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  MikeJezZ

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4/02/14 8:32:55 AM#41
Originally posted by rojo6934
pre-ordering for early access doesn't mean you will be playing during early access. They just didn't mention that part.

Yeah. Would have appreciated if they said

 

"Pre order and win the chance to Play early access by receiving one Lottery ticket today!"

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  Aroukos

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4/02/14 8:33:15 AM#42
Originally posted by Stiles223

Ugh, sorry to those affected!! This would seriously bum me out :(

Glad I held out on buying a beta test product before the launch. I'll continue with my "wait and see" stance. In the meantime keep testing the game for me and I hope it gets stable soon!!

 

Hahahahah ^^

  makasouleater69

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4/02/14 8:37:37 AM#43
Originally posted by Daxamar

Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs.

I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course.

I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always.

I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!

Well daxamar, I expect that no one but me get access to my account. I mean they banned me for something i didnt do, because, they cant even make a secure way to log in. Ill see how much you love this when some one takes your account and you get banned. Then they tell you sorry no help for you.

  xpiher

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4/02/14 8:40:37 AM#44
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

Just came out fresh from twitter :D 

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/introducing-the-megaserver-system/

wtflol xD Guess that's going to be megaserver done right :P 

They're doing this because some of the servers are quite barren...especially the low level areas.

Kind of off topic since this is an ESO thread.  Maybe you meant to go to the GW2 forums?

 

They are doing this because it should have been done in the first place. They already had over flow system working like this, maybe it was hard for them to code the WvW campeigns properly or maybe it wasn't possible with the tech they had at the time? 


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  xpiher

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4/02/14 8:41:31 AM#45
Originally posted by gringemore
Originally posted by DMKano

So the game has been down for over 7 hours now, but that's not the worst of it.

Reading reports were players were gaining access to other players characters, that's just heartbreaking.

This is why the servers are still down - it's an absolute showstopper, this has to get sorted out.

I can't imagine the scrambling and work that's been going on by Zenimax staff these last 7 hours - ouch

 

I expect there will be a rollback, but only after they identify (and fix)  this security flaw (most likely on the platform side).

So my hat's off to zenimax guys and gals who've been working on this all night so that we have a fun and secure game to play.

Stop making passwords like 123456 ok nubs. Game is great btw. Ignore the doomsayers.

You must be trolling or you really are a blind fanboy. 


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  Sk1ppeR

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4/02/14 8:45:07 AM#46
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

Originally posted by Amjoco

Originally posted by DSWBeef

Originally posted by Daxamar Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs. I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course. I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always. I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!
Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.
Do you have a checklist or guideline for launch issue problems we could look at? An issue is an issue imho. It will be fixed and forgotten, just as GW2 had issues with logging in, and so many other title releases had problems and fixed. 
Gw2 was literally DDoSed with incoming connections. The login issues also were affecting only a fraction of the population, not entire continent. Also I'm pretty sure the account hijack is a result of a larger hack. As you can see the EU cluster is having no issues at all. So yeah, go hate somewhere else. Gw2 had a perfect launch compared to TESO. And both datacenters weren't located in NA. 

 

The general interest in ESO is far lesser. 


 

are u just here to defend GW2? if so many more people play GW2 why do you seem to be so threatened by ESO?

go play GW2 and be happy that it's supposedly such a better and more popular game than ESO.

the my game vs your game mentality is sooo annoying.

 

It's funny you should say that because I see you write in most Gw2 threads, mostly in negative way. I actually fixed your opinion for you and you never responded me in one of those threads. You were, as usual, talking things you have no knowledge about. 

Also I'm not here to defend, just to set things straight, because I see all you whiteknights just love to spew shit about Gw2 and you are obviously mistaken. Sorry if you feel offended :) Don't take it so personally.

And yeah I enjoy playing my game, its just I'm currently at work. Got a scheduled guild WvW event. Cool stuff. Do you think you will be able to play by the end of the day? *troll* 

As an owner and player of GW2, I can say that they had many many issues at launch.

