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  Distopia

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4/03/14 3:04:05 PM#41
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
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To take it a step further, All the good things the game offers, can't be changed here either. Why bring them up?

Uhgg, I was referring to redundancy, Ie every single time the servers come down we see people raging about uk players can't play right now!...

Something we already know. No one can play right now...

 

Well, there is a point there. Mods do, after all, lock redundant threads

Doesn't stop redundant posts from flooding other threads though, my problem isn't with voicing the concern it's the inevitable fight about it that proceeds there after.

And if the question to that is well what about this or that topic, yes I too feel they have no place here if all it does is start a pointless fight.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Distopia

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4/03/14 3:05:21 PM#42
Originally posted by alterfenix
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
So not only do they have the EU servers in the US, but they also close them in the EU prime time... fuck you ZENIMAX.

Yeah we have to get used to only people without a work can play this game.

Yes they were down yesterday too, a bit later than today but still in the EU prime time... some early access this was.

Look I understand that you want to play, yet are we going to have to reads this post every-time they bring servers down? (dumb question i know)...

I just don't understand why people don't take this type of thing to the Oboards, It has no real value here. We can't do a thing about it.

We might if they learn people won`t take it.... the more people that are angry the bigger the chance the next MMO will do it during the morning/night when there are less people playing not during prime time.

If you don`t like it speak up and the next MMO who cares about customer feedback will no longer make this mistake. 

So some say with every MMO launch so far. And yeah, everything has changed.

Good point

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  BeansnBread

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4/03/14 3:06:13 PM#43
Originally posted by Distopia

Doesn't stop redundant posts from flooding threads though, my problem isn't with voicing the concern it's the inevitable fight about it that proceeds there after.

Come on... of all people, you, complaining about a fight. Every thread on this forum has some version of a "fight." That is the very nature of forums.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Distopia

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4/03/14 3:15:06 PM#44
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Originally posted by Distopia

Doesn't stop redundant posts from flooding threads though, my problem isn't with voicing the concern it's the inevitable fight about it that proceeds there after.

Come on... of all people, you, complaining about a fight. Every thread on this forum has some version of a "fight." That is the very nature of forums.

Some battles are better sought than others. Discussing the ins and outs of preference is one thing, fighting about where servers are located? What is the point? IN the former you're discussing each others preferences and how this or that effects the genre it can be compelling, that's not really the same thing as discussing something we have no control over. Would anyone here object to Zen moving the EU server to the EU? I can't see why anyone would, but that movement isn't going to begin here that's for certain. ALl that will come of it here is people saying stop whining... and of course those who attack those who say that.

 

 

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Manasong

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Posts: 198

P2P elitist

4/03/14 3:16:53 PM#45
Originally posted by rodarin
Originally posted by venats
 

I doubt anyone is lying, its more that those who got into the game early and managed to move through the phasing first avoided all the bugs that eventually crop up over time. I spent the first day tweaking my character and working on the crafting. By the time I got to adventuring I had to relog for just about every other quest and could not see a single working dark anchor.

Its been five days and I still haven't seen a working dark anchor. I even ran to one the moment it spawned and made that machine-noise, and it just sat there.

Yes that is a legit reason. But some people claim to have never ever had a single solitary issue with ESO in beta or now in early access, THOSE are the ones I was referring to as lying.  Because it is impossible to have put any time into this game at all and not seen more than a handful of issues. Of varying degrees to be sure.

 

That is another thing, sure "a lot' of other games have release with bugs. But there have really only been a handful of true AAA MMO releases the past 10 years. So the comparisons should stop there. And the bugs have to be taken in context. If theyre nearly or truly gamebreaking they go beyond the typical bugs people like to talk about with other games. This game has so many issues people dont even know where to start.

 

Like I said in a PvP focused game there are ZERO posts about PvP being imbalanced that tells yu the game has much deeper issues.

The game just started, how can we complain about balance if only the grinders and powerlevelers are max level?

  BeansnBread

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4/03/14 3:18:59 PM#46
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Originally posted by Distopia

Doesn't stop redundant posts from flooding threads though, my problem isn't with voicing the concern it's the inevitable fight about it that proceeds there after.

Come on... of all people, you, complaining about a fight. Every thread on this forum has some version of a "fight." That is the very nature of forums.

