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  Datastar

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OP  3/20/14 8:45:51 PM#21
Originally posted by jdlamson75
Originally posted by Datastar
Im just saying they butchered the experience for me and many many more, i have several friends who participated in that last beta for the first time and wont touch this game after that.  It made me look like a fool to them for recommending this title to them based on prior play sessions i had.  Are they addressing the broken quests yes, are they making the starting islands easier to get to from the city yes, but did they fix the flow and continuity the game previously had at the start hell no.

Your friends won't play because the tutorial isn't the best?  The tutorial area?  The part that equals out to be less than 1% of what they'll see should they decide to play on?  Tutorial zone?  Tutorial?  We talkin' 'bout tutorial, man.  Tutorial.  It's a tutorial.

In a mmorpg crowded market with many options and many failed titles that left a bad taste in many peoples mouths is it so hard to believe that all a game gets anymore is its first impressions?

  Zegaloth

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3/20/14 8:47:11 PM#22
Originally posted by Datastar
Originally posted by Zegaloth

Caps lock so everyone can hear you.

 

I run a weekly Palladium campaign so yes I lift.

I just don't whine on a 3rd party forum about miniscule issues as if they are game breaking. Losing immersion for a 1/10th of a second isn't a big deal to me, and they will probably fix the lore to properly fit the change, but complaining on MMORPG like its going to destroy the game is hilarious.

Well i just wanted to make my point clear as you seemed to not clearly understand the issue at hand, now that you do perhaps ill take my finger off the shift button.  As someone who has pre-ordered a product I have the right to voice my opinion and be concerned with the actions taken by ZOS to sacrifice story and lore to make the game easier(which was already easy to begin with). So on that note while you are entitled to your opinion unless you've got something constructive to add i bid you farewell as my eyes will gaze elsewhere in the future.

Well then why don't you go to the official forums and voice them in a spot that matters? I seriously doubt Zenimax employees would come to a site where almost every topic is someone whining about the game, or heralding its death.
 If you want to provide constructive support for the game you pre ordered then do it, but here isn't the place unless you are linking to a thread on their forums pertaining to what you are so irate about.

 

I pre ordered, and I am fine with the change as long as the change the 3 or 4 lines of dialogue that doesn't sync up with you traveling by boat instead of falling out of the sky (Which I could really care less about anyways).

  Datastar

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OP  3/20/14 8:48:15 PM#23
Originally posted by Zegaloth
Originally posted by Datastar
Originally posted by Zegaloth

Caps lock so everyone can hear you.

 

I run a weekly Palladium campaign so yes I lift.

I just don't whine on a 3rd party forum about miniscule issues as if they are game breaking. Losing immersion for a 1/10th of a second isn't a big deal to me, and they will probably fix the lore to properly fit the change, but complaining on MMORPG like its going to destroy the game is hilarious.

Well i just wanted to make my point clear as you seemed to not clearly understand the issue at hand, now that you do perhaps ill take my finger off the shift button.  As someone who has pre-ordered a product I have the right to voice my opinion and be concerned with the actions taken by ZOS to sacrifice story and lore to make the game easier(which was already easy to begin with). So on that note while you are entitled to your opinion unless you've got something constructive to add i bid you farewell as my eyes will gaze elsewhere in the future.

Well then why don't you go to the official forums and voice them in a spot that matters? I seriously doubt Zenimax employees would come to a site where almost every topic is someone whining about the game, or heralding its death.
 If you want to provide constructive support for the game you pre ordered then do it, but here isn't the place unless you are linking to a thread on their forums pertaining to what you are so irate about.

 

I pre ordered, and I am fine with the change as long as the change the 3 or 4 lines of dialogue that doesn't sync up with you traveling by boat instead of falling out of the sky (Which I could really care less about anyways).

I have thank you, as well as on Reddit AMA but thanks for checking.  In fact this is the best place to post as many people come here before they buy a new mmorpg, this is one of the very places where the change came from initially as well but once again ive put my eyes apon your text and left equally dissatisfied there wont be a third time.

  Stiler

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Joined: 10/19/05
Posts: 599

3/20/14 8:49:54 PM#24

I do not get some of the people that are getting so upset over this change.

 

If you read any news or previews, before the NDA was dropped when the gaming sites were allowed to post impressions a while back almost ALL of them were negative and terrible BECAUSE of this "starting island."

They talked about how it felt enclosed and not "open" like a TES game, it was a bunch of negative press all around.

 

Then finally when they got off the starting islands and into the game further the impressions started to drastically change for hte better.

 

It was obvious the starting islands were giving people a bad "first impression" of the game whereas the main islands were giving a much better impression.

 

So Zenimax made them OPTIONAL, they were a pain to find and so now they are adding the npc right outside the door from where you start on the main island that will lead new players and people to the starting islands IF they wish to go there.

 

So how on earth is this BAD in any way? It gives peopel a way to skip it, it allows for that "open" feeling of the TES seires, and the area's that you wanted are STILL there.

 

This has to be one of the strangest things I've seen people get upset over.

