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  HabitualFrogStomp

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Posts: 220

3/24/14 5:43:49 AM#21

I'll start caring the moment anyone starts caring about oceanic players lag. So EU players have to put with no dedicated localized server for an undetermined but apparently short period of time. Try forever and then get back to me.

If this is the worst the habitual haters have to rag on today about TESO, Zenimax aint doin half bad.

Honestly, this is such a non (temporary) issue its not even funny.  But please continue to rave like lunatics about it, its pretty awesome.

 

  Aroukos

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Posts: 584

3/24/14 5:49:08 AM#22
Originally posted by Tsumoro
Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
Originally posted by Hrotha

I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

I am literally out of words if this is the case.

 

What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

 

Get a life. No one besides you cares.

Don't be a complete tool with your responses, they clearly had some concerns about it which you could of addressed without getting insulting. So let me educate you as to why this might be concerning for some;

1) Lag IS an issue, even if its down to mere micro-seconds it is an issue. Especially for those whom like to do competitive play to which in ESO will be a thing considering it has a strong PvP vibe to it. So yes, if someone from the US is able to act quicker from someone from the EU it becomes a problem. 

2) Server updates! The biggest peeve known to all EU players forced to play on a US server. The time they do their maintenance is based on a US schedule which means the Americans get to have their game down whilst they sleep ready for them as they awake. Us in the EU end up having the server go down right in prime time evening meaning for the most part that we can't play the game 1 day out the seven. 

I could actually go on and on about potential problems that this causes for some people. But, I wont. Can't be that bothered. For myself, none of the issues concern me, I am happy to play as things are. But, I can understand and appreciate that some of these issues might concern others even if you cant. 

 

This

  Spaceweed10

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Joined: 4/01/08
Posts: 656

Where do we go from here?

3/24/14 5:49:19 AM#23
Originally posted by Hrotha

I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

I am literally out of words if this is the case.

 

Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
 

 

There is already a thread on this subject.

Mods, please close.

  Lobotomist

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/07
Posts: 4822

I got so much trouble on my mind Refuse to lose.

3/24/14 5:54:53 AM#24
Originally posted by Hrotha

I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

I am literally out of words if this is the case.

 

Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
 

ESO is not Bethesda game. They have nothing to do with it.

The game is made by Zenimax , which is (was) game distributor company. First time developing game. And since they own TES IP they make this MMO.

So dont bash Bethesda ;) they have nothing to do with this game.

 

  AzurePrower

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 1535

Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

3/24/14 5:56:02 AM#25

Oceanics say hi. And that it could be worse. Much worse.

 

We're not talking your so cute 150ms pings you have to put up with.

Oh no. 250ms if you're lucky! Even up to 400ms is not unheard of!

 

Yet we don't protest the end of the world.

  askdaboss

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Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 429

3/24/14 5:59:41 AM#26

As I understand it, every EU player is going to be in the same bag, so everyone is going to have lag, and everyone is going to be affected by the same delay (so it shouldn't matter in terms of competitive play).

This won't affect my decision to play the game from the first day however it is looking like I won't be subscribing into a second month, as they seem to have many issues to sort out first.

 

  Hultay

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Joined: 6/07/13
Posts: 59

3/24/14 5:59:43 AM#27

While I was playing on so called EU cluster last beta and US cluster betas before I never had ANY latency issues.

But, since I dont know servers IP addresses, I cant speculate what was the actual ping in ms.

  Lobotomist

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/07
Posts: 4822

I got so much trouble on my mind Refuse to lose.

3/24/14 5:59:57 AM#28

BTW

Zenimax are playing this so safe. its clear that they themselves believe the game will flop.

  • They are going for "megaservers" so that they can hide the fact when they need to close and merge servers
  • They are allready putting item shop in place - so they will be ready for F2P switch as soon as possible
  • They are not making EU server in order to save money from costly overseas operation , and to again mask the fact when they will have to close the server and merge it with US

  Mothanos

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Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1854

3/24/14 6:01:04 AM#29

Both studio's are owned by 1 man.
So they are sister company's.

As long as US players dont roll on EU servers you should not realy see problems, unless it creates massive lag.
if that is the case Zenimax are in for a world of problems with people who should get their money back as the gaming expirience is not of the quality it should be.

And they should offer refunds if its that bad, from what i have seen on the beta weekends, it ran pretty smooth.
But if the MS goes up to 400/500 then it creates a whole level of shit that people should not accept.


  Aroukos

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Joined: 6/13/13
Posts: 584

3/24/14 6:02:42 AM#30
Originally posted by Lobotomist

BTW

Zenimax are playing this so safe. its clear that they themselves believe the game will flop.

  • They are going for "megaservers" so that they can hide the fact when they need to close and merge servers
  • They are allready putting item shop in place - so they will be ready for F2P switch as soon as possible
  • They are not making EU server in order to save money from costly overseas operation , and to again mask the fact when they will have to close the server and merge it with US

Very true!