Some battles are better sought than others. Discussing the ins and outs of preference is one thing, fighting about where servers are located? What is the point? IN the former you're discussing each others preferences and how this or that effects the genre it can be compelling, that's not really the same thing as discussing something we have no control over. Would anyone here object to Zen moving the EU server to the EU? I can't see why anyone would, but that movement isn't going to begin here that's for certain. ALl that will come of it here is people saying stop whining... and of course those who attack those who say that.

How important these issues are is completely subjective. Obviously you don't feel like this is important enough. Obviously other people do. To try and diminish their perspective by dismissing it as something that can't be resolved through the forums and therefor should not be talked about is asinine.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Distopia

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4/03/14 3:24:10 PM#47
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Originally posted by Distopia

Doesn't stop redundant posts from flooding threads though, my problem isn't with voicing the concern it's the inevitable fight about it that proceeds there after.

Come on... of all people, you, complaining about a fight. Every thread on this forum has some version of a "fight." That is the very nature of forums.

Some battles are better sought than others. Discussing the ins and outs of preference is one thing, fighting about where servers are located? What is the point? IN the former you're discussing each others preferences and how this or that effects the genre it can be compelling, that's not really the same thing as discussing something we have no control over. Would anyone here object to Zen moving the EU server to the EU? I can't see why anyone would, but that movement isn't going to begin here that's for certain. ALl that will come of it here is people saying stop whining... and of course those who attack those who say that.

How important these issues are is completely subjective. Obviously you don't feel like this is important enough. Obviously other people do. To try and diminish their perspective by dismissing it as something that can't be resolved through the forums and therefor should not be talked about is asinine.

I never said "it should never be brought up" I asked if this is going to be an "every single time" kind of thing.

Anything can be asinine if you think of a way to present it as asinine. Like saying something no one ever said and presenting as something they did. I'm not trying to "takez awayz urz frreedomzz of speechez"

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
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4/03/14 3:24:31 PM#48
Originally posted by Manasong
Originally posted by rodarin
Originally posted by venats
 

I doubt anyone is lying, its more that those who got into the game early and managed to move through the phasing first avoided all the bugs that eventually crop up over time. I spent the first day tweaking my character and working on the crafting. By the time I got to adventuring I had to relog for just about every other quest and could not see a single working dark anchor.

Its been five days and I still haven't seen a working dark anchor. I even ran to one the moment it spawned and made that machine-noise, and it just sat there.

Yes that is a legit reason. But some people claim to have never ever had a single solitary issue with ESO in beta or now in early access, THOSE are the ones I was referring to as lying.  Because it is impossible to have put any time into this game at all and not seen more than a handful of issues. Of varying degrees to be sure.

 

That is another thing, sure "a lot' of other games have release with bugs. But there have really only been a handful of true AAA MMO releases the past 10 years. So the comparisons should stop there. And the bugs have to be taken in context. If theyre nearly or truly gamebreaking they go beyond the typical bugs people like to talk about with other games. This game has so many issues people dont even know where to start.

 

Like I said in a PvP focused game there are ZERO posts about PvP being imbalanced that tells yu the game has much deeper issues.

The game just started, how can we complain about balance if only the grinders and powerlevelers are max level?

That right there is another issue.

Shouldn't be anyone there at all.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Nebell

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Joined: 12/03/09
Posts: 31

4/03/14 3:24:38 PM#49
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
So not only do they have the EU servers in the US, but they also close them in the EU prime time... fuck you ZENIMAX.

 

  Amjoco

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4/03/14 3:26:28 PM#50
I think the older I get the more people become spoiled.   When we weren't allowed to spank kids anymore the entire system of life changed.

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  smokeybha

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4/03/14 3:28:09 PM#51

Lame

 

  Nyghthowler

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4/03/14 3:29:40 PM#52
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
So not only do they have the EU servers in the US, but they also close them in the EU prime time... fuck you ZENIMAX.

Yeah we have to get used to only people without a work can play this game.

If I remember correctly, you have been posting non-stop that you want a refund because you can't play the game....SO why are you Trolling here?

1. You have the right to shut the hell up.
2. You have the right to a opinion just as soon as I tell you what it is.
3. You have the right to die quietly or kicking and screaming. It doesn't really make a difference because you're dead either way.

  vmoped

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Posts: 1722

4/03/14 3:35:06 PM#53
[mod edit]

MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  Poachinator

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4/03/14 3:36:09 PM#54
Originally posted by rodarin

Just an excuse for them to bring down (reset) the server again. What are they going ot do for the 'official' launch. I suspect that 80-90% of anyone who is going to play this garbage has already bught it. Maybe even 95%. How many people do they realistically think will see all the shit that has happened with this game the past 4 months and thought... "yeah  I will buy it but not pre order it"? Not very many thats for sure. I also doubt they have copies flying off the shelves for a sub based PC MMO either. Might be different for consoles but not PC.

