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  Volenibblets

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4/04/14 1:28:58 AM#61
It's in examples like ESO that you realise that gamers really are just plain different. I think a lot of the 'what?! how can you like blah blah blah' flaming comes from the innate assumption that everyone is just like you so if they like something you think is an incredibly bland/2-D/rehashed done-to-death format then they're just confused and need some assistance in the form of upper case text haranguing till they're put right on the matter. Glad you enjoy it, though your comments sound like a newly wed telling everyone that his wife is 'the most beautiful woman in the world' whilst the guests just scratch their heads in confusion and stare aghast as she devours the entire wedding cake.                
  Teala

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4/04/14 1:36:00 AM#62
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

  Tedger

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4/04/14 1:44:33 AM#63
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

So.. OP, many others as well, me included, are telling how he is feeling good about game. We are enjoying ourselves and really hope that this game will have future, dont care if its "f2p" or monthly fee.

Intresting that you choose to doom and gloom over us. Do we irritate you?

  Bigdaddyx

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4/04/14 1:46:23 AM#64
Originally posted by Tedger
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

So.. OP, many others as well, me included, are telling how he is feeling good about game. We are enjoying ourselves and really hope that this game will have future, dont care if its "f2p" or monthly fee.

 

Don't mind her. She hates all themepark MMOS.

And yes i agree. As long as game i up and running and has regular content i dont care if its F2P or P2P.

  Distopia

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4/04/14 1:46:41 AM#65
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

Why would the OP need to explain such? That's not in his hands.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Teala

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4/04/14 1:50:57 AM#66
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Tedger
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

So.. OP, many others as well, me included, are telling how he is feeling good about game. We are enjoying ourselves and really hope that this game will have future, dont care if its "f2p" or monthly fee.

 

Don't mind her. She hates all themepark MMOS.

And yes i agree. As long as game i up and running and has regular content i dont care if its F2P or P2P.

Yes, that is why I say WoW is one of the best MMORPG's ever made.   That means I hate all themeparks.    I don't hate them all, I just think they could have been made better.   If I am so wrong, why have so many failed and why have so many had to go free to play just to stay alive?  

  Teala

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4/04/14 1:53:24 AM#67
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

Why would the OP need to explain such? That's not in his hands.

Because, he is the one that comes to the forum hyping a game that doesn't deserve the level of hype he has given it.   He spouts of incredible sub numbers and then comes in proclaiming this is the best MMORRG ever "one RPG to rule them all".  Really...I mean, really?

  SavageHorizon

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4/04/14 1:55:09 AM#68
The op sure talks some dribble lol, desperation is strong in this one. ESO is your typical new gen coop game labled as a mmmo but with really shit animations and combat. Nothing old school about it, ArcheAage is more old school.

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  sethman75

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4/04/14 1:55:39 AM#69

Can't get over some of the criticism of the game being linear and a grind.

Protip - Pick a direction and go and find quests and things to do there. If you think that is linear you need to evaluate what the word means.

And grind? I have not seen one single kill 10 rats quest. I'm guessing this is a veiled attack on the leveling portion of the game which the same people tend to hate.

If it's not a pvp centric level less MMO, the same people are not happy about it.

  Distopia

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4/04/14 1:56:03 AM#70
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Tedger
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

So.. OP, many others as well, me included, are telling how he is feeling good about game. We are enjoying ourselves and really hope that this game will have future, dont care if its "f2p" or monthly fee.

 

Don't mind her. She hates all themepark MMOS.

And yes i agree. As long as game i up and running and has regular content i dont care if its F2P or P2P.

Yes, that is why I say WoW is one of the best MMORPG's ever made.   That means I hate all themeparks.    I don't hate them all, I just think they could have been made better.   If I am so wrong, why have so many failed and why have so many had to go free to play just to stay alive?  

You're perceived how you present yourself, in the things you say and how you say it.That goes for all of us.

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  Distopia

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4/04/14 2:00:39 AM#71
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

Why would the OP need to explain such? That's not in his hands.

Because, he is the one that comes to the forum hyping a game that doesn't deserve the level of hype he has given it.   He spouts of incredible sub numbers and then comes in proclaiming this is the best MMORRG ever "one RPG to rule them all".  Really...I mean, really?

WHo are you to decide how much hype the game should deserve in the OP's eyes? For all you or I know this could be his favorite game ever. There's no universal guideline on which game deserves what level of praise when it comes to the individual.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  dotdotdash

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4/04/14 2:03:06 AM#72


Originally posted by Tedger
[Interesting that you choose to doom and gloom over us. Do we irritate you?

Interesting that the inference of this comment is that the sharing of negative opinions is in some way indicative of a motive other than the sharing of a negative opinion.

Saying "I think it'll maybe get 150K-300K subscribers and then it'll go f2p" is no better or worse than readying a post that says "I think ESO is an amazing game and I'm enjoying it and think it will be very successful." There seems to be some suggestion that blindly positive comments like that are fine, but blindly negative comments are in some way invalid due solely to the fact that they are negative, despite the fact that both comments are equal in their severity and ignorance ;D

  cronius77

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4/04/14 2:08:30 AM#73

While I do not agree with this being a true old school mmorpg, I can see that its a much slower paced game with lots of exploration added on. You can pretty much go around any zone and tell a lot of work and care went into designing every zone to kinda tell a story and immerse the player. Also the leveling is much slower than most other themepark games although some have found ways to just basically exploit the system or power game and miss half the content but to each their own. 