  Mardukk

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3/20/14 8:53:27 PM#25
OP, your friends are willing to quit an MMO because the story is a bit disjointed?  Why are they playing MMO's for the "story" anyway, I thought single player games and books were for telling stories.
  Datastar

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Joined: 5/07/13
Posts: 193

 
OP  3/20/14 8:53:31 PM#26

  I am not alone so silly people unite

Poll: About the starting zone (477 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you miss the old weapon choice in the prison? Voted Yes (362 votes [76.05%]) No (90 votes [18.91%]) No opinion (24 votes [5.04%])

Do you feel the story line is now broken? Voted Yes (239 votes [50.21%]) No (186 votes [39.08%]) No opinion (51 votes [10.71%])

Do you want to skip the starting island? Yes (61 votes [12.82%]) Voted No (378 votes [79.41%]) No opinion (37 votes [7.77%])

Do you mind poping on the starter island then taking the boat to the main land? Yes, let me pop directly on the main island (57 votes [11.97%]) Voted No, I'm ok with that (377 votes [79.20%]) No opinion (42 votes [8.82%])

Would you prefer the option: "Go to the starter island" and "Skip the starter island" to pop at the end of the prison? Voted Yes (296 votes [63.38%]) No, it's fine like it is now (86 votes [18.42%]) Other, please precise in a comm (31 votes [6.64%]) No opinion (54 votes [11.56%])

  baphamet

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3/20/14 8:54:27 PM#27


Originally posted by Datastar
Im just saying they butchered the experience for me and many many more, i have several friends who participated in that last beta for the first time and wont touch this game after that.  It made me look like a fool to them for recommending this title to them based on prior play sessions i had.  Are they addressing the broken quests yes, are they making the starting islands easier to get to from the city yes, but did they fix the flow and continuity the game previously had at the start hell no.

many many more people were complaining about the starter islands being forced upon them, the ones you say were "perfection".

you can't please everyone but at least this gives you the option.

i do agree that they should make it an option to leave rather than take a boat there but i think they do it that way because they don't know how to put it in the story where it would make sense.

that said, i don't think it's that big of a deal for most and its better than having all those people pissed because they have to do the starter islands.

honestly, if something so trivial makes you not want to play the game, you were probably going to rage quit over something else trivial eventually anyways.

  Zegaloth

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3/20/14 8:54:44 PM#28
Originally posted by jdlamson75
Originally posted by Datastar
Im just saying they butchered the experience for me and many many more, i have several friends who participated in that last beta for the first time and wont touch this game after that.  It made me look like a fool to them for recommending this title to them based on prior play sessions i had.  Are they addressing the broken quests yes, are they making the starting islands easier to get to from the city yes, but did they fix the flow and continuity the game previously had at the start hell no.

Your friends won't play because the tutorial isn't the best?  The tutorial area?  The part that equals out to be less than 1% of what they'll see should they decide to play on?  Tutorial zone?  Tutorial?  We talkin' 'bout tutorial, man.  Tutorial.  It's a tutorial.

He isn't even really talking about the tutorial zone. He is talking about 3 or 4 lines of dialogue. God forbid that they make a change in beta, and mess up a part of it.

 

Link to your forum and reddit posts that you made then. I am not going to put forth effort into supporting your cause if all you can provide is that you and "Many" others don't like it. I doubt that the "Many" you claim are even close to the majority.

  Appok

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Joined: 7/13/12
Posts: 20

3/20/14 8:57:25 PM#29

I like how everyone was up in arms against the crap starter island, so they changed it so you can skip it but able to go back and their are still complaining going on. Just shows you cannot please everyone

 

BTW i only read the title of this thread.

  jdlamson75

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Joined: 12/27/08
Posts: 948

There's some lovely filth down here.

3/20/14 8:57:49 PM#30
Originally posted by Datastar

  I am not alone so silly people unite

Poll: About the starting zone (477 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you miss the old weapon choice in the prison? Voted Yes (362 votes [76.05%]) No (90 votes [18.91%]) No opinion (24 votes [5.04%])

Do you feel the story line is now broken? Voted Yes (239 votes [50.21%]) No (186 votes [39.08%]) No opinion (51 votes [10.71%])

Do you want to skip the starting island? Yes (61 votes [12.82%]) Voted No (378 votes [79.41%]) No opinion (37 votes [7.77%])

Do you mind poping on the starter island then taking the boat to the main land? Yes, let me pop directly on the main island (57 votes [11.97%]) Voted No, I'm ok with that (377 votes [79.20%]) No opinion (42 votes [8.82%])

Would you prefer the option: "Go to the starter island" and "Skip the starter island" to pop at the end of the prison? Voted Yes (296 votes [63.38%]) No, it's fine like it is now (86 votes [18.42%]) Other, please precise in a comm (31 votes [6.64%]) No opinion (54 votes [11.56%])

OK, so where's the option that says "I'm not going to play the game because I don't like the changes made to the

  Datastar

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OP  3/20/14 8:58:03 PM#31
Originally posted by Zegaloth
Originally posted by jdlamson75
Originally posted by Datastar
Im just saying they butchered the experience for me and many many more, i have several friends who participated in that last beta for the first time and wont touch this game after that.  It made me look like a fool to them for recommending this title to them based on prior play sessions i had.  Are they addressing the broken quests yes, are they making the starting islands easier to get to from the city yes, but did they fix the flow and continuity the game previously had at the start hell no.

