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  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

3/28/14 7:22:12 AM#21

SC2 was/is very good, both original and first xpac. I'm betting 3rd and final chapter announced at Blizzcon this year.

D3 was always "good" since I started playing it, 2.0 made it 10x better, RoS 10x better still.

Hearthstone is good, I agree.

Heroes of the Storm might make me actually play a MOBA.

WoW and Warlords of Draenor? Meh. I'll pass I think.

I may be done with traditional MMOs entirely.

 

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  sgel

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3/28/14 7:27:31 AM#22
Originally posted by BadSpock

 

D3 was always "good" since I started playing it, 2.0 made it 10x better, RoS 10x better still.

Heroes of the Storm might make me actually play a MOBA. 

D3 was always good?

HoS a good MOBA? :D

Have you not seen the videos?

I understand being a blizzard fanboy mate... but REALLY.

 

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  Flyte27

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3/28/14 7:52:25 AM#23
I was thinking of playing Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls.  I installed and started playing one of my characters.  The main problem seemed to be that the game is fairly similar no matter what you do.  You can change up your abilities if you want some variety, but it's mostly kill and loot using the same mechanics that are working.  There isn't much else to do.  I guess that's not different from the old Diablo games though.  Perhaps I just don't have the patience for it anymore.  I also noticed the equipment is dropping like candy now and since it almost always has stats for your character you will find yourself even more overpowered in no time.  If I recall in Diablo 1 and 2 you usually worked on getting sets of armor that were good for your class.  I'm not sure if they added sets or not.
  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

3/28/14 9:51:51 AM#24
Originally posted by sgel
Originally posted by BadSpock

 

D3 was always "good" since I started playing it, 2.0 made it 10x better, RoS 10x better still.

Heroes of the Storm might make me actually play a MOBA. 

D3 was always good?

HoS a good MOBA? :D

Have you not seen the videos?

I understand being a blizzard fanboy mate... but REALLY.

I didn't start playing D3 till like, September 2013 so yes, it's been good since I've started playing it. My first playthrough start to finish was on Xbox 360 actually.

I've seen a few videos for HoS - having never really played a MOBA before it looks good/fun to me. 

I'm sorry you think your opinion is fact, that is very sad.

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  sportsfan

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OP  3/28/14 9:53:15 AM#25
Originally posted by Flyte27
I was thinking of playing Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls.  I installed and started playing one of my characters.  The main problem seemed to be that the game is fairly similar no matter what you do.  You can change up your abilities if you want some variety, but it's mostly kill and loot using the same mechanics that are working.  There isn't much else to do.  I guess that's not different from the old Diablo games though.  Perhaps I just don't have the patience for it anymore.  I also noticed the equipment is dropping like candy now and since it almost always has stats for your character you will find yourself even more overpowered in no time.  If I recall in Diablo 1 and 2 you usually worked on getting sets of armor that were good for your class.  I'm not sure if they added sets or not.

I suggest you keep playing as with RoS you only get through the story ONCE and you don't need to redo it if you don't want to. Not even with a new character. The 4 times all over of all Acts has been DELETED.

The key word is "free roaming" here. Because the adventure mode and Rifts are new playing grounds which is free of choice for the player. Yes the Green sets of Armor are still in the game and it will take masses of time to acquire them.

The exciting news is that Blizzard now wants to create seasonal PVE contests in which you find seasonal specific gear and rewards, which would make the game even better than ladder systems.

Of course in its core game play you need to like searching for always better gear to meet the challenge of ever increasing difficulty settings. You start with Master or Hard (normal is for your grandma) and slide through 7 more difficulty settings which makes grinding a new verb in Diablo.

To me D3 is best game this year by far. Others may not like its eternal grind.

  sportsfan

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OP  3/28/14 9:55:20 AM#26
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by sgel
Originally posted by BadSpock

 

D3 was always "good" since I started playing it, 2.0 made it 10x better, RoS 10x better still.

Heroes of the Storm might make me actually play a MOBA. 

D3 was always good?

HoS a good MOBA? :D

Have you not seen the videos?

I understand being a blizzard fanboy mate... but REALLY.

I didn't start playing D3 till like, September 2013 so yes, it's been good since I've started playing it. My first playthrough start to finish was on Xbox 360 actually.

I've seen a few videos for HoS - having never really played a MOBA before it looks good/fun to me. 

I'm sorry you think your opinion is fact, that is very sad.

Calling Badspock a Blizzard fan boy is the same as calling Oprah a mute in view of his old posts.