While you do have some hand holding on the quest lines the quests themselves are actually pretty detailed and actually do tell a story especially once you get past the starting areas. The fighter and mage guild quest lines are also pretty well done and actually do require you to be active in combat and not just auto attacking as there are mini bosses. So I can kinda see where the OP is coming from but I do think comparing it to EQ in a technical sense is far from accurate but maybe in a lore and story sense I can kinda see where hes coming from. I grew up playing EQ DAOC and even vanilla wow and I can tell you one thing about all of them , the older I get the last thing I want to do is grind mobs for hours and days just to get one level and I think ESO has a very good pace, not to fast but not ungodly slow. I think this game out of all the recent mmorpgs released in the last 6 or 7 years I think ESO is the best one at least for me as it has the pvp I like and the lore and story I really enjoy. 

  mindw0rk

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4/04/14 2:15:57 AM#74

Another topic in "you kids dont know anything" category.

There are many gamers who are older then you and who played more RPGs then you. And who dislike TESO. Deal with it.

  Tedger

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4/04/14 2:23:50 AM#75
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
The op sure talks some dribble lol, desperation is strong in this one. ESO is your typical new gen coop game labled as a mmmo but with really shit animations and combat. Nothing old school about it, ArcheAage is more old school.

So.. sun is shining your friend is having fun and good day... you go to him and say "you cant enjoy, dont you remember you gf just left you and its going to rain for the rest of the week, and prolly your next gf will dump you too because you are too into it."

  maji

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4/04/14 2:26:44 AM#76
I'd probably give ESO a try, if it wouldn't be for the combination of purchase + subscription + cash shop. That's a bit too much for me.

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  Crazyhorsek

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4/04/14 2:36:31 AM#77
Originally posted by maji
I'd probably give ESO a try, if it wouldn't be for the combination of purchase + subscription + cash shop. That's a bit too much for me.

What cash shop?

You mean the vanity and utility store like WoW has? For vanity pets and mounts and name/ gender / class changes and transfers?

ESO doesnt have a "cash shop"

  GuyClinch

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4/04/14 3:32:24 AM#78
Originally posted by dotdotdash

 


Originally posted by Tedger
[Interesting that you choose to doom and gloom over us. Do we irritate you?

 

Interesting that the inference of this comment is that the sharing of negative opinions is in some way indicative of a motive other than the sharing of a negative opinion.

Saying "I think it'll maybe get 150K-300K subscribers and then it'll go f2p" is no better or worse than readying a post that says "I think ESO is an amazing game and I'm enjoying it and think it will be very successful." There seems to be some suggestion that blindly positive comments like that are fine, but blindly negative comments are in some way invalid due solely to the fact that they are negative, despite the fact that both comments are equal in their severity and ignorance

No hating on a game is worse because most often they haven't played said game. They just pigeonhole the type of game and then bash it based on that. Oh it's a themepark on rails so it sucks. The people that LIKE the game are actually playing it - and that's why they like it.

The art of gaming making is a bit of a ruse. You make it seem like the player is not on rails - when they are. You give the impression of freedom of choice - when there isn't any or its not meaningful. Its all a kind of slight of hand. You want to make your NPC characters that people care about when logically they should not.

So if you don't play the game - you don't know how well the developers have done these things and are just assuming stuff. I was lukewarm on ESO because I was lukewarm on the beta - but after playing it some I like it more then I thought I would.

Its trite but you really have to play these games to make an informed decision. And no it's not sunk costs. It didn't take me too long to figure out the similar sounding (on paper) FFXIV wasn't gonna work..

 

  MyownGod

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4/04/14 3:45:46 AM#79
Originally posted by Dren_Utogi

I'm pretty versed in old mmorpgs, and there has not been any released since lotro. LotrO has all of the core elements of a an Asheron calls sequel minus the pvp.

 

TESO is a single play cop title with a hybrid combat system that felt fun for minute.

This guy, this guy said it well. I played its beta phases, I can't see how TESO meant to be "old school", I don't get that immersion feeling like I used to get with game like Ultima, I know its not a good comparative but I just feel TESO got something that lacks hard. If it was something, TESO like Dren said, is but another theme park game, and I have to agree that the combat is mind blowingly good, however I still feel disconnected from the game, and I'm sure many or some of you felt it.

  MyownGod

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4/04/14 3:48:55 AM#80
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Tedger
Originally posted by Teala
Going to be watching your post in the future when you try to explain how ESO only has 150k to 300k subs in a few months time....and then goes free to play to try to stay alive.

So.. OP, many others as well, me included, are telling how he is feeling good about game. We are enjoying ourselves and really hope that this game will have future, dont care if its "f2p" or monthly fee.

 

Don't mind her. She hates all themepark MMOS.

And yes i agree. As long as game i up and running and has regular content i dont care if its F2P or P2P.

Yes, that is why I say WoW is one of the best MMORPG's ever made.   That means I hate all themeparks.    I don't hate them all, I just think they could have been made better.   If I am so wrong, why have so many failed and why have so many had to go free to play just to stay alive?  

You're perceived how you present yourself, in the things you say and how you say it.That goes for all of us.

Words of expression right? but I have to agree with Teala that WoW so far is the only best mmorpg out at the moment. I have hated WoW for 8 years, and during those 8 years, I have tried many many mmos out there, I vowed that I would never go back to WoW, but I lost faith in searching for that MMO that I can settle into and now I'm enjoying WoW more than ever.

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