Server crashes, login failures, people being hacked, botters botters botters, gold spammers were outnumbering players (exaggeration but not entirely off base), instancing issues galore, lag, lag, more lag, dynamic events bugged, quests bugged, falling through the world, ANet banned people for buying items in game, server crashes (wrote this one twice because it did happen a bit on those first few days), etc. etc.

I'm only stating all of this because you're acting like GW2 was so much better.  It literally took them MONTHS to fix a  majority of these issues..some of which still exist.

With all that said, I still like GW2.  It's fun at times.  Again, I'm only posting this because there seemed to be some confusion regarding the state of GW2 at launch.

As an owner of pre-ordered collector's edition AND digital deluxe I can tell you that I had no single outage in my game. In fact in the first week I became lvl 80, fully geared in the 3rd and had 100% map exploration within the end of month 3 post launch. Do you think I could've done that in a broken game?

Also you are using wrong terms. Nobody got "hacked". People just never learn to use different and/or unique passwords for their accounts. If your password is "123456" or "qwerty" or "password" you are just asking for it. 

Also its funny you refer to quests, while Gw2 has no quest system. If you refer to the personal story line, I reached lvl 80 by defeating Zhaitan, back then the fight took me 4 hours in my blue gear Q_Q Maybe the whole encounter was harder, idk.

Also ANet banned those people because they were exploting. ANet is still the standard of how you should house an online game. So many botters and exploiters said bye-bye to Tyria thanks to Gw2's banhammer. I expect no less from Zenimax. 

I've never ridiculed ESO on gold spammers because those guys are in every MMO. Then again gold spam ended a week or two after launch, idk why you said months.

The only thing that took 2 months to get fixed was the trading post. In that time my girlfriend had abyss dye drop and used because neither of us thought its going to be so expensive. Oh well xD 

I do not know where you are from, Australia or New Zealand, I've never had lag at launch. And I took 2 weeks off work to take my time with Gw2. Yeah they even launched 3 hours before the announcement time, to reduce load. I was there ^^ And some douchebag still managed to steal my charname >.> 

But yeah tl;dr; Gw2's launch compared to TESO was perfect. I don't remember a 7 hour outage. I just don't. 

 

Also, why do you think ESO launched with "megaserver" in the first place? It will just prolong the subscription play instead of being forced to go F2P by the playerbase because of low numbers. Such things are annoying, especially in huge worlds like ESO's. This way they can make a game seem alive even with 10,000 players, or less. From what I saw in Cyrodill, there were only a handful of shards to play for. 

  gringemore

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4/02/14 8:48:53 AM#47
Actually, I like the game, nubbytits
  MikeJezZ

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4/02/14 8:49:44 AM#48
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR 

But yeah tl;dr; Gw2's launch compared to TESO was perfect. I don't remember a 7 hour outage. I just don't. 

I could even login during launch. Here it just says my login or password is wrong...

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  xpiher

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4/02/14 8:52:38 AM#49
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  Azzras

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4/02/14 8:52:56 AM#50
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

Originally posted by Amjoco

Originally posted by DSWBeef

Originally posted by Daxamar Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs. I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course. I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always. I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!
Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.
Do you have a checklist or guideline for launch issue problems we could look at? An issue is an issue imho. It will be fixed and forgotten, just as GW2 had issues with logging in, and so many other title releases had problems and fixed. 
Gw2 was literally DDoSed with incoming connections. The login issues also were affecting only a fraction of the population, not entire continent. Also I'm pretty sure the account hijack is a result of a larger hack. As you can see the EU cluster is having no issues at all. So yeah, go hate somewhere else. Gw2 had a perfect launch compared to TESO. And both datacenters weren't located in NA. 

 

The general interest in ESO is far lesser. 


 

are u just here to defend GW2? if so many more people play GW2 why do you seem to be so threatened by ESO?

go play GW2 and be happy that it's supposedly such a better and more popular game than ESO.

the my game vs your game mentality is sooo annoying.

 

It's funny you should say that because I see you write in most Gw2 threads, mostly in negative way. I actually fixed your opinion for you and you never responded me in one of those threads. You were, as usual, talking things you have no knowledge about. 

