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General Discussion  » Did you pay for Elder Scrolls Online Early Access?

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4/03/14 3:09:54 PM#21

Ok I can see the OP's point and I agree. 

Some people have jobs or school and only have limited windows to play so technically if it keeps you from playing for 2 of the 5 days that can account for saying 2 of 5. 


I do understand some of you are rampant fanbois and believe zeni can do no wrong, and still others of you will flame and argue and disagree no matter what someone posts here.



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4/03/14 3:13:32 PM#22

All people with early acces / headstart will get up to sunday before their account payment goes live.

We want you to know that everyone who was part of Early Access will be granted an extended grace period until Sunday at 8AM EDT/12PM GMT before being required to transition your account to live. This will cover those who purchased ESO from an online retailer and won't be getting your box shipped in time and also gives anyone who purchased digitally more Early Access time."
- @?ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Tada !

<3 Zenimax

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4/03/14 3:20:04 PM#23
Originally posted by Gestankfaust

"Blizzard never treated us like this."




Lucky I was taking a drink of my beer when I read this....

I know right.  All the credits given to me below were out of sheer generosity, and had nothing to do with the game being down for entire days at a time, for the first 3 months...





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4/03/14 3:21:07 PM#24
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by fivoroth

For people in Europe who actually have commitments durng the day like work/school/uni, this is actually worse. Why? Because if the game launched at the said time people would be able to play now during prime time. And then play tomorrow at prime time again. Now you can't play teh game today unless you are willing to stay up till 2-5 am in the morning lol.

Would you rather they delay the EU launch by 8 hours then?  Or are you suggesting that they actually release it a day early or something?  I guess I'm confused at the complaint here.  Just because it launches, doesn't mean you have to play right then.

This just sounds like a no-win situation for Zeni, since no matter when they choose to launch, it will inconvenience someone.

I would rather they release the game at the time they specified originally. What do I get out of it when it launches today at midnight -1am? I can't play it at 1am can I now? If they launched tomorrow at 7 am US time and 12 pm EU time that would've been better. The servers would've been down during a time when both EU and US people are asleep.

Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by KaitarBesh

Two days? Where are you getting that from? They took the server down for about 15 hours yesterday/night before to fix a major, major issue. They're taking the servers down for 3-4 hours today to do a final pre-launch patch. How does that equal 48 hours total? It doesn't even add up to 24 hours.

I have the 3 day early access. Frankly, I'm fine with them taking the servers down to fix things that need fixed rather than let it go and let it go and ignore it and let it go....

You know, I paid for early access for FFXI ARR too, and I got to play ZERO of that. NONE. Because of server lines and downtime issues. That game is still apparently doing well (though I never did sub as I found it too linear and repetitive). A few hours of downtime, or even a full day, is not going to make or break a game at launch. MMO launches always. ALWAYS. have down time. ALWAYS. I've been around for many, and every. single. time. the servers are down for at least a few hours, and usually down for a lot more than that.

Just go do something else for a while. And if you don't like how early access goes, just don't pre-order next time.

I got 3 day early access cause I bought retail and I can tell you that they in reality took 2 days away from us. People need to go to school/uni/work and can't really play in the day. Yesterday they took down the servers during prime time so limited play time there. But today is just outrageous. I can't play today at all because they took the servers down for 4-5 hours during prime time - 7pm - midnight european time.

Why the hell do they take down the servers during prime time?? I really wanted to play today because I won't be playing tomorrow, it's Friday after all. And even if I stayed in to play the game, I am sure the servers will get hammered and will be down/laggy because it's launch. 

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Yet another thread of misinformation.


No one paid anything for early access (cept Ebay...why in the hell? I dunno). The servers have been down less than 24 hours total. And most of that was when people were (should have been) asleep.

This is so typical! Trust me all those downtimes were during EUROPEAN PRIME TIME! Zenimax have treated us like shit all along. Overpriced digital purchases, downtime during prime time and the actual launch is delayed for Europeans as it is aligned with the US launch. 

Blizzard never treated us like this.

It amuses me when EU players complain so much. You guys act like there havent been games that also take their servers down during US prime times. FFXIV is a perfect example. 90% of their downtime, including maintenance EVERY week, has been right at the start of US prime time. Why? Because they're a Japanese company, doing most of their work on Japan time.

But that's OK right? I mean as long as it isnt YOU that it's happening to there's no issue. Would you be on here raging about how they treat US players like dog shit if they were taking it down during US prime time instead?

Do you even consider the fact that most of these companies are not fully staffed 24/7? They typically operate on fairly regular business hours for where THEY are located, which is in the US. They're not going to have their entire staff working 24 hour shifts just for the sake of a bunch of angry euro kiddies getting to play a video game. Just like the rest of us, they do have lives and families outside of work to attend to.

