint

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4/07/14 2:05:11 PM#6
Yes, of course, this is a no-brainer.
  Daxamar

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4/07/14 2:07:11 PM#7

No-brainer. No one wants to lose customers.

  Daxamar

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4/07/14 2:08:48 PM#8
Originally posted by alkarionlog

consideranting they new patch will land on april 18th making a sell for it to gather more people for the game would amke more sense.

 

sorry guys ESO is not treat to any game, I sure you guys hoped it would be the case, but sorry, its not

Thats your opinion. Not the case tho. Im sure MMO companies look at the competition. Who wouldnt?

 

  Aroukos

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4/07/14 2:09:55 PM#9

It doesnt matter the reason. Point is that GW2 is a quality game, with good pace in adding content and free of sub. April Feature Packs looks amazing also. So what matters is the good deal and not the reason.

As for WoW, despite i m an old WoW player and fan, i ll say its sad letting ppl play the same content for 15 months. Another sad thing is whatever ppl say, when WoD comes out most of them (maybe me too...) will get it. This is some kind of addiction and not a choice anymore.

  Vannor

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4/07/14 2:12:09 PM#10
50% off GW2 is a bargain. If someone hasn't tried it yet and is mulling it over.. they should snap it up and save it for when they aren't playing something else.
  Aeonblades

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4/07/14 2:16:43 PM#11
Originally posted by Vannor
50% off GW2 is a bargain. If someone hasn't tried it yet and is mulling it over.. they should snap it up and save it for when they aren't playing something else.

I agree with this, the game is very entertaining, especially if you don't burn through leveling and content.

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  MikeJezZ

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4/07/14 2:21:11 PM#12
Gw2 is alright but after you hit level cap there's no great content imo

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  Satsunoryu

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4/07/14 3:17:20 PM#13
I believe it was due to ESO as it does pose a significant threat to GW2, whether anyone wants to admit that or not.  In any event, half off for GW2 is definitely worth it for the leveling experience alone, however after hitting 80 I did bail on the game as WvW, unfortunately, was a huge disappointment to me.

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  Cougan

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4/07/14 3:51:42 PM#14

I had fun for a year on GW2 its definitely worth the box price!

 

My thoughts were the price reduction was due to ESO release also purely because of the sale date. Was 4th april onwards or something.

  Zhauric

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4/07/14 3:57:38 PM#15
Hardly seeing the relevance. Is it supposed to make those who prefer ESO feel good or something? It's simple business. The market gets more crowded you offer something above the competition. Not much of a big deal honestly. If you haven't played GW2 it's a time to give it a whirl. Not like you pay a sub fee so no harm, no foul. Enjoying ESO then keep on keeping on or get GW2 to hit it at a later time while it's marked down. Really no loss for the consumer/player. Win win.
  gervaise1

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4/07/14 4:47:28 PM#16

50% off due to TESOs launch - no.....

50% off due to TESOs beta coming to an end - yes.

  • Some / all of the people who participated in the beta phase will have come from other games.
  • They "made a decision" to give the TESO beta a try.
  • Some may just have been curious but others will have been trying the game looking for a "new home".
  • Those who decided not to buy TESO - these are the people the offer is aimed at.
  Mardy

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4/07/14 6:49:39 PM#17

As a GW2 player, I can say yes ESO has everything to do with the 50% discount, just as ESO has everything to do with Anet coming out announcing MegaServer 1 day before ESO launch.  If you look at mmorpg.com, the ad place was bought up by ESO, so Anet comes in and buys a share of it so it now displays not just ESO's "HEY COME PLAY" ad, it also displays GW2's ad.

 

It's marketing, it's all about the bottom line.  Yes, no company likes to lose customers.  It has nothing to do with whether ESO is a "threat" or not.  You be a board member sit in the room full of black suits, and you tell me with a straight face if they're gonna say it's "OK" to lose some customers here and there to another company's product.  It's never ok, no matter how large or small.  This is the same for all companies with paying customers, no matter if it's a game or not.