 

I have actually been waiting for someone to claim that early access was an old build and the REAL release is the actual up to date build. But I dont think even the biggest fanboy believes that. But I suspect some hope its partially true in the back of their minds.

 

The good news for some is that they can still get a refund for the next few hours. I have to suspect a lot of people have already done so, but once the 4th hits then youre stuck with it.

 

despite all the rah rah threads it very apparent the game is the exact same product as it was in beta. Some guys not getting any of the rampant bugs (lying about it) while the vast majority are getting the bugs. I also suspect the guys who lie would claim they never had the server go down on them either if they thought they could get a way with it.

 

The best one was the account breech, classic. Just another thing to add to the list of things this game has/had going against it.

[mod edit] The game is quite good and has been running well for 4 days now. Yes there was some down time, there always is but lets compare this to some other MMO releases here recently, its gone quite well indeed. I have run 4 characters up to 15-20. The bugs that were in the last beta are pretty much gone. One broke quest compared to about 20 that weekend for me. 

How many more people do you think will actually start new at launch? If any gamer was going to play this game they most likely have already started playing via either pre-order option. My guess is there won't be some gigantic swell that is going to make some major impact on the game overall. 

  Sternweather

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4/03/14 3:36:53 PM#55

Due to the issues with the phasing/quest mob spawns when there are a lot of players doing the quests,

I recommend that if you have early access, as soon as the servers come back up, you log on and push through until you are clear of the starter zones or you wait a few days until the initial rush of new players have cleared.

The spawning issues clear up right after a server reset/maintenance but start becoming a problem again after five or six hours.

If you're already in Cyrodill, you should be ok as Zenimax should have adapted to the higher population by the time they get to that level (or at least activated enough overflow servers to handle it).

 

  Amjoco

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4/03/14 3:57:38 PM#56
Originally posted by Poachinator
Originally posted by rodarin

Just an excuse for them to bring down (reset) the server again. What are they going ot do for the 'official' launch. I suspect that 80-90% of anyone who is going to play this garbage has already bught it. Maybe even 95%. How many people do they realistically think will see all the shit that has happened with this game the past 4 months and thought... "yeah  I will buy it but not pre order it"? Not very many thats for sure. I also doubt they have copies flying off the shelves for a sub based PC MMO either. Might be different for consoles but not PC.

 

I have actually been waiting for someone to claim that early access was an old build and the REAL release is the actual up to date build. But I dont think even the biggest fanboy believes that. But I suspect some hope its partially true in the back of their minds.

 

The good news for some is that they can still get a refund for the next few hours. I have to suspect a lot of people have already done so, but once the 4th hits then youre stuck with it.

 

despite all the rah rah threads it very apparent the game is the exact same product as it was in beta. Some guys not getting any of the rampant bugs (lying about it) while the vast majority are getting the bugs. I also suspect the guys who lie would claim they never had the server go down on them either if they thought they could get a way with it.

 

The best one was the account breech, classic. Just another thing to add to the list of things this game has/had going against it.

[mod edit] The game is quite good and has been running well for 4 days now. Yes there was some down time, there always is but lets compare this to some other MMO releases here recently, its gone quite well indeed. I have run 4 characters up to 15-20. The bugs that were in the last beta are pretty much gone. One broke quest compared to about 20 that weekend for me. 

How many more people do you think will actually start new at launch? If any gamer was going to play this game they most likely have already started playing via either pre-order option. My guess is there won't be some gigantic swell that is going to make some major impact on the game overall. 

According to The Tamriel Foundation, they did a survey. It isn't official but gives an idea of sales.

Imperial Edition Physical 15%

Imperial Edition Digital 61%

Standard Edition Physical 3.5%

Standard Edition Digital 22.5%

So, you are somewhat right. There will be more folks but not as many as some might think on an official launch.

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  Nyghthowler

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Posts: 150

4/03/14 3:58:42 PM#57
Originally posted by Sternweather

Due to the issues with the phasing/quest mob spawns when there are a lot of players doing the quests,

I recommend that if you have early access, as soon as the servers come back up, you log on and push through until you are clear of the starter zones or you wait a few days until the initial rush of new players have cleared.

The spawning issues clear up right after a server reset/maintenance but start becoming a problem again after five or six hours.

