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  achesoma

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Posts: 965

4/02/14 10:39:01 AM#81
I didn't have items "appear" but a few of my crafted items disappeared yesterday.  I guess this explains it. It sucks because tannins are a bitch to come by.  It would be nice if they could at least restore my tannins if anything else. 

  User Deleted
4/02/14 10:42:39 AM#82


Fanboys: Blind fanaticism or mentally challenged?

Not sure how anyone could consider players randomly logging into and having full access to other players characters a minor bug or the fault of the users.  In over 15 years of MMOs I haven't seen anything quite at this level of incompetency. 

  orionblack

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4/02/14 10:45:22 AM#83
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by kabitoshin
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Originally posted by Daxamar

Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs.

I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course.

I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always.

I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!

Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.

From my understanding it was players logging onto other players characters, not logging onto their actual accounts with all their info.

This is correct the players are logging in and getting access to another players character.

The empty bank or bank with items different than yours is the variation of the same issue - you log in with your charactet but are accessing another characters bank (which might be empty thus appearing like you are missing items).

 

Ahh so is that why they disabled mailing right now you think?

  Bigdaddyx

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Posts: 2047

4/02/14 10:46:31 AM#84
Originally posted by evilastro


Fanboys: Blind fanaticism or mentally challenged?

Not sure how anyone could consider players randomly logging into and having full access to other players characters a minor bug or the fault of the users.  In over 15 years of MMOs I haven't seen anything quite at this level of incompetency. 

Hahah..so true. But are you surprised? Fans have always been blaming the players for incompetency of game devs. It goes for every MMO.

  kaiser3282

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Joined: 5/21/08
Posts: 2699

4/02/14 10:47:34 AM#85
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by DMKano

So the game has been down for over 7 hours now, but that's not the worst of it.

Reading reports were players were gaining access to other players characters, that's just heartbreaking.

This is why the servers are still down - it's an absolute showstopper, this has to get sorted out.

I can't imagine the scrambling and work that's been going on by Zenimax staff these last 7 hours - ouch

 

I expect there will be a rollback, but only after they identify (and fix)  this security flaw (most likely on the platform side).

So my hat's off to zenimax guys and gals who've been working on this all night so that we have a fun and secure game to play.

Stop making passwords like 123456 and qwerty ok nubs. Game is great btw. Ignore the doomsayers.

You are failing to understand the basic problem:

1. You log in with your username and password

2. You select your character on character select screen

3. You enter game and you are NOT your character - you are playing someone else's character, talking as them and having access to their inventory in bank!

 

It has NOTHING to do with weak passwords .

When I log in...I log into my account ,with my character. I am in 5 guilds with hundreds of people each. Why then is this the first I am hearing of this? Because it is a myth made up under some bridge.

You login when? You mean when you logged in BEFORE the issue even started. You know, right before the server went down for maintenance which it is STILL down for?

servers down no one at all can log in to theirs or anyone elses. and with all the 1000's of people that I know playing this is the first time hearing of it , clearly a lie gg troll

Are you special or something? Yes, clearly I'm a lying troll and I made up the entire NA server downtime myself and got all these other dozens of people to lie about it too. Hell I even got Zenimax employees themselves to lie about it on their own forums and got one of the devs to change the login screen to give people a fake message saying the game is down for maintenance...

You are a troll plain and simple, and yes it is made up. The fact that it IS down for maintenance is the only truth you speak .the rest is fail troll garbage.

Its official 

Read ZOS official response - I updated my OP.

The issue is *acknowledged* by Zenimax.

 

Last night a few North American users reported inventory-related issues with their character account, such as seeing additional inventory items appear, or seeing items that were not earned through gameplay. We've identified and fixed the problem, but the issue necessitated some downtime overnight for the North American megaserver. This problem has not manifested on the European server, so it continues to run as normal. The fix will be implemented as soon as all required pre-testing is complete this morning.

We were already planning to push a new game build to both servers this morning, and we will continue to work towards this. Stay tuned for complete patch note shortly. In addition to this aforementioned priority fix, we are also working quickly to restore our 'send in-game mail' functionality, some content blocking fixes that are preventing some users from finishing quests, and a few other tweaks. Our goal is to have all of these fixes initiated later this morning, eastern US time.