 

Anet already pushed Season 2 out ahead of ESO's release.  The one thing that has gone ESO's way is Season 2 WvW tournament has created a MESS to 2/3 of the servers in GW2.  Many servers emptied out due to the transfer that Anet allowed before Season 2 started.  Some servers have 300+ queues to play in WvW.  The lopsided Season 2 matchups have caused a lot of people to give ESO a thought, myself included.  It was why I even looked into ESO in the first place.  I never beta'ed ESO, wasn't planning on playing it due to beta feedback.  But Anet pushed me to look into ESO, and now as a result I'm having a great time in ESO and only playing GW2 for 10% of my time.  I mean really, take a look at the Season 2 matchup, there is maybe one decent matchup going on, every other matchup is lopsided and simply not fun for GW2 players.  http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/

 

Now, take me as a market sample, an experiment.  Someone like me who was spending over $100 within a couple of weeks expanding bags, bank slots, character slots, building new characters, and buying weapon skins in GW2.  I'm now fully vested into ESO, will be giving ESO my $14.99 a month, and will not be spending a dime in GW2 for quite foreseeable future.  You think the black suits in the meeting rooms are going to be OK with that?  The fact that GW2 is b2p, I still can play GW2 without spending a dime because my attention is elsewhere.  You can bet ArenaNet has taken notice of ESO, whether ESO is a "threat" or not, it's completely irrelevant.  They are losing money and potential revenue just simply because ESO is launched, and  it's now providing an alternative to GW2's "Coverage Wars", "Blob Wars", and "Transfer Wars"....whatever funny thing you want to call the current messed up situation in GW2 Season 2 WvW.

 

So yes, bottom line is, everything Anet is doing now have everything to do with ESO's launch.  To think otherwise is being naive.

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  venats

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4/07/14 7:06:47 PM#18
Originally posted by Mardy

As a GW2 player, I can say yes ESO has everything to do with the 50% discount, just as ESO has everything to do with Anet coming out announcing MegaServer 1 day before ESO launch.

While the rest of your conspiracy theory is an enjoyable read, this part is just a lack of software knowledge.

Any development like that would have been in the works for months and upwards of a year as its not a simple backend change to server handling, nor are algos like that written and vetted in a day. Megaserver, sorry to say, is not a term coined by ESO and as such the game has no claim to a name but maybe they picked the name for that reason. The actual reveal though has little to do with ESO, this is how GW1 worked initially so you may as well claim that ESO copied GW1, unless you think that the programmers at ArenaNet have impeccable timing on when they get entire server backend changes and advanced algos working.

If they wanted to murder ESO on launch, they'd have released SAB III.

  Dakeru

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4/07/14 7:08:42 PM#19

Did they get encouraged to do another discount event cause of the ESO release? - most probably

Did they start the living story in April 2013 so they could end it in April 2014 followed by major game mechanic changes when ESO would  come out? - sure if you are wearing a tinfoil hat

  Mardy

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4/07/14 7:12:54 PM#20
Originally posted by venats
Originally posted by Mardy

As a GW2 player, I can say yes ESO has everything to do with the 50% discount, just as ESO has everything to do with Anet coming out announcing MegaServer 1 day before ESO launch.

While the rest of your conspiracy theory is an enjoyable read, this part is just a lack of software knowledge.

Any development like that would have been in the works for months and upwards of a year as its not a simple backend change to server handling, nor are algos like that written and vetted in a day. Megaserver, sorry to say, is not a term coined by ESO and as such the game has no claim to a name but maybe they picked the name for that reason. The actual reveal though has little to do with ESO unless you think that the programmers at ArenaNet have impeccable timing on when they get entire server backend changes and advanced algos working.

If they wanted to murder ESO on launch, they'd have released SAB III.

 

1. I never claimed ESO coined the MegaServer term, you're the one that said it.

2. As a tech I know how software work very well.  Yes Anet started work on MegaServer before ESO launch, but then they would have to be if they want to compete with ESO on that regard wouldn't they?  No decent company sits back and waits until their competition releases something, then respond later.  They plan ahead of the time so they have ways to respond sooner than later.

You are being naive in thinking all that Anet has announced and done within these past 2 weeks have nothing to do with ESO.  But you're entitled to your opinions, just as you are entitled to being naive and call anybody else suggesting otherwise as "conspiracy theory".  I'll let other people be the judge.

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