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  Dren_Utogi

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Joined: 8/21/10
Posts: 1688

4/02/14 6:06:19 AM#121
never seen a server down this long during "head start" . Zenimax failed in my honest opinion. THe launched a bugged / exploit prone game. Games never come back from this much bad forum publicity.

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  kaiser3282

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4/02/14 6:21:15 AM#122
Originally posted by Dren_Utogi
never seen a server down this long during "head start" . Zenimax failed in my honest opinion. THe launched a bugged / exploit prone game. Games never come back from this much bad forum publicity.

I can think of several that have been down this long, or longer either during early access or their 1st week of launch. More recent ones would be Defiance and GW2. If not all in one shot, then at least this long spread out across multiple downtimes within a day or 2.

What "exploits" exactly? I wonder sometimes if people even understand the word or how much is actually exploited in any game for people to gain advantages. GW2 would be a good example again of being loaded with bugs and systems that were exploited from the start, then eventually fixed. Theyve done just fine.

Issues at the start of a game aren't what kills them, so long as they DO get fixed. We have yet to see what will happen in the case of ESO. Most games die off simply due to being shitty, boring, rehashed games to begin with. Whether or not they have technical issues at launch is usually irrelevant.

  Amjoco

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4/02/14 6:21:24 AM#123
Originally posted by Dren_Utogi
never seen a server down this long during "head start" . Zenimax failed in my honest opinion. THe launched a bugged / exploit prone game. Games never come back from this much bad forum publicity.

Oh my, you don't play many mmorpgs do you? Just grabbed these off google.

http://www.examiner.com/article/guild-wars-2-early-access-launch-is-full-of-connection-errors

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/view/news/read/30622/Elder-Scrolls-Online-Servers-Down-for-Unscheduled-Maintenance.html

 

 

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Elikal

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4/02/14 6:22:14 AM#124

Something to cheer us up, found on Reddit:

 

So after looking at several threads on this subreddit I think ive pieced it together... In the early hours of april fools day someone at zenimax collected the following items and placed them on the megaserver:

  • A piece of lettuce.

  • A lesser soul gem

  • A spool of yarn

Then they stood on the server and stuck fishsticks up their nose while repeating the word wabbajack. For those that do not know April 1st on Earth is Sheogoraths day and the only time he can be summoned.

Shortly after this players report logging into other players accounts. Random admin messages in varying languages appear on the screen. Chaos ensues and the servers are brought down.

I dont want to point fingers but I think it was /u/ZOS_JessicaFolsom who summoned the god of pranks. Can't blame her though - I mean who doesnt want a wabbajack?

My question is how many fishsticks did you need to stick up your nose before Sheogorath appeared? Also have you turned anyone into a chicken yet? Wabbajack...wabbajack. ..wabbajack."

 

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/21zx1p/an_explanation_for_the_server_issues_today/

 

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  sgel

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Joined: 7/11/08
Posts: 1160

I've got this creature on my back.. it just wont let go.

4/02/14 6:24:00 AM#125

So we've gone from "best launch ever!111" to "this is just like every other mmo launch".

I wonder where we'll be in a few days.

 

..Cake..

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4787

4/02/14 6:26:27 AM#126
Originally posted by sgel

So we've gone from "best launch ever!111" to "this is just like every other mmo launch".

I wonder where we'll be in a few days.

 

Well this thread will be forgotten. Players who love it will be playing and those that have nothing better to do will be back here trashing it. I'm not sure which life I would choose. Oh wait, I want to be happy so I will play.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  vmoped

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Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 1722

4/02/14 6:26:55 AM#127
Originally posted by Dren_Utogi
never seen a server down this long during "head start" . Zenimax failed in my honest opinion. THe launched a bugged / exploit prone game. Games never come back from this much bad forum publicity.

I can assure you this has happened to many games during their respective head launches and/or regular launches.  It is almost tradition now!

Cheers!

MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  andreawales

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Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 47

4/02/14 6:48:48 AM#128
I recommend diving into to some Diablo III loot fest while we wait guys ! :)
  TheOctagon

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Joined: 2/12/11
Posts: 202

4/02/14 6:51:02 AM#129

This why open Betas are GOOD.

Paid Betas are BAD.

There are NEVER enough people to fully test the server load, bugs etc...

  Bozo256

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Joined: 1/15/06
Posts: 74

4/02/14 7:20:14 AM#130

Lots of games have had worse opening days (or weeks!).  However, my expectations are higher than they have ever been and I have little patience for developers who meet their internal deadlines by releasing a buggy product.

