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  Azzras

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3/24/14 2:55:40 PM#41
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Scalpless

It's just one of the things that made me not buy the game. Sorry, but in order for me to pay 15 euros per month for something, you have to give me access to all content, period. It also makes the devs look like a bunch of hypocrites, considering their lead tried to justify the sub by saying he dislikes paywalls.

IMO hiding the option to choose your race freely behind a pre-order is actually much worse. Whenever devs promote pre-ordering their game so heavily, it screams "we're not sure you'll buy it after reading some reviews" to me.

So if the CE would have come with vanity pets and mounts you would have still boycotted the game?

 

what kind of question is that? you are seriously comparing a cosmetic pet with a fully playable race?.... sigh

And the difference is?

ok, now i know you are just trolling. I thought you were being serious.

Not trolling at all.  You don't have access to 'content' be it a horse or a crab.  You can't have it without purchasing the CE. 

Again, what's the difference?

  orionblack

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3/24/14 2:55:50 PM#42
Originally posted by LuthorX

Think of it in the same terms as going out to eat...

 

You are free to order whatever you like from the menu, but you will have to pay for it. Chances are, if you are not willing to pay for a steak, you will not receive a steak.

 

If you want to play an Imperial, order an Imperial.

 

Simple, I know

Thank you.....the most simple explanation given..ever. 

  JemAs666

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3/24/14 3:01:52 PM#43
Originally posted by orionblack
Originally posted by LuthorX

Think of it in the same terms as going out to eat...

 

You are free to order whatever you like from the menu, but you will have to pay for it. Chances are, if you are not willing to pay for a steak, you will not receive a steak.

 

If you want to play an Imperial, order an Imperial.

 

Simple, I know

Thank you.....the most simple explanation given..ever. 

Yeah but the problem with the simple explanation is there are human beings that believe they are due a steak because they were spit out their Mom's womb.

  rodarin

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Posts: 425

3/24/14 3:02:45 PM#44
Its only available (for now) with the pre order too. You can upgrade after release but you MUST buy the regular preorder version of the game to even upgrade. If on April 5 you walk in and buy a copy off the shelf then you get nothing, no upgrade option no any race any alliance option. Nothing.
  Alber_gamer

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3/24/14 3:15:03 PM#45
I can already see that ESO will fail very hard. All these crappy things that fanboys are letting slip under the carpet will be noted once their honeymoon with the game ends, and hell will break loose.

My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  Azzras

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One Shot, Two Kills.

3/24/14 3:21:12 PM#46
Originally posted by Alber_gamer
I can already see that ESO will fail very hard. All these crappy things that fanboys are letting slip under the carpet will be noted once their honeymoon with the game ends, and hell will break loose.

I feel for those going to play WildStar more than ESO.  They have an entire HOUSE behind a paywall.

Also, did you see the armor?  Ouch.

 

  Aroukos

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OP  3/24/14 3:41:21 PM#47
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Alber_gamer
I can already see that ESO will fail very hard. All these crappy things that fanboys are letting slip under the carpet will be noted once their honeymoon with the game ends, and hell will break loose.

I feel for those going to play WildStar more than ESO.  They have an entire HOUSE behind a paywall.

Also, did you see the armor?  Ouch.

 

 

At least Wildstar Box cost less and sub can be obtained through in game currency too. You also have all the races unlocked and ppl in Europe have their servers in EU!

  Bad.dog

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3/24/14 3:43:53 PM#48
I'm playing eight Imperial characters two of each class all riding white horses and joining an Imperial only guild called "The Club"
  Azzras

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Posts: 422

One Shot, Two Kills.

3/24/14 3:56:29 PM#49
Originally posted by Aroukos
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Alber_gamer
I can already see that ESO will fail very hard. All these crappy things that fanboys are letting slip under the carpet will be noted once their honeymoon with the game ends, and hell will break loose.

I feel for those going to play WildStar more than ESO.  They have an entire HOUSE behind a paywall.

Also, did you see the armor?  Ouch.

 

 

At least Wildstar Box cost less and sub can be obtained through in game currency too. You also have all the races unlocked and ppl in Europe have their servers in EU!