  Mothanos

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Posts: 1854

3/24/14 6:10:48 AM#31

Yup its the only reason i think they do not own a big datacenter yet in Europe.
It costs ridiculous amounts of money to install servers and maintain them.

If the game flops or goes free to play, they have at least saved millions and millions of cash.
But if they do not open up EU servers and the MS / Lag is to much they get a hurricane of bad press over their head...
And the only
thing you have in this genre is your reputation...once demolished it will be very hard to recover from it.

  Mpfive

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 280

3/24/14 6:13:34 AM#32
Ohh look Hrotha and MKkano moaning about ESO.. still. Give it a rest you're looking silly now..
  Shamorau

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Joined: 6/14/09
Posts: 165

3/24/14 6:21:23 AM#33
Originally posted by Hrotha

I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

I am literally out of words if this is the case.

 

Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
 

dude hate to say it, but so what? i am an Aussie gamer. we never get local servers. always get servers in the US, hasnt really ever effected lag. and yes they are doing it, to see if its worthwhile putting an actual physcial server in Europe somewhere.

  Mr.SeriousGuy

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Joined: 3/15/14
Posts: 94

3/24/14 6:23:07 AM#34
Originally posted by DeniZg
Originally posted by Hrotha
Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
Originally posted by Hrotha

I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

I am literally out of words if this is the case.

 

What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU.

There is NO EU Server! The server is title EU but IS LOCATED in the US. That makes it an US server. If you can count 1+1 together than this means that Bethesda is simply counting the subscriptions from EU to see if it is worth it to establish a server here. There is no EU server for the EU. It is an US server located in the US, with a label "maybe moved to EU" on it.

OP, why are you making such a big deal out of this? ESO has tab-target combat in disguise anyway, so 100-150 ping won't matter much.

Disclaimer: I'm not buying or playing this game, just trying to constructively participate in a discussion.

real time blocking and dodging kind of make it matter . if everything was hidden dice rolls it wouldn't be a big deal but the games not made like that and various enemies have a AOE or attack that you may need to dodge because there coming at you 

Disclaimer: also not buying this game but played beta, just saying

  Scot

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Posts: 5253

3/24/14 6:24:07 AM#35

The impact of this will depend on how quickly the "EU" Megaserver gets moved to Europe. There will be issues with latency, the longer they go on, the worse it will be.

If we have no EU server at launch date +1 week, no problem, if we are still waiting at launch date +1 month there will be.

  Shaike

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Posts: 286

At first there were games, then MMOs, then MMORPGs then I understood I had no life :-)

3/24/14 6:24:47 AM#36
Originally posted by Jabas
Thanks for the info OP. As a european on the fence about this game, maybe i just decide wich side im going to jump...

Exactly what i was thinking... And i live in Israel....

Come to Wildstar - we would love to have you :-)

Just my 2 cents...

  R3dGallows

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3/24/14 6:25:29 AM#37
Originally posted by DMKano

COMPLETE BS!

 

Umm having additional 100+ms of latency is a big deal - otherwise why would they bother even having a EU based megaserver?

Oh yeah - that's right - because of lower latency for EU players.

 

There is no excusing this - they F'd up - their german datacenter wasn't ready in time - it's a screwup, there's no denying it.

Being upset over not having an EU based datacenter for EU players - to me that's warranted.

Can you imagine the outcry if US players had to play on EU servers????

C'mon - get real.

In PvP 100+ms of additional latency is HUGE - my latency to US TESO servers is below 20ms, now compare that to someone who is in 180+ms in EU - it's a huge advantage for me.

 

What are you on about??? Are you suggesting Americans will roll on the EU megaserver en masse so that they have latency advantage and then reroll and level from scratch back on US servers when the European cluster is moved to its final location???

  Gaoxin

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Posts: 196

3/24/14 6:36:14 AM#38
Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
Originally posted by Hrotha
blah
 

What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready.

Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

It seems like you didnt get the memo. If you want to be one of the cool kids, you have to create an ESO hate thread.

  d_20

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3/24/14 6:39:44 AM#39

There is an EU server. It will be moved to the EU once ZOS is confident that they won't need to keep tweaking it on a regular basis to keep it stable and working properly. Don't panic yet. I think they care about their business and they want your Euros, so they are probably doing what they think is best. I  would trust them for now till they mess up.

 

By the way, I'm in Asia and I played the beta on the same American server and my experience was fine.

  Patchez

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3/24/14 6:45:43 AM#40

Nobody needs to worry at all about this :)

 

Matt Firor has confirmed in a recent official statement that once launched, the playing experience will be lag free.

 

I would link it but can't seem to get on Massively from work :(

 

The bottom line is there will be no lag at all, so it really doesn't matter which server you are on or where it's located :)

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