  Lord.Bachus

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3/28/14 9:59:50 AM#27

If they would have sold it for that price as a combo including the orriginal D3 game, i would have been taunted to buy it...

 

they did not

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  zevian

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3/28/14 10:02:39 AM#28
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

 

 

The success of Healthstone depends on the success of WoW - you must have played WoW in order to understand Hearthstone - so Hearthstone has a limited audience.

 

 

 

 

Well with 7 or so million active accounts, plus another at least 3 million but probably a whole lot more than 3 million who have played WoW.  That sure sound like an awfully limiting audience to me.   

I happened to give away a beta invite to someone who just wanted a casual game to play on her PC (never played WoW)   she kicks my butt at it.

Add in when Hearthstone hits phones and tablet (something in my opinion it is better designed for)  yea well.

 

Heros of the storm looks fun,   im nto a big MOBA fan personally only played LOL for a short while to figure out i didnt like it, i will certainly be trying Hereos as it seems a little more my style for that type of game.     I didnt purchase d3 xpac, but i was never a huge fan of the diablo series, SC2 is fun,   not as much fun for me now as it was when i was younger (Actions per Minutes vs Strategy meh). However i will definately be buying the Protoss Expansion as i love the story line and campaign gameplay.

edit spelling (and its not all fixed need more coffee!)

  Axxar

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3/28/14 10:07:08 AM#29

StarCraft 2 instantly removed all doubt of Blizzard's ability to make great non-WoW stuff, and Hearthstone and Reaper of Souls are proving ther abilities again. Initial Diablo 3 has been their only misstep so far, and even that was a good game. Just not as good as it should have been. I think SC2 easily is their highest quality game since WoW's release.

Their WoW stuff has been fairly dubious after TBC, but maybe WoD will help.

  vgamer

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3/28/14 10:17:00 AM#30

Yes, let's go back to adoring Blizz mindlessly after they enhanced the sequal to one of the best aRPGs just for money despite many people foolishly saying it would ruin the game. We should especially kneel for Them and throw money at Them after They admitted Their fuck up, 2 years later because nobody would buy a full-game-priced expansion for a game that contains every chinese gold/item farmers' wet dream.

 

But that's not all. They also made a game that blessed the TCG world with it's remarkably shallow gameplay and it's graceful ambition to extract money out of us, blessed ones. Oh Blizz, you are too good for this world and we thank You for Your choice to enlighten us with Thy holy presence.

 

Especially Their CEO, the true God of gaming has inspired us with so many treasures and pieces of wisdom. Here are some examples:

On the conditions in which a game should be made:

"The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."

 

"I think we definitely have been able to instill the culture, the skepticism and pessimism and fear that you should have in an economy like we are in today. And so, while generally people talk about the recession, we are pretty good at keeping people focused on the deep depression."

 

On how we should treat in game cut scenes:

“If we were to take that hour, or hour and a half, take it out of the game, and we were to go to our audiences for whom we have their credit card information as well as a direct relationship and ask, ‘Would you like to have the StarCraft movie?’, my guess is that … you’d have the biggest opening weekend of any film ever.”

 

Our God on how innovation should be in the industry:

"Kotick responded not by addressing any of the games by name, but by talking about Activision’s publishing philosophy. The games Activision Blizzard didn't pick up, he said, "don't have the potential to be exploited every year on every platform with clear sequel potential and have the potential to become $100 million franchises. … I think, generally, our strategy has been to focus… on the products that have those attributes and characteristics, the products that we know [that] if we release them today, we'll be working on them 10 years from now."

 

So let me end this prayer by kneeling before Blizzard, so that once again that empty feeling in our nether regions can be fulfilled with happiness.

  SavageHorizon

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3/28/14 10:24:31 AM#31
Two words one number. Dark Souls 2.

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  Aeonblades

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3/28/14 10:25:17 AM#32
It's gonna take a lot more than a card game and a really late fix for a terrible franchise ruining game to reignite my trust in Blizzard and their development team again.

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  laserit

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3/28/14 10:25:33 AM#33
The only thing "Brilliant" about Blizzard games is their return on investment.

I made a double sided USB cable and I plugged my Console into my PC... or did I plug my PC into my Console? Anyway I can now play Console games on my PC! and play PC games on my Console!

FRIGGING AWESOME!

  deniter

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3/28/14 10:26:11 AM#34
Originally posted by Aeonblades
It's gonna take a lot more than a card game and a really late fix for a terrible franchise ruining game to reignite my trust in Blizzard and their development team again.

Well said, and agreed.

  reemi

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3/28/14 10:40:07 AM#35
Originally posted by sgel
Originally posted by BadSpock

 

D3 was always "good" since I started playing it, 2.0 made it 10x better, RoS 10x better still.