Please, you won't need to pay a sub for it by December.  f2p all the way.  You can't beat WoW by trying to be WoW. 

Back on topic.

No one's explained yet what the big deal is about this CE opposed to others that had races or pets/mounts in the past.

 

  Kayo45

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3/24/14 4:15:29 PM#50
Originally posted by Aroukos
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Alber_gamer
I can already see that ESO will fail very hard. All these crappy things that fanboys are letting slip under the carpet will be noted once their honeymoon with the game ends, and hell will break loose.

I feel for those going to play WildStar more than ESO.  They have an entire HOUSE behind a paywall.

Also, did you see the armor?  Ouch.

At least Wildstar Box cost less and sub can be obtained through in game currency too. You also have all the races unlocked and ppl in Europe have their servers in EU!

This, funny how the sheep seem to constantly confuse what your character has as opposed to what your character is. Wildstar gives a house for it ... great ... it also offers tons more that look just as good. They dont tell you "Chua cant be Exiles because theyre allied with Dominion ... unless you give me more money." They dont have an IP with a very popular race which players have been using for years and put it behind a pay gate.

As for that idiotic restaurant analogy; Other than the fact that a pay per visit restaurant has is NOTHING even remotely close to a video game which players are subbed to... please point me to the restaurant that says you cant sit where you like unless you pay your meal 2 months in advance. Tell me which one hides the fact they serve chicken ... then reveals theyve had it all along, but you have to pay $20+ extra on top of another dish, to eat it?

  Neo_Liberty

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3/24/14 4:20:03 PM#51
Originally posted by Kayo45

At least Wildstar Box cost less and sub can be obtained through in game currency too. You also have all the races unlocked and ppl in Europe have their servers in EU!

This, funny how the sheep seem to constantly confuse what your character has as opposed to what your character is. Wildstar gives a house for it ... great ... it also offers tons more that look just as good. They dont tell you "Chua cant be Exiles because theyre allied with Dominion ... unless you give me more money." They dont have an IP with a very popular race which players have been using for years and put it behind a pay gate.

As for that idiotic restaurant analogy; Other than the fact that a pay per visit restaurant has is NOTHING even remotely close to a video game which players are subbed to... please point me to the restaurant that says you cant sit where you like unless you pay your meal 2 months in advance. Tell me which one hides the fact they serve chicken ... then reveals theyve had it all along, but you have to pay $20+ extra on top of another dish, to eat it?

Funny how ppl get so emotional over video games that they have to result to name calling. Ppl who choose not to buy are no less sheep than those who do buy... you are just a different type of sheep following the herd in a different direction.

  Velocinox

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Posts: 643

3/24/14 4:22:00 PM#52
Originally posted by orionblack
Originally posted by LuthorX

Think of it in the same terms as going out to eat...

 

You are free to order whatever you like from the menu, but you will have to pay for it. Chances are, if you are not willing to pay for a steak, you will not receive a steak.

 

If you want to play an Imperial, order an Imperial.

 

Simple, I know

Thank you.....the most simple explanation given..ever. 

 

You mean like a menu where you can choose the items you want to buy, as opposed to going into a restaurant being told it's $15 bucks to eat here and everyone gets the same?

 

see what I did there?

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


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  Purutzil

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3/24/14 4:35:31 PM#53
it is anti-consumer, simply put. Collectors editions aren't suppose to give "Must have" perks, like races with actual skills linked to them. Its a shame people are supporting such horrible business practices to net in more cash from you the sucker... I'm sorry I was talking like them, I mean you the consumer.
  Azoth

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Posts: 504

3/24/14 4:36:16 PM#54
Originally posted by Velocinox
Originally posted by orionblack
Originally posted by LuthorX

Think of it in the same terms as going out to eat...

 

You are free to order whatever you like from the menu, but you will have to pay for it. Chances are, if you are not willing to pay for a steak, you will not receive a steak.

 

If you want to play an Imperial, order an Imperial.

 

Simple, I know

Thank you.....the most simple explanation given..ever. 

 

You mean like a menu where you can choose the items you want to buy, as opposed to going into a restaurant being told it's $15 bucks to eat here and everyone gets the same?

 

see what I did there?