That said, ESO is doing fine so far.  They should probably prioritize the fixing of the high visibility quest issues, but since these quest lines are not something that stops a player from playing - it is just not that big of a deal.

It does sound like they have some bigger problems to deal with tonight regarding basic account security, and that is kind of a big deal.  It's going to be down for a while, I think.

  Sk1ppeR

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Joined: 4/29/12
Posts: 534

4/02/14 7:27:47 AM#131
Originally posted by Mardy
Originally posted by mogilny89
Yes you sound really convincing.  You are having fun playing the game?  When ? Now?  Having fun with people being 40 levels ahead of you and people logging in and getting other people's characters?  How much you get paid to shill?

 

ROFL every single MMO launch, there are always people that reached max within a few days of launch.  Every single one of them.  And every time there are dramatic posters that come on the forums whine about it, as if people still get surprised it happens.  Get real, or rather, get a clue.

 

I've played MMO's long enough to not get bothered by the small fraction of a % of playerbase that do this in all MMO's.  The overwhelming majority of the playerbase are every day gamers, the "core" gamers that will not be reaching max level in quite a long time, maybe even never.

 

Now, you can be someone that whines and worries about the min/maxers that find the best way to level and do it within the first week of launch?  or you can be like the majority of the gamers out there, who enjoy themselves, have their circle of friends they play with, and enjoy the games for what they have to offer.  We can already tell where you stand.

Exactly my friend! People reached max within few days, not 24 hours xD 

  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3345

4/02/14 8:12:32 AM#132
Originally posted by kitarad

Other people have access to your characters ? That sounds really screwed up. How can that happen isn't that a security loophole if people are not even intentionally hacking and manage it. Jeez they need to fix this ASAP.


Overall though they have had good uptime so not a point to grouse about .They have to fix bad problems though so give them a break.

Poorly coded login server.  My guess is that the @name is associated with your login and the communication between your @name and your login got compromised allowing people to find a back door into other people's characters without figuring out their PW. 


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  HabitualFrogStomp

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Posts: 319

4/02/14 8:13:45 AM#133
  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3345

4/02/14 8:18:17 AM#134
Originally posted by TheOctagon

This why open Betas are GOOD.

Paid Betas are BAD.

There are NEVER enough people to fully test the server load, bugs etc...

except that Zenimax basically had an open beta when they used MMO media sites to had out over 500k beta keys. 


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  DAS1337

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Posts: 2435

4/02/14 8:19:08 AM#135
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by sgel

So we've gone from "best launch ever!111" to "this is just like every other mmo launch".

I wonder where we'll be in a few days.

 

Well this thread will be forgotten. Players who love it will be playing and those that have nothing better to do will be back here trashing it. I'm not sure which life I would choose. Oh wait, I want to be happy so I will play.

You do know that there are consequences for making huge oversights like this right?

 

For all we know, for ZOS, this screw up could be worth 100,000 subscriptions being cancelled.  You do the math.

  Dren_Utogi

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Joined: 8/21/10
Posts: 1688

4/02/14 8:25:47 AM#136

Zenimax doesn't get it. every second is another subscription lost. 60 subs a minute, 3600 subs an hour =  28,800 subscriptions dropped. 

 

THe plague of the internet doesn't help to sell the game either lol

This will be a good learning tool for future developers wanting to get into the mmorpg industry .

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  xpiher

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Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 3345

4/02/14 8:29:57 AM#137

Zenimax admittied to the issue indirectly people

 

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/64824/eso-north-american-megaserver-downtime-4-1-to-4-2


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  thunderC

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Posts: 472

4/02/14 8:30:12 AM#138
Maybe not the right post for this, But I cannot stand the "@youraccountname" that comes up in guild chat...Why would they do this??!!
  Dren_Utogi

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Joined: 8/21/10
Posts: 1688

4/02/14 8:31:01 AM#139
Originally posted by thunderC
Maybe not the right post for this, But I cannot stand the "@youraccountname" that comes up in guild chat...Why would they do this??!!

make it easier to hack LOL

 

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  ShavaKa

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4/02/14 8:53:50 AM#140
Originally posted by Dren_Utogi
never seen a server down this long during "head start" . Zenimax failed in my honest opinion. THe launched a bugged / exploit prone game. Games never come back from this much bad forum publicity.

What a joke. You haven't played many headstarts then.

FFXIV ARR was an absolute MESS for early access and launch.

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