We will update this post as soon as we have an exact timeline for the service to be restored.


Link to ZOS responce here.

Come on now Kano. We all know that was just me logging in on my fake Zenimax staff account posting that troll stuff!

  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3344

4/02/14 10:48:36 AM#86
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by DMKano

So the game has been down for over 7 hours now, but that's not the worst of it.

Reading reports were players were gaining access to other players characters, that's just heartbreaking.

This is why the servers are still down - it's an absolute showstopper, this has to get sorted out.

I can't imagine the scrambling and work that's been going on by Zenimax staff these last 7 hours - ouch

 

I expect there will be a rollback, but only after they identify (and fix)  this security flaw (most likely on the platform side).

So my hat's off to zenimax guys and gals who've been working on this all night so that we have a fun and secure game to play.

Stop making passwords like 123456 and qwerty ok nubs. Game is great btw. Ignore the doomsayers.

You are failing to understand the basic problem:

1. You log in with your username and password

2. You select your character on character select screen

3. You enter game and you are NOT your character - you are playing someone else's character, talking as them and having access to their inventory in bank!

 

It has NOTHING to do with weak passwords .

When I log in...I log into my account ,with my character. I am in 5 guilds with hundreds of people each. Why then is this the first I am hearing of this? Because it is a myth made up under some bridge.

You login when? You mean when you logged in BEFORE the issue even started. You know, right before the server went down for maintenance which it is STILL down for?

servers down no one at all can log in to theirs or anyone elses. and with all the 1000's of people that I know playing this is the first time hearing of it , clearly a lie gg troll

Are you special or something? Yes, clearly I'm a lying troll and I made up the entire NA server downtime myself and got all these other dozens of people to lie about it too. Hell I even got Zenimax employees themselves to lie about it on their own forums and got one of the devs to change the login screen to give people a fake message saying the game is down for maintenance...

You are a troll plain and simple, and yes it is made up. The fact that it IS down for maintenance is the only truth you speak .the rest is fail troll garbage.

Everyone should just ignore this guy. He's either a rapid fanboy or a troll (I'm going with the latter). Everyone should also be aware that Zenimax acknowledge the account login issues. 


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  xpiher

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4/02/14 10:50:14 AM#87
Originally posted by orionblack
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by kabitoshin
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Originally posted by Daxamar

Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs.

I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course.

I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always.

I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!

Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.

From my understanding it was players logging onto other players characters, not logging onto their actual accounts with all their info.

This is correct the players are logging in and getting access to another players character.

The empty bank or bank with items different than yours is the variation of the same issue - you log in with your charactet but are accessing another characters bank (which might be empty thus appearing like you are missing items).

 

Ahh so is that why they disabled mailing right now you think?

No, they disabled the mailing system because it was being used to dupe items. You would think after 10years of the same issues happening and being well documented that games wouldn't release with these problem 


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Warhammer - Xpiher

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4261

4/02/14 10:50:19 AM#88
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Originally posted by Daxamar

Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs.

I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course.

I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always.

I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!

Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.

Do you have a checklist or guideline for launch issue problems we could look at? An issue is an issue imho. It will be fixed and forgotten, just as GW2 had issues with logging in, and so many other title releases had problems and fixed. 

Gw2 was literally DDoSed with incoming connections. The login issues also were affecting only a fraction of the population, not entire continent. Also I'm pretty sure the account hijack is a result of a larger hack. As you can see the EU cluster is having no issues at all. So yeah, go hate somewhere else. Gw2 had a perfect launch compared to TESO. And both datacenters weren't located in NA. 

The general interest in ESO is far lesser. 

Oh my goodness. I'm not hating on anything, in fact I love GW2. I was just commenting that all games have issues on release. For the love of god, you guys need to look into something and try and comprehend it before commenting. 