Even in the all you can eat buffet there is always an A la carte menu for the good stuff.

  CazNeerg

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3/24/14 4:41:20 PM#55
Originally posted by Kayo45

Most wont care. Sheep never care if theyre exploited. This is the DLC culture we're in now ... conditioned to accept things like this as the norm because "theyre a business" and "doesnt specifically bother me," so they gladly accept the fact theyre treated like cash cows to be milked as much as possible over expecting to be treated like valued customers with dignity. Theyre the reason companies like EA, Ubisoft, etc continue to do what they do.

They bend over, take it, then gladly offer more money for seconds.

If you enjoy something, then you aren't being "exploited" by someone who gives it to you at a price you are willing to pay.

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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

  Velocinox

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3/24/14 4:45:59 PM#56
Originally posted by Azoth
Originally posted by Velocinox
Originally posted by orionblack
Originally posted by LuthorX

Think of it in the same terms as going out to eat...

 

You are free to order whatever you like from the menu, but you will have to pay for it. Chances are, if you are not willing to pay for a steak, you will not receive a steak.

 

If you want to play an Imperial, order an Imperial.

 

Simple, I know

Thank you.....the most simple explanation given..ever. 

 

You mean like a menu where you can choose the items you want to buy, as opposed to going into a restaurant being told it's $15 bucks to eat here and everyone gets the same?

 

see what I did there?

Even in the all you can eat buffet there is always an A la carte menu for the good stuff.

So very true, good sir!

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  Leiros

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3/24/14 4:49:04 PM#57

This was actually a smart move on their part. I was really disappointed when I first heard that there wasn't going to be an Imperial race in TESO. I've played an Imperial since Morrowind and was kind of bummed. I admit, the other perks were not enough to make me buy a collector's edition alone. However, the addition of the Imperial race convinced me to buy it. I don't see what the big deal is anyway... it will be available as an unlock through the in game store at some point. By then it will also cost less than what I paid for the CE. I don't mind spending money on a game if I enjoy it. This game is completely enjoyable without playing as an Imperial ... but it's just a personal preference of mine. After buying the ridiculously expensive $200 SWTOR CE you'd think I'd have learned my lesson. I guess if the game bombs then I will at least have a Molag Bal statue to keep my Darth Malgus statue company.

  Dreamo84

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3/24/14 4:52:38 PM#58
No, because there's already boring humans in the game. I'm actually mad they didn't include something cooler and more worth buying. The horse is ok, but the rest is pretty lame. Give us some crazy new race never seen in TES!!

  Dreamo84

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3/24/14 4:54:24 PM#59
Originally posted by Leiros

This was actually a smart move on their part. I was really disappointed when I first heard that there wasn't going to be an Imperial race in TESO. I've played an Imperial since Morrowind and was kind of bummed. I admit, the other perks were not enough to make me buy a collector's edition alone. However, the addition of the Imperial race convinced me to buy it. I don't see what the big deal is anyway... it will be available as an unlock through the in game store at some point. By then it will also cost less than what I paid for the CE. I don't mind spending money on a game if I enjoy it. This game is completely enjoyable without playing as an Imperial ... but it's just a personal preference of mine. After buying the ridiculously expensive $200 SWTOR CE you'd think I'd have learned my lesson. I guess if the game bombs then I will at least have a Molag Bal statue to keep my Darth Malgus statue company.

People keep saying it will be available as an unlock later. But we really have no proof of this. Why is everyone psychic on these forums? All we know for sure is you can upgrade to the imperial edition entirely.

  Bad.dog

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3/24/14 4:54:36 PM#60
Originally posted by Aroukos
Originally posted by Azzras
Originally posted by Alber_gamer
I can already see that ESO will fail very hard. All these crappy things that fanboys are letting slip under the carpet will be noted once their honeymoon with the game ends, and hell will break loose.

I feel for those going to play WildStar more than ESO.  They have an entire HOUSE behind a paywall.

Also, did you see the armor?  Ouch.

 

 

At least Wildstar Box cost less and sub can be obtained through in game currency too. You also have all the races unlocked and ppl in Europe have their servers in EU!

Must be different than in Canada ...here we have to pay for blockbuster releases and mature content but cartoons are free

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