Also I'm not here to defend, just to set things straight, because I see all you whiteknights just love to spew shit about Gw2 and you are obviously mistaken. Sorry if you feel offended :) Don't take it so personally.

And yeah I enjoy playing my game, its just I'm currently at work. Got a scheduled guild WvW event. Cool stuff. Do you think you will be able to play by the end of the day? *troll* 

As an owner and player of GW2, I can say that they had many many issues at launch.

Server crashes, login failures, people being hacked, botters botters botters, gold spammers were outnumbering players (exaggeration but not entirely off base), instancing issues galore, lag, lag, more lag, dynamic events bugged, quests bugged, falling through the world, ANet banned people for buying items in game, server crashes (wrote this one twice because it did happen a bit on those first few days), etc. etc.

I'm only stating all of this because you're acting like GW2 was so much better.  It literally took them MONTHS to fix a  majority of these issues..some of which still exist.

With all that said, I still like GW2.  It's fun at times.  Again, I'm only posting this because there seemed to be some confusion regarding the state of GW2 at launch.

As an owner of pre-ordered collector's edition AND digital deluxe I can tell you that I had no single outage in my game. In fact in the first week I became lvl 80, fully geared in the 3rd and had 100% map exploration within the end of month 3 post launch. Do you think I could've done that in a broken game?

Also you are using wrong terms. Nobody got "hacked". People just never learn to use different and/or unique passwords for their accounts. If your password is "123456" or "qwerty" or "password" you are just asking for it. 

Also its funny you refer to quests, while Gw2 has no quest system. If you refer to the personal story line, I reached lvl 80 by defeating Zhaitan, back then the fight took me 4 hours in my blue gear Q_Q Maybe the whole encounter was harder, idk.

Also ANet banned those people because they were exploting. ANet is still the standard of how you should house an online game. So many botters and exploiters said bye-bye to Tyria thanks to Gw2's banhammer. I expect no less from Zenimax. 

I've never ridiculed ESO on gold spammers because those guys are in every MMO. Then again gold spam ended a week or two after launch, idk why you said months.

The only thing that took 2 months to get fixed was the trading post. In that time my girlfriend had abyss dye drop and used because neither of us thought its going to be so expensive. Oh well xD 

I do not know where you are from, Australia or New Zealand, I've never had lag at launch. And I took 2 weeks off work to take my time with Gw2. Yeah they even launched 3 hours before the announcement time, to reduce load. I was there ^^ And some douchebag still managed to steal my charname >.> 

But yeah tl;dr; Gw2's launch compared to TESO was perfect. I don't remember a 7 hour outage. I just don't. 

Are you REALLY saying that GW2 has no quests?   Replace the heart with an exclamation mark and there's your quest.  NPC requests player to d X action....when complete talk to NPC = quest.

Anyway, enjoy your server mergers.

To low a population to keep all of the servers they launched with it seems.

Also, this isn't the GW2 forums.  Go defend your game over there.

  Dakeru

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4/02/14 8:53:00 AM#51
Didn't take long for this thread to turn into a war between GW2 and ESO fans.
  Sk1ppeR

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4/02/14 8:53:02 AM#52
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR 

But yeah tl;dr; Gw2's launch compared to TESO was perfect. I don't remember a 7 hour outage. I just don't. 

I could even login during launch. Here it just says my login or password is wrong...

Ah I guess you never used the alternative login server ^^. 

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4/02/14 8:53:35 AM#53
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4/02/14 8:53:49 AM#54

If people are accessing other folks characters and able to mail away all of their gold or something, than this is a real nightmare.

On the plus side I'm only level 8 with about 2K gold, so not much for me to lose.

Would suck to be a level 50 though and have someone wreck your account.  (bye bye Emperor)

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  Voiidiin

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Joined: 1/13/11
Posts: 827

Soylent green is made from PEOPLE

4/02/14 8:55:09 AM#55
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by DMKano

So the game has been down for over 7 hours now, but that's not the worst of it.

Reading reports were players were gaining access to other players accounts, that's just heartbreaking.

This is why the servers are still down - it's an absolute showstopper, this has to get sorted out.