You know what? I am pretty sure that if they took down the servers during US prime time 6pm to 12am-1am you would also been pissed off. I know you don't care cause you can play during your prime time and this doesn't affect you much.

I am even more pissed off cause I normally go to a bar on Thursdays to get hammered but cancelled to play before launch.

Um... I actually dont play during US pimetime. My main play time is during work, which is on the night shift. In fact that really long downtime yesterday, started about an hour before I woke up and got on for work. Lasted my entire shift + the rest of my free time after work. Only got in about an hour of play after the server came back up before I had to sleep again. Practically an entire of not being able to play for me due to the timing & my schedule. You didn't see me on here throwing a nonstop hissy fit about it. In fact I was one of the people on here telling people to stop being such whiny babies.

Point is, downtimes suck for someone somewhere no matter when they do it. If it isn't you or me it's someone else not getting to play. It's no reason to flip out. Life will still go on. You'll get to play tomorrow.

Raging about it and getting upset to the point where you take it as an offense to you and your entire region does nothing meaningful. Just makes you angry over a simple video game. Why not get angry over something that actually matters? I mean hell, we could start with banks. Why the fuck are banks only open like 9-5 and closed for entire days? They should be available all the time, it's our money. What if I have an emergency that I need to take a large sum out for?


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The adult I am takes care of most things real life. However my inner-child is a GAMER!!

4/03/14 3:31:46 PM#25

Yes I caved in as I usually never pre-order, but did this time with no regret. Reason is I already know my playtime is limited so all in all have spend only close to 2 hours of playing all together (3day headstart)




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4/03/14 4:02:54 PM#26

nah ... i have so many other things to do that i probably won't have time for ESO ... may be if it goes F2P, i will give it 20 min and try it out.



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4/03/14 4:28:15 PM#27
nop culdnt afford th game mebbe later wen it drops in prize perhaps :)

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4/03/14 4:35:35 PM#28

Of course you paid for Early Access - the packages that had it cost more, yes?

You paid for other items too of course - the rings, crabs, etc.

Just because ZoS calls it a 'bonus' doesn't make it free.

If it was really a free,  it would be included in the regular normal purchase, right?


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4/03/14 4:40:05 PM#29
Originally posted by SalmonMan

Of course you paid for Early Access - the packages that had it cost more, yes?

You paid for other items too of course - the rings, crabs, etc.

Just because ZoS calls it a 'bonus' doesn't make it free.

If it was really a free,  it would be included in the regular normal purchase, right?

Hope that was sarcasm cause the Early access was included in normal


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4/03/14 4:50:13 PM#30
Originally posted by SalmonMan

If it was really a free,  it would be included in the regular normal purchase, right?

No. That's not how logic works.

Something extra can be free and not be included, even across identical products.

If I say, "I'm selling oranges, and they come with free rubberbands!" Then you would expect a rubberband with your orange.

If I say, ""I'm selling these oranges with free rubberbands, and I'm selling these oranges by themselves." There should be no expectation of free rubberbands in the second group.


Now, in the case of early access, if I purchase a product that lists it as part of the order, then yes I fully expect to receive it. ZOS has delivered on that, it was their duty to make the game available to me for 5 days early. And they did. Nowhere did they guarantee that I would be granted time off from work, have 10 flat tires, slip on a banana peel, or that the servers would have 100% uptime during the early access.

Just like your ISP doesn't reduce your bill for outages. You paid for the whole month right?


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4/05/14 5:45:43 PM#31

Funny I played every day of early access and had no issues... I guess it was down for part of a day (2 days is an outright lie).

For those who haven't played, I assure you the OP is incorrect in his statement of the servers being down for 2 days (or even close to it for that matter. I give you my word it is a great exaggeration.


Also, they have added 2 free days to recoup for the hours lost (less than a day). So thats 48 hours extra time for the less than 24 hours it was down. 



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4/07/14 8:39:04 AM#32
It was down for a day, if you shout enough they might give you an extra day on your sub. I have better things to do. :)

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4/07/14 9:38:08 AM#33
Originally posted by Aeonblades

You didn't pay for early access, you pre-purchased a game that releases on 4/4/14. No one paid a dime for early access, it was a bonus and clearly stated in the terms as such. By having the server up at all during the past 3 or 5 days they have fulfilled their agreement completely.

No one on this planet or any other planet paid for early access, it's plainly a perk for pre-ordering the game.


In where I live, and I think most of the EU area, our consumer protection legislation does not allow free extras. Everything called "free extra" is treated as paid product if you had to pay to the seller in order to get that free extra, and the seller has same responsibilities about it as the seller would have with any other product they sell.

For those playing in EU area the early access was not free extra, it was part of the purchase just like 30 day access was.

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