Heroes of the Storm might make me actually play a MOBA. 

D3 was always good?

HoS a good MOBA? :D

Have you not seen the videos?

I understand being a blizzard fanboy mate... but REALLY.

 

Well, I really enjoyed D3, I played more than 200 hours and for me it's one of the best game I never played. And yes, I also played D2 when I was young. 

HoS look fun and I'll give it a try, only because I hate shop in LoL or DOTA so I think HoS will be perfect for me. 

 

Everytime someone like a Blizzard game, someone call him a Fanboy... But, Blizzard is very popular and big, because their games are good. 

 

Some people always hate what Blizzard do just because they want to be different. 

 

  nariusseldon

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3/28/14 2:16:49 PM#36
Originally posted by sportsfan
Originally posted by Kabaal
So they make a card game and finally get round to making D3 decent a mere 2 years after they release it? OK.

Both are incredibly good games instead of decent though and while "good" is subjective, their popularity on Twitch speaks volumes.

Just be glad the focus is lift off from WoW for all.

Agreed.

In fact, D3 sold 15M boxes even BEFORE the fix .. now it went from good to great, and it shoot up to #2 on Xfire, beating even LoL.

Hearthstone is a pretty good CCG .. and the software itself is slick. Good, of course, is subjective, but I have yet to find a Blizz game that is not fun to me. So yeah, they get my money (but i doubt they need my support, given how big a financial success D3 is already).

 

  Tbau

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3/28/14 2:22:13 PM#37
Originally posted by sportsfan

Now I consider it the best game Blizzard published since 2005.

That is not saying much at all.

Outside of Wow they only release StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 since 2005 (actually since 2010 as it was only WoW before that). StarCraft 2 was horribly short and didn't actually improve itself over the first and Diablo 3 is not a good game either compared to pre 2005 Blizzard games.

If it was their best game since 1995, that would have actually been saying something.

  Solar_Prophet

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3/28/14 2:45:04 PM#38

Diablo 3 was a very good game with a few minor missteps, but with those I can at least applaud Blizzard for trying something new, regardless of their motivation. Most of the people complaining about it were the same type of folks who complained that D2 wasn't a carbon copy of D1. Patch 2.0 made a good game great, and RoS turns that great game into a fantastic one.

Don't care about Starcraft 2. To me that franchise has always been a poor man's WH40K clone, and to that end if I do play an RTS it's usually one of the Dawn of War games.

Don't like CCGs. They rely a bit too much on luck for my tastes. And yes, luck is always a factor no matter how well you build your deck. If I were to play one it would probably be Hearthstone though.

Heroes of the Storm looks good. MOBAs are a game style I've tried to get into repeatedly, as they can be great fun. Sadly games like LoL and Smite seem to attract the absolute dregs of PC gaming, and any fun to be had is quickly squelched by the caustic behavior of their communities. HotS might well be a good game, but judging from the lack of policing in WoW, Blizzard probably isn't going to do much to keep the community in line. I most likely won't be playing it.

WoW is still one of the best theme park MMOs out there, with a decade's worth of polish and content. I've since moved on, but it kept me entertained for over 6 years. I probably won't be buying WoD though, as I'm happy with FFXIV.

Blizzard isn't 'back'. To me they never really went away to begin with.

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  nariusseldon

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3/28/14 2:54:48 PM#39
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet

Don't like CCGs. They rely a bit too much on luck for my tastes. And yes, luck is always a factor no matter how well you build your deck. If I were to play one it would probably be Hearthstone though.

Heroes of the Storm looks good. MOBAs are a game style I've tried to get into repeatedly, as they can be great fun. Sadly games like LoL and Smite seem to attract the absolute dregs of PC gaming, and any fun to be had is quickly squelched by the caustic behavior of their communities. HotS might well be a good game, but judging from the lack of policing in WoW, Blizzard probably isn't going to do much to keep the community in line. I most likely won't be playing it.

 

Blizzard isn't 'back'. To me they never really went away to begin with.

I am the opposite on this issue. I am more interested in Hearthstone than the blizz MOBA. I just can't get into MOBA because i can't compete with kids my sons' age on reaction time and manuevering. CCG, OTOH, is more a thinking game (with randomness, of course).

D3 .. of course, i agree is a great game now, and i have lots of fun with it.

 

 

  kostanza

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3/28/14 3:00:28 PM#40
This thread needs the disclaimer: "This paid advertisement has been brought to you by Blizzard."

I thought only EVEs employees use this forum as their primary marketing location...
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