I can't imagine the scrambling and work that's been going on by Zenimax staff these last 7 hours - ouch

 

I expect there will be a rollback, but only after they identify (and fix)  this security flaw (most likely on the platform side).

So my hat's off to zenimax guys who've been working on this all night so that we have a fun and secure game to play.

Drama

Its not "drama" if I CAN LOG INTO SOMEONE ELSES ACCOUNT. Thats a SERIOUS issue. If you dont think so then thats just plain fan boyism. Also there have been plenty of reports of banks getting wiped, duping, ect ect. Its not drama if its this serious.

Just so we are clear... the incidents where your logged into another account is random... meaning when it happened it was not controlled by the person logging in.

While this is bad in and of itself, its not the huge super security flaw, where some asshat is purposely getting access to someone else's account that they target.

Lolipops !

  Sk1ppeR

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Joined: 4/29/12
Posts: 534

4/02/14 8:56:07 AM#56
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

Originally posted by Amjoco

Originally posted by DSWBeef

Originally posted by Daxamar Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs. I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course. I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always. I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!
Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.
Do you have a checklist or guideline for launch issue problems we could look at? An issue is an issue imho. It will be fixed and forgotten, just as GW2 had issues with logging in, and so many other title releases had problems and fixed. 
Gw2 was literally DDoSed with incoming connections. The login issues also were affecting only a fraction of the population, not entire continent. Also I'm pretty sure the account hijack is a result of a larger hack. As you can see the EU cluster is having no issues at all. So yeah, go hate somewhere else. Gw2 had a perfect launch compared to TESO. And both datacenters weren't located in NA. 

 

The general interest in ESO is far lesser. 


 

are u just here to defend GW2? if so many more people play GW2 why do you seem to be so threatened by ESO?

go play GW2 and be happy that it's supposedly such a better and more popular game than ESO.

the my game vs your game mentality is sooo annoying.

 

It's funny you should say that because I see you write in most Gw2 threads, mostly in negative way. I actually fixed your opinion for you and you never responded me in one of those threads. You were, as usual, talking things you have no knowledge about. 

Also I'm not here to defend, just to set things straight, because I see all you whiteknights just love to spew shit about Gw2 and you are obviously mistaken. Sorry if you feel offended :) Don't take it so personally.

And yeah I enjoy playing my game, its just I'm currently at work. Got a scheduled guild WvW event. Cool stuff. Do you think you will be able to play by the end of the day? *troll* 

As an owner and player of GW2, I can say that they had many many issues at launch.

Server crashes, login failures, people being hacked, botters botters botters, gold spammers were outnumbering players (exaggeration but not entirely off base), instancing issues galore, lag, lag, more lag, dynamic events bugged, quests bugged, falling through the world, ANet banned people for buying items in game, server crashes (wrote this one twice because it did happen a bit on those first few days), etc. etc.

I'm only stating all of this because you're acting like GW2 was so much better.  It literally took them MONTHS to fix a  majority of these issues..some of which still exist.

With all that said, I still like GW2.  It's fun at times.  Again, I'm only posting this because there seemed to be some confusion regarding the state of GW2 at launch.

As an owner of pre-ordered collector's edition AND digital deluxe I can tell you that I had no single outage in my game. In fact in the first week I became lvl 80, fully geared in the 3rd and had 100% map exploration within the end of month 3 post launch. Do you think I could've done that in a broken game?

Also you are using wrong terms. Nobody got "hacked". People just never learn to use different and/or unique passwords for their accounts. If your password is "123456" or "qwerty" or "password" you are just asking for it. 

Also its funny you refer to quests, while Gw2 has no quest system. If you refer to the personal story line, I reached lvl 80 by defeating Zhaitan, back then the fight took me 4 hours in my blue gear Q_Q Maybe the whole encounter was harder, idk.

Also ANet banned those people because they were exploting. ANet is still the standard of how you should house an online game. So many botters and exploiters said bye-bye to Tyria thanks to Gw2's banhammer. I expect no less from Zenimax. 

I've never ridiculed ESO on gold spammers because those guys are in every MMO. Then again gold spam ended a week or two after launch, idk why you said months.