If you're already in Cyrodill, you should be ok as Zenimax should have adapted to the higher population by the time they get to that level (or at least activated enough overflow servers to handle it).

 

I'm 98% positive that the boss spawn issue during quests is caused because people are rude, inconsiderate ass-clowns.

They run up to the NPC to finish the quest. Upon seeing another player there  who has just caused the mob to spawn they KS said mob.

The game has flagged your toon as having completed that step, but gets confused because you didn't interact with it by either

A) Killing it

or

B) Dying and needing to get it to respawn .

 

Just my personal theory from having this exact scenario happen MULTIPLE times, requiring me to relog to get the npc to respawn the mob.

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2. You have the right to a opinion just as soon as I tell you what it is.
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  Arglebargle

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Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 1187

4/03/14 4:12:41 PM#58
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Poachinator
Originally posted by rodarin

Just an excuse for them to bring down (reset) the server again. What are they going ot do for the 'official' launch. I suspect that 80-90% of anyone who is going to play this garbage has already bught it. Maybe even 95%. How many people do they realistically think will see all the shit that has happened with this game the past 4 months and thought... "yeah  I will buy it but not pre order it"? Not very many thats for sure. I also doubt they have copies flying off the shelves for a sub based PC MMO either. Might be different for consoles but not PC.

 

I have actually been waiting for someone to claim that early access was an old build and the REAL release is the actual up to date build. But I dont think even the biggest fanboy believes that. But I suspect some hope its partially true in the back of their minds.

 

The good news for some is that they can still get a refund for the next few hours. I have to suspect a lot of people have already done so, but once the 4th hits then youre stuck with it.

 

despite all the rah rah threads it very apparent the game is the exact same product as it was in beta. Some guys not getting any of the rampant bugs (lying about it) while the vast majority are getting the bugs. I also suspect the guys who lie would claim they never had the server go down on them either if they thought they could get a way with it.

 

The best one was the account breech, classic. Just another thing to add to the list of things this game has/had going against it.

What a pile of shit this post is. The game is quite good and has been running well for 4 days now. Yes there was some down time, there always is but lets compare this to some other MMO releases here recently, its gone quite well indeed. I have run 4 characters up to 15-20. The bugs that were in the last beta are pretty much gone. One broke quest compared to about 20 that weekend for me. 

How many more people do you think will actually start new at launch? If any gamer was going to play this game they most likely have already started playing via either pre-order option. My guess is there won't be some gigantic swell that is going to make some major impact on the game overall. 

According to The Tamriel Foundation, they did a survey. It isn't official but gives an idea of sales.

Imperial Edition Physical 15%

Imperial Edition Digital 61%

Standard Edition Physical 3.5%

Standard Edition Digital 22.5%

So, you are somewhat right. There will be more folks but not as many as some might think on an official launch.

IIRC, the number of sales of GW2 during the first week after launch was fairly large, which had not been predicted.   I know that a friend saw us playing ESO yesterday, and rushed out to buy it.  There will most likely be an envelope of purchases similar to that. 

 

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  Iselin

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Posts: 4155

4/03/14 4:18:51 PM#59
Originally posted by rodarin
Originally posted by Gravarg
The more pissed off people are about the game being down, shows just how good this game really is :D

Nah people feel like theyre paying for it now, so they have spent 80 bux and want to get the most out of it before they actually have to pay a sub, which most wont do. So therefore they want as much for that 80 bucks as they can get. But really for an 80 dollar CE people should get at least 60 if not 90 days access anyway. Pretty sure every CE I bought came with 90 days.

i'm pretty sure that whenever you say you're pretty sure about something you're just making it up.

  Slackker

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Joined: 8/26/04
Posts: 225

4/03/14 4:25:01 PM#60

I've only had to relog for two quests so far. I have no idea if this is the same build or a different build than in beta, if they had another prepared, etc. And I don't care. Frankly, I only care about my gaming experience - and when able to play it has been nearly flawless - and the community has been pretty helpful, turning back in dungeons to help others with groups of mobs, random teaming, etc.

 

That, and Zenimax just announced they're extending early access until Sunday before they have to transition to live. I would assume, but am not certain, this stops your 30-day timer from starting. So, good job all around. They've been listening to the community. I haven't always liked the result (backtracking to starter island, rather than putting you there and letting you skip it) but I do feel as though they're listening. Unfortunately, a vocal minority is louder than a silent majority - much like in politics. Listening too much can quickly derail things.

-Slackker

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