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  hail2dathief

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4/03/14 8:50:13 AM#21
Yeah I'm totally fine with not having chat bubbles at all.  They are annoying and besides, if you type anything longer than a sentence it just gets cut off in the bubble and you have to look at your chat box anyways.  Name plates i don't really care either way but i've been able to determine players from npc's without much of a problem, so i'm fine without them too, makes the game much cleaner to me.

  strangepowers

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4/03/14 8:53:15 AM#22


Originally posted by Xasapis Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.   I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.
Holy cow, it's not like you couldn't look at the clock in the room , a phone or even a watch... It's not a shortcoming, it's a design with immersion in mind. If you want to know what time it is in the real world it should not be too much to actually visit the real world every once in a while.

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  Kyarra

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4/03/14 8:54:39 AM#23
Originally posted by Rusque

No thanks. Chat bubbles can go to the hell.

 

This is what every game with chat bubbles looks like to me.

I laughed at this picture, I loved Ragnorok Online but this was just people that had stores open not really chat bubbles that disappear eventually. I really do miss having nameplates the most though. I love to remember people I run across and I do that by seeing their names. We do need that back ( I was one of those in the "real beta" who remember them having it in. At least give us the choice for nameplates!

  immodium

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4/03/14 9:02:12 AM#24
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
I thought Zeni devs said the chat bubbles and name plates kill the FPS (frames per second) in the game. The engine is optimized without those things. Don't ask me how this is an issue. 

Anything that has to be redered by the client, even if you have the option off, still needs to get loaded by the client/your pc. With potentially 100s of players on the screen at once, this could be a very big issue regardless of the engine. 

BTW, SWTOR not only used a very early version of the hero engine, but they also used a heavily modified one. 

BTW supposedly ESO doesn't use the hero engine

 

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx

Zenimax did use the Hero engine early on for test purposes. People are just mis-informed when they state ESO is using the Hero engine now.

  Grixxitt

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4/03/14 9:27:29 AM#25

Nameplates are un-displayable due to the changes with the API.

 

However...

 

Subtitles - http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info14-Subtitles.html

 

Clock - http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info70-SimpleClock.html

 

Toolbars, Buffs, etc.- http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info8-WykkydsFramework.html

 Combat/Ability/Buff/Target info - http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info28-FoundryTacticalCombat.html

 

 

...there's mods for most things. 

If you wish, you can totally jazz up your'e UI to look like WoW or whatever game you're used to

The minimilist UI is pure Elder Scrolls, and is what gamers were shouting for in the early stages of beta, so what you see in-game is a direct case of gamers getting exactly what they want from developers.

 

 

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  Aeonblades

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4/03/14 9:28:53 AM#26
Originally posted by Kyleran
About that,you're going to have to learn to adapt to the UI, these are intentional design decisions and not accidental overlooks.

 

+1

Stop looking for a hand to hold and get out there and adventure without having every bit of knowledge available to you. It's kind of the point of these types of games.

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  SmarnyPete

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4/03/14 9:30:14 AM#27
Originally posted by strangepowers

 


Originally posted by Xasapis Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.   I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.
Holy cow, it's not like you couldn't look at the clock in the room , a phone or even a watch... It's not a shortcoming, it's a design with immersion in mind. If you want to know what time it is in the real world it should not be too much to actually visit the real world every once in a while.

 

Ha, I have a phone next to my PC, time on the cable box, clock, wife telling me how long I've been on and when I'm stopping. I have zeo problems knowing how long I've been playing, and everybody in TS mentioning the time and when they are logging.. Can't play with a watch on. Bugs me.

 

  Aeonblades

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4/03/14 9:31:49 AM#28
Originally posted by Xasapis

Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.

 

I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.

Um...there is a clock in the top left hand corner, every time you do anything involving the map or inventory. Dunno why you are alt tabbing to check the time.