The only thing that took 2 months to get fixed was the trading post. In that time my girlfriend had abyss dye drop and used because neither of us thought its going to be so expensive. Oh well xD 

I do not know where you are from, Australia or New Zealand, I've never had lag at launch. And I took 2 weeks off work to take my time with Gw2. Yeah they even launched 3 hours before the announcement time, to reduce load. I was there ^^ And some douchebag still managed to steal my charname >.> 

But yeah tl;dr; Gw2's launch compared to TESO was perfect. I don't remember a 7 hour outage. I just don't. 

Are you REALLY saying that GW2 has no quests?   Replace the heart with an exclamation mark and there's your quest.  NPC requests player to d X action....when complete talk to NPC = quest.

Anyway, enjoy your server mergers.

To low a population to keep all of the servers they launched with it seems.

Also, this isn't the GW2 forums.  Go defend your game over there.

Well if you refer to the hearts, all the hearts me and my guild did were proc-ing. I read some people were having trouble with getting some skill points due to missing NPCs but damn, I read about heart issues for the first time in my life xD 

Also if you call Gw2's megaserver a merger, maybe you should do the same about TESO, no? Because idk ... I play at Gandara and 3 maps are overflown 100% of the time. 

Also maybe you should go calm all those people screaming for a wipe of the NA server, no? 

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 5444

 
OP  4/02/14 8:56:19 AM#57
[mod edit]

You are failing to understand the basic problem:

1. You log in with your username and password

2. You select your character on character select screen

3. You enter game and you are NOT your character - you are playing someone else's character, talking as them and having access to their inventory in bank!

 

It has NOTHING to do with weak passwords .

  kaiser3282

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Joined: 5/21/08
Posts: 2645

4/02/14 8:57:03 AM#58
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

Originally posted by Amjoco

Originally posted by DSWBeef

Originally posted by Daxamar Loving the game so far! Good luck ZOS on getting the bugs. I dont know what people expected out of a MMO launch frankly. So far its par for the course. I have been at a few Launches in my time. They always have bugs and issues. Always. I dont like the down time, but its all good. Still loving the game!
Im sorry but if these reports are true, Being able to log into someones account using YOUR own acct info is pretty drastic and not your "run of the mill" launch issues.
Do you have a checklist or guideline for launch issue problems we could look at? An issue is an issue imho. It will be fixed and forgotten, just as GW2 had issues with logging in, and so many other title releases had problems and fixed. 
Gw2 was literally DDoSed with incoming connections. The login issues also were affecting only a fraction of the population, not entire continent. Also I'm pretty sure the account hijack is a result of a larger hack. As you can see the EU cluster is having no issues at all. So yeah, go hate somewhere else. Gw2 had a perfect launch compared to TESO. And both datacenters weren't located in NA. 

 

The general interest in ESO is far lesser. 


 

are u just here to defend GW2? if so many more people play GW2 why do you seem to be so threatened by ESO?

go play GW2 and be happy that it's supposedly such a better and more popular game than ESO.

the my game vs your game mentality is sooo annoying.

 

It's funny you should say that because I see you write in most Gw2 threads, mostly in negative way. I actually fixed your opinion for you and you never responded me in one of those threads. You were, as usual, talking things you have no knowledge about. 

Also I'm not here to defend, just to set things straight, because I see all you whiteknights just love to spew shit about Gw2 and you are obviously mistaken. Sorry if you feel offended :) Don't take it so personally.

And yeah I enjoy playing my game, its just I'm currently at work. Got a scheduled guild WvW event. Cool stuff. Do you think you will be able to play by the end of the day? *troll* 

As an owner and player of GW2, I can say that they had many many issues at launch.

Server crashes, login failures, people being hacked, botters botters botters, gold spammers were outnumbering players (exaggeration but not entirely off base), instancing issues galore, lag, lag, more lag, dynamic events bugged, quests bugged, falling through the world, ANet banned people for buying items in game, server crashes (wrote this one twice because it did happen a bit on those first few days), etc. etc.

