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  LordZeik

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Joined: 2/17/08
Posts: 194

3/20/14 2:51:30 PM#101
We went from overly optimistic, back to a depressive state of the game is going f2p. That was fast..... Seems like the only games that people deem as "successful" on this site are non mmorpgs. Hell we could put a race game up on here and everyone will praise it and say how much they like the sharp turns. But, if someone managed to do a sort of racing mmo hybrid. People would say it will suck and be dead in a week or be the worst f2p/p2p/b2p ever. >_>; Can we at least give the game some time to breathe before we push all our expectations or lack there of on the poor title!
  Thornrage

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3/20/14 2:55:11 PM#102

I'll be surprised at 1 million at the end of the year.

It is highly unlikely this game will reach 10 million in 5 years.

  Tbau

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Joined: 3/07/14
Posts: 407

3/20/14 2:57:48 PM#103
Originally posted by LordZeik
Can we at least give the game some time to breathe before we push all our expectations or lack there of on the poor title!

 As long as a game is hyped to the point some AAA MMOs are, this is going to happen. They cant be realistic in how they promote their game and especially this one has tried to cater to SRPG players, MMO PvE players, MMO PvP players as well as Multi-player game players, so, expect the obvious to happen.

  Phry

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3/20/14 3:04:10 PM#104
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Ah, yes, this is the new '"future-ex-WoW-killer".

Wait, where have I heard that before...

Its more a case of when haven't we heard this before really, but i do agree with you. Personally i think it will be totally hillarious 3 months post launch, although by then yet another game will be the new 10 million player spectacular never to be repeated superlatives included.... well you get the picture...

  Aeonblades

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3/20/14 3:20:41 PM#105
Game will sell 2 million in preorders, 5-7 million by year's end. Will retain between 1.5-3 mil subs.

Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
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  Nadia

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3/20/14 3:25:31 PM#106
Originally posted by Laughing-man

10 Million?

5 Million?

Try more  like 1-3 million, and that's being optimistic.

agree more realistic

3 million is a great number if it happens - especially for a sub game

  Giubba

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Joined: 1/16/08
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3/20/14 3:27:40 PM#107
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Ah, yes, this is the new '"future-ex-WoW-killer".

Wait, where have I heard that before...

+1

  Knotwood

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Joined: 2/08/14
Posts: 1117

 
OP  3/20/14 3:28:31 PM#108
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Ah, yes, this is the new '"future-ex-WoW-killer".

Wait, where have I heard that before...

Its more a case of when haven't we heard this before really, but i do agree with you. Personally i think it will be totally hillarious 3 months post launch, although by then yet another game will be the new 10 million player spectacular never to be repeated superlatives included.... well you get the picture...

Different demographics then WoW and most MMO's.

 

  Knotwood

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Joined: 2/08/14
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OP  3/20/14 3:29:53 PM#109

I can agree that a lot of players wont accept this title as of yet, but I got to be honest I never knew so many people would look those beta numbers and say less players would play then the amount of players in any game!

 

When was the last game you seen, where less people bought it then the number of players they had in beta?

  Knotwood

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OP  3/20/14 3:31:26 PM#110

The right AAA game has not come out until now to be able to do this. GW2 and SWTOR, I never even played, I knew that GW2 would get no development because of its box price and no sub, I knew SWTOR was a sci fi game that only had SW in name but a really horrible EA games behind it, Bioware was good but bioware did not have the quality of graphics that ESO is using only because of techonolgy advances in that short period of time. EA games also has stock holders, big hit right there, I have never seen a major EA title yet, and think bioware was the only reason for this, but the business model of EA games is a lot like that of SOE, which never invests more then they have to and they monetize to such a degree that normal development does not get done.


When you look at Zennimax, you see a great CEO who could really get some global advertisement on this game going, you got a AAA rated company, you also have no shareholders who have to be pleased so every penny can go to development instead of other peoples pocketbooks. They have really high A+ professional customer service that is equal to every other A+ company on the BBB. On top of all this, you have a Game Name that has just sold 20 million copies of a game its MMO is almost identical to. You have Millions of single player gamer fans, you have a new generation of gamers who were all raised on computers entering the gaming industry worldwide. A game company also that has set up backups for Overflow servers on launch day.... All we are missing now for post launch 10 million subs is adverstisment the size of WoW's.