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  Vannor

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4/03/14 9:32:38 AM#29

I thought the same at first but, let me tell you, once you've played awhile you realise you actually know the areas, the people, the merchants.. all the locations... everything you need.. off the top of your head... just like we do in real life.

No hand holding means you learn not to need your hand held. Makes everyone a better gamer. Stick with it, you'll do fine.

  Waldoe

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4/03/14 9:33:53 AM#30
I love that they do not have either. It keeps with the theme of a very clean UI. I don't need every ounce of my screen filled up with shit that is not the game world itself. It really adds to the immersion factor that I can focus on the world they created instead of looking at bars, add-ons, markers on NPCs, floating text etc.
  Geebus80

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4/03/14 9:35:29 AM#31
immensely trivial reason to not a play a game. Most do not want to trade immersion for saturday morning cartoon based features, it was a good choice for any game trying to retain realism and or immersion.
  Ekadd

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4/03/14 9:37:19 AM#32
Originally posted by Xasapis

Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.

 

I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.

Theres clock, mini map and many helpfull add-ons for EsO.. 

  Vannor

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4/03/14 9:40:55 AM#33
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by Xasapis

Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.

I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.

Theres clock, mini map and many helpfull add-ons for EsO.. 

I got the minimap.. then I disabled it. It totally ruined the game.. I was just checking the minimap all the time instead of looking at the actual world. Then, when I tried to force myself to use the minimap less, I had no clue where I was.. whereas before using it I learned everything by heart. My advice? Using the minimap makes you dumb.. like literally makes you need the minimap by using the minimap. It also breaks immersion. Don't use it, you'll miss seeing half the game.

  Distopia

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4/03/14 9:44:19 AM#34
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Xasapis

Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.

 

I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.

Um...there is a clock in the top left hand corner, every time you do anything involving the map or inventory. Dunno why you are alt tabbing to check the time.

I was wondering the same thing.

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  R.Lima

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4/03/14 9:57:14 AM#35
I absolutely applaud ZeniMax Online for sticking to the roots of the Elder Scrolls series by maintaining a very clear screen, devoid of clutter from UI elements, greatly emphasizing the world itself. This is largely what makes this an authentic Elder Scrolls game. It seems you want things that can be found in other MMO's, like WoW. If you "can't play this game without nameplates/chat bubbles", I suggest you look elsewhere. I'm not sure why you would think an Elder Scrolls title would be like WoW and not like, well, an Elder Scrolls title.
  alterfenix

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4/03/14 10:01:14 AM#36
Originally posted by Xasapis

Personally, I would like to see a simple clock in a corner somewhere. Alt-tabbing all the time to see how much time I've spent is annoying.

 

I suppose Bethesda expects the community to fix any shortcomings with their UI, the same way the community did with all their games.

Press M and in the corner there is a clock.

OP, I can agree with subtitles and bubbles as optional setting but as for nameplates being mandatory... No idea what it is but you should put it away even if it tastes well;-)

  SomeOldBloke

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4/03/14 10:07:41 AM#37
Originally posted by unclemo
No thanks to nameplates and chat bubbles. They are immersion breaking.

I feel the same, first thing I turn off in any MMO I play.

  Scot

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4/03/14 10:19:57 AM#38

Constantly they go on about your choices when making a MMO. So having the choice to pick them would be great! I understand nametags were there in Alpha, then removed. Bringing them back wold be easy.

  xpiher

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4/03/14 11:25:25 AM#39
Originally posted by Scot

Constantly they go on about your choices when making a MMO. So having the choice to pick them would be great! I understand nametags were there in Alpha, then removed. Bringing them back wold be easy.

Bringing them back would be easy, making them not affect performance is not. 


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  mustang2750

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4/03/14 12:29:06 PM#40
I do not want chat bubbles whatsoever however nameplates ARE A MUST. It's very hard to have a.fun communicative community when you can't tell who is who, can't determine NPC from player, and can't recognize players by name or guild.

This was the highlight of DAOC's great community and needs to be implemented as an option.
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