Your friends won't play because the tutorial isn't the best?  The tutorial area?  The part that equals out to be less than 1% of what they'll see should they decide to play on?  Tutorial zone?  Tutorial?  We talkin' 'bout tutorial, man.  Tutorial.  It's a tutorial.

He isn't even really talking about the tutorial zone. He is talking about 3 or 4 lines of dialogue. God forbid that they make a change in beta, and mess up a part of it.

 

Link to your forum and reddit posts that you made then. I am not going to put forth effort into supporting your cause if all you can provide is that you and "Many" others don't like it. I doubt that the "Many" you claim are even close to the majority.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1495176-about-the-skip-the-starting-zone/

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1495934-starter-islands-the-continuing-saga/

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  • Welcome to the ESO AMA! by elderscrollsonline

     

    Ryzengar 

    My question is: Why was the starter islands removed as a default location to go to after you escape the prison despite all of the negative feedback received? I for one sorely dislike the new starting experience in its current iteration and would like clarification on how we can expect our starting experience to be at Early Access as my pre-order at this point is questionable to me.

     

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  SirBalin

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3/20/14 8:59:37 PM#32
What's it matter, you don't have to opt out..the people like me that could care less about lore skip it...those that do care about it don't...whats the problem?

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  Zegaloth

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3/20/14 9:04:32 PM#33
Thanks for posting to your other threads.
  Skeeter50

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3/20/14 9:04:53 PM#34
Note to ZOS: Make and play YOUR game. The vocal minority is a danger to all developers.
  Hokie

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Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play.

3/20/14 9:06:16 PM#35

I have to agree with you Datastar. I seen no reason to eliminate the starter islands. The game didnt magically open up at the starter cities. As a matter of fact it felt grindy. I didnt have that great of armor and it wasnt that fun without the weapon skills and weapon unlocks that I got from doing the starter island.

 

I think it was a stupid choice. I didnt know I could go back to the starter island till I accidentally ran across and NPC who offered to take me there.

The starter islands are better structured for new characters. They give you a chance to try out different weapons and skills at a better set pace.

Its not where youre at that makes the game feel open, its about level 9 to 10 when more play options become unlocked that it feels more "open" like Skyrim or Oblivion.

 

I think they are doing a disservice to new customers, and shooting themselves in the nutz at the same time by making the starting islands optional.

If they are going to stick with the bad advice then there should be an option with a description after a player leaves Cold Harbor that says something like.

"Welcome to the Elder Scrolls Online."

"You have two starting area choices. The starting island, or your factions capital city."

"We recommend as a new player, or a returning player, you travel to the starting island. The game was designed to introduce you to the world of Tamriel though this starting area by giving you a more structured leveling experience. It was designed to introduce you to group dungeons while equipping your character in better gear, gold, crafting supplies, and recipes. Along with introducing you to the overall storyline of the game."

"We only recommend you travel to the faction city if you have a guild (or another character) that will equip and support you till roughly level 12. Playing without this support may make for an unenjoyable first few levels and gaming experience."

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  Geriden

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3/20/14 9:07:03 PM#36

Yea wasnt a huge fan of the starting zones myself, and well the game in general but it does have a lot of fans.

But in the last beta i started a different faction and was totally confused about where i was, Now i dont get why they didnt just keep it the same but have a npc by the harbour or some where where you can just ask to leave the island instead of plopping you in the starting city. I just dont get zenimax they seem to just make stupid moves all over the place.

 

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3/20/14 9:08:22 PM#37
Originally posted by Mardukk
OP, your friends are willing to quit an MMO because the story is a bit disjointed?  Why are they playing MMO's for the "story" anyway, I thought single player games and books were for telling stories.

MMORPG, not just MMO.  Lots of people play RPGs for the story.  Quitting over it is stupid, since the content is still there and you just have to click on one extra NPC to get back to it, but the way they are doing it is poorly thought out, and does break the flow of the narrative.

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  Datastar

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OP  3/20/14 9:09:43 PM#38
Originally posted by Zegaloth
Thanks for posting to your other threads.

You are quite welcome, alot to read there, i may not be the best public speaker but there are many who word it much better than I in those posts.

  orionblack

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3/20/14 9:12:07 PM#39
Originally posted by Datastar
thats not a fix its a bandaid thats falling off if you havent participated in the last few beta's you wouldnt understand.

I guess you haven't been reading other peoples thoughts prior to this, but the reason they did this is because apparently the starter islands were to tedious for the new generation of players to bother with, hence why they put in the new quest npc to go back to the islands. Blame the people who didn't have patience to spend 20-30 mins to get off the island.

  User Deleted
3/20/14 9:12:08 PM#40

Yeah, I'm with the OP on this one, I looked everywhere for the quest to take me back to starter islands, and none was to be found or hinted at anywhere.

 

However I really did enjoy the option to go anywhere in the main starting city,  So I would like it if they gave me a quest that allows me to go to starter zones from the very start, but not cut me off from the main city either.

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