I'm only stating all of this because you're acting like GW2 was so much better.  It literally took them MONTHS to fix a  majority of these issues..some of which still exist.

With all that said, I still like GW2.  It's fun at times.  Again, I'm only posting this because there seemed to be some confusion regarding the state of GW2 at launch.

As an owner of pre-ordered collector's edition AND digital deluxe I can tell you that I had no single outage in my game. In fact in the first week I became lvl 80, fully geared in the 3rd and had 100% map exploration within the end of month 3 post launch. Do you think I could've done that in a broken game?

Also you are using wrong terms. Nobody got "hacked". People just never learn to use different and/or unique passwords for their accounts. If your password is "123456" or "qwerty" or "password" you are just asking for it. 

Also its funny you refer to quests, while Gw2 has no quest system. If you refer to the personal story line, I reached lvl 80 by defeating Zhaitan, back then the fight took me 4 hours in my blue gear Q_Q Maybe the whole encounter was harder, idk.

Also ANet banned those people because they were exploting. ANet is still the standard of how you should house an online game. So many botters and exploiters said bye-bye to Tyria thanks to Gw2's banhammer. I expect no less from Zenimax. 

I've never ridiculed ESO on gold spammers because those guys are in every MMO. Then again gold spam ended a week or two after launch, idk why you said months.

The only thing that took 2 months to get fixed was the trading post. In that time my girlfriend had abyss dye drop and used because neither of us thought its going to be so expensive. Oh well xD 

I do not know where you are from, Australia or New Zealand, I've never had lag at launch. And I took 2 weeks off work to take my time with Gw2. Yeah they even launched 3 hours before the announcement time, to reduce load. I was there ^^ And some douchebag still managed to steal my charname >.> 

But yeah tl;dr; Gw2's launch compared to TESO was perfect. I don't remember a 7 hour outage. I just don't. 

 

Also, why do you think ESO launched with "megaserver" in the first place? It will just prolong the subscription play instead of being forced to go F2P by the playerbase because of low numbers. Such things are annoying, especially in huge worlds like ESO's. This way they can make a game seem alive even with 10,000 players, or less. From what I saw in Cyrodill, there were only a handful of shards to play for. 

Hmmm... so you have absolutely no memory of the multiple server downtimes for patches during the first couple weeks? No recollection of the people abusing things like incorrect pricing on certain items to become ver rich very fast? No recollection of the thousands of EU people who could not access the game for what was it, the entire 1st week or so?

Nifty.

  Four0Six

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/18/11
Posts: 1098

4/02/14 8:59:39 AM#59

Rough.

Logging in to a different character is a SERIOUS issue. If they cant fix that it will be a black eye that wont go away. GL to them.

 

To those saying it is a bug, and not a security issue, I ask them to apply the situation to a different aspect of their lives, like say when they use an ATM card. I am sure if someone, through no fault of their own, logged into and withdrew from your RL bank, you would consider it a "security flaw".

  Jackdog

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Joined: 3/19/04
Posts: 6374

4/02/14 9:00:35 AM#60

Been through so many bad launches they all start to merge now.

In terms of the worst I would have to say good old Ultima Online, Anarchy Online or SWG  as the very worst. Ultima because of server instability, bugs, and exploits and SWG for sheer number of major game breaking bugs. Anarchy Online was a soup sandwich with server issues and more bugs than a inner city garbage can.

Only MMO I can recall with a really smooth launch was LoTRO. LoTRO still has the record for smooth launch in my opinion. I can only recall a few minor bugs none of which were more than an annoyance.

GW2's launch was not all that bad, issues with auction house for the first few days is about the only thing I remember. Took them about 2 weeks to cure the gold seller and botting issues.

Considering I have a lvl 4 and a lvl 6 toon in this game if they both got rolled back to the starting instance I would not be super upset. Contrast that with having my merchandiser loaded with 2 million credits or more in crafted weapons going "poof" in SWG 3 months after launch. When SOE CS told me "tough cookies" I canceled my sub and never looked at the game again.

I will give the game until the end of the month, see where it is then before making any decisions on whether to sub or walk away.

 

I miss DAoC

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