I was there for GW2s launch, it wasn't as pretty as you are making it out to be either. http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/08/25/guild-wars-2-is-off-to-a-bumpy-start/

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  Bigdaddyx

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Posts: 2047

4/02/14 10:50:58 AM#89
Originally posted by xpiher
 

Everyone should just ignore this guy. He's either a rapid fanboy or a troll (I'm going with the latter). Everyone should also be aware that Zenimax acknowledge the account login issues. 

I agree he is clearly not the sharpest tool in the tool box.

  User Deleted
4/02/14 11:00:59 AM#90
Originally posted by ESOldier
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by xpiher
 

Everyone should just ignore this guy. He's either a rapid fanboy or a troll (I'm going with the latter). Everyone should also be aware that Zenimax acknowledge the account login issues. 

I agree he is clearly not the sharpest tool in the tool box.

Last night a few North American users reported inventory-related issues with their character account, such as seeing additional inventory items appear, or seeing items that were not earned through gameplay. We've identified and fixed the problem, but the issue necessitated some downtime overnight for the North American megaserver. This problem has not manifested on the European server, so it continues to run as normal. The fix will be implemented as soon as all required pre-testing is complete this morning.

We were already planning to push a new game build to both servers this morning, and we will continue to work towards this. Stay tuned for complete patch note shortly. In addition to this aforementioned priority fix, we are also working quickly to restore our 'send in-game mail' functionality, some content blocking fixes that are preventing some users from finishing quests, and a few other tweaks. Our goal is to have all of these fixes initiated later this morning, eastern US time.

We will update this post as soon as we have an exact timeline for the service to be restored.

wow! how does that translate to other people logging into others accounts? hmmn just sayin.

 

Zenimax are obviously not telling the whole story in their official statement. Players have pictures of them logging into other peoples accounts using their own details.

Do you really think the servers would be down this long for a few people getting additional items? Who would even report that they were getting extra items?  Obviously the people losing items did the reporting.

  Soraksis

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4/02/14 11:03:48 AM#91

You know after all these bugs and what not I am still loving this game and having a blast.  I have yet to encounter anything that I would consider game breaking.  I understand that there are tens of millions of lines of code and there are bound to be errors.  I have never expected an MMO to work 100% right out of the box because I understand that its man made so there will be flaws and errors and it will break.  Nothing man made is perfect or ever will be perfect all we can hope for is the people involved will work hard to correct as many issues as they can when they can. 

Of course I go into these things with a different mind set than many others it seems from reading the various posts here.  I go into it thinking its just a game its for fun and its not in any way shape or form life changing if it doesn't work perfectly right away.  I spent my money knowing that it will have bugs and they will suck sometimes but they can be fixed and they will be if your patient.  These bugs in game will not make you sick,  they wont have sex with your wife,  they will not hurt your kids,  and they wont cost you your job, so all in all they aren't that big of a deal.  I am sorry if they are too much for you it sucks but everyone has a different tolerance level, for me I am having way too much fun to quit over a few bugs that are being fixed. 

 

  Muke

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4/02/14 11:04:22 AM#92

So we have a new MMO launch not going 100% perfect, that people have been powergrinding to max level in 1 hour, players exploiting with ingame markets and money and what more, many bugs ingame, instability.....and players complaining that the game is a failure.

 

 

What a shocker.

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  Viper482

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4/02/14 11:04:33 AM#93
Originally posted by DMKano

So the game has been down for over 7 hours now, but that's not the worst of it.

Reading reports were players were gaining access to other players characters, that's just heartbreaking.

This is why the servers are still down - it's an absolute showstopper, this has to get sorted out.

I can't imagine the scrambling and work that's been going on by Zenimax staff these last 7 hours - ouch

 

I expect there will be a rollback, but only after they identify (and fix)  this security flaw (most likely on the platform side).

So my hat's off to zenimax guys and gals who've been working on this all night so that we have a fun and secure game to play.

 

 


 

 

 

Your "hat is off" to the people who were inept enough to let this happen in the first place? The hell with that, should have never happened.