To finish my point and last statement, this doesn't have to be a WoW killer it doesn't even have to compete with wow, because the demographics of this games player base are mainly single players, and MMO old school gamers who have been starved for this kind of game for years. All these thigns I list in the last paragraph with this one, is enough evidence to see clearly

  Aeonblades

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Joined: 10/12/12
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3/20/14 3:34:17 PM#111
Originally posted by Knotwood

The right AAA game has not come out until now to be able to do this. GW2 and SWTOR, I never even played, I knew that GW2 would get no development because of its box price and no sub, I knew SWTOR was a sci fi game that only had SW in name but a really horrible EA games behind it, Bioware was good but bioware did not have the quality of graphics that ESO is using only because of techonolgy advances in that short period of time. EA games also has stock holders, big hit right there, I have never seen a major EA title yet, and think bioware was the only reason for this, but the business model of EA games is a lot like that of SOE, which never invests more then they have to and they monetize to such a degree that normal development does not get done.

 


When you look at Zennimax, you see a great CEO who could really get some global advertisement on this game going, you got a AAA rated company, you also have no shareholders who have to be pleased so every penny can go to development instead of other peoples pocketbooks. They have really high A+ professional customer service that is equal to every other A+ company on the BBB. On top of all this, you have a Game Name that has just sold 20 million copies of a game its MMO is almost identical to. You have Millions of single player gamer fans, you have a new generation of gamers who were all raised on computers entering the gaming industry worldwide. A game company also that has set up backups for Overflow servers on launch day.... All we are missing now for post launch 10 million subs is adverstisment the size of WoW's.

 

To finish my point and last statement, this doesn't have to be a WoW killer it doesn't even have to compete with wow, because the demographics of this games player base are mainly single players, and MMO old school gamers who have been starved for this kind of game for years. All these thigns I list in the last paragraph with this one, is enough evidence to see clearly

Pretty much spot on, I agree with everything said here. It's not even the same demographic of gamers. There will always be an overlap of course, but DAoC fans have been waiting for a successor for years and the ES IP alone has millions of fans around the world.

Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
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  Nadia

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3/20/14 3:36:56 PM#112
Originally posted by Knotwood

When you look at Zennimax, you see a great CEO who could really get some global advertisement on this game going, you got a AAA rated company, you also have no shareholders who have to be pleased so every penny can go to development instead of other peoples pocketbooks.

every game company lines peoples pocketbooks - its part of running a business

  MsPtibiscuit

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Joined: 2/24/14
Posts: 160

3/20/14 3:39:27 PM#113
Originally posted by Knotwood

The right AAA game has not come out until now to be able to do this. GW2 and SWTOR, I never even played, I knew that GW2 would get no development because of its box price and no sub, I knew SWTOR was a sci fi game that only had SW in name but a really horrible EA games behind it, Bioware was good but bioware did not have the quality of graphics that ESO is using only because of techonolgy advances in that short period of time. EA games also has stock holders, big hit right there, I have never seen a major EA title yet, and think bioware was the only reason for this, but the business model of EA games is a lot like that of SOE, which never invests more then they have to and they monetize to such a degree that normal development does not get done.

 


When you look at Zennimax, you see a great CEO who could really get some global advertisement on this game going, you got a AAA rated company, you also have no shareholders who have to be pleased so every penny can go to development instead of other peoples pocketbooks. They have really high A+ professional customer service that is equal to every other A+ company on the BBB. On top of all this, you have a Game Name that has just sold 20 million copies of a game its MMO is almost identical to. You have Millions of single player gamer fans, you have a new generation of gamers who were all raised on computers entering the gaming industry worldwide. A game company also that has set up backups for Overflow servers on launch day.... All we are missing now for post launch 10 million subs is adverstisment the size of WoW's.

 

To finish my point and last statement, this doesn't have to be a WoW killer it doesn't even have to compete with wow, because the demographics of this games player base are mainly single players, and MMO old school gamers who have been starved for this kind of game for years. All these thigns I list in the last paragraph with this one, is enough evidence to see clearly

I'm sorry, it may not be obvious for you, but I swear I'm reading the same thing that I've read one year and a half.

"Yeah, Arena Net is a company that knows how MMO works, they've made Guilds Wars which is a well known MMO in the PvP genre. An AAA game that finally understoof what players want (No trinity, no farm, ...)"

And we all know how GW2 ended.

  AmbrosiaAmor

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Posts: 905

3/20/14 3:40:15 PM#114

10 million? No way.

9 million? Yes.

 

  Knotwood

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Joined: 2/08/14
Posts: 1117

 
OP  3/20/14 3:40:41 PM#115
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Knotwood

When you look at Zennimax, you see a great CEO who could really get some global advertisement on this game going, you got a AAA rated company, you also have no shareholders who have to be pleased so every penny can go to development instead of other peoples pocketbooks.

every game company lines peoples pocketbooks - its part of running a business

If you take a private company and compare it to a stock holder company, which one do you see building customers with good products, and what one do you see maximizing profits and going through consumers faster because