  Jackdog

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4/02/14 11:07:17 AM#94

Just me but I am more concerned over whether the game can hold my attention for more than a month or two than anthing that happens in the first week or two of launch

even if my toons were wiped after 4  or 5 hours of play time it would still be diddly shit in the big picture. Some of the drama queens here need to get a dose of reality and perspective. Take a walk or something, it a frigging digital game and will not amount to a mosquito bite on a elephants butt in importance in your real life

I miss DAoC

  Amjoco

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4/02/14 11:10:16 AM#95
Originally posted by Viper482
Originally posted by DMKano

So the game has been down for over 7 hours now, but that's not the worst of it.

Reading reports were players were gaining access to other players characters, that's just heartbreaking.

This is why the servers are still down - it's an absolute showstopper, this has to get sorted out.

I can't imagine the scrambling and work that's been going on by Zenimax staff these last 7 hours - ouch

 

I expect there will be a rollback, but only after they identify (and fix)  this security flaw (most likely on the platform side).

So my hat's off to zenimax guys and gals who've been working on this all night so that we have a fun and secure game to play.

 

 


 

 

 

Your "hat is off" to the people who were inept enough to let this happen in the first place? The hell with that, should have never happened.

Nope, and every other release in history should go like a swiss pocket watch, but they don't. 

Folks need to use common sense.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  LuposDavalte

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4/02/14 11:11:06 AM#96

Can someone link to some actual proof this account issue has happened?

Also to the OP, I doubt there will be a global rollback, would be terrible for PR when saving is isolated at a character level.  1. Identify impacted characters. 2 Restore impacted characters to a previous save state.  

I'm involved in a number of extremely large guilds and hadn't once heard about this happening to anyone in my immediate circles.

This is massive if it is true, but I can't help but feel someone is having an April Fools chuckle at Zenimax's expense.

  Amjoco

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4/02/14 11:12:58 AM#97
Originally posted by Jackdog

Just me but I am more concerned over whether the game can hold my attention for more than a month or two than anthing that happens in the first week or two of launch

even if my toons were wiped after 4  or 5 hours of play time it would still be diddly shit in the big picture. Some of the drama queens here need to get a dose of reality and perspective. Take a walk or something, it a frigging digital game and will not amount to a mosquito bite on a elephants butt in importance in your real life

It's a game to have fun with! :) For some reason folks have found a way to use it as a tool to try and make others feel bad.  A long walk and some inner soul searching would be my advice too.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Arndush

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4/02/14 11:14:08 AM#98
Originally posted by ESOldier
Originally posted by Soraksis

You know after all these bugs and what not I am still loving this game and having a blast.  I have yet to encounter anything that I would consider game breaking.  I understand that there are tens of millions of lines of code and there are bound to be errors.  I have never expected an MMO to work 100% right out of the box because I understand that its man made so there will be flaws and errors and it will break.  Nothing man made is perfect or ever will be perfect all we can hope for is the people involved will work hard to correct as many issues as they can when they can. 

Of course I go into these things with a different mind set than many others it seems from reading the various posts here.  I go into it thinking its just a game its for fun and its not in any way shape or form life changing if it doesn't work perfectly right away.  I spent my money knowing that it will have bugs and they will suck sometimes but they can be fixed and they will be if your patient.  These bugs in game will not make you sick,  they wont have sex with your wife,  they will not hurt your kids,  and they wont cost you your job, so all in all they aren't that big of a deal.  I am sorry if they are too much for you it sucks but everyone has a different tolerance level, for me I am having way too much fun to quit over a few bugs that are being fixed. 

 

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+1

  Iselin

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4/02/14 11:15:26 AM#99
Originally posted by DMKano
 

What a mess.

 

That's quite the understatement. Let's say it like it really is: It's a catasfuckingtrophic problem.

 

I can't believe some people were giving you shit for drama. 

  Nadia

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4/02/14 11:17:51 AM#100
Originally posted by Ticonz
Originally posted by DMKano

The security breach in Rift didn't happen at launch.

It happened 6 months post launch.

Mmmhmmmm. 

the coin lock patch was added during the first 2 weeks of RIFT launch month

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/03/18/rift-adds-coin-lock-to-improve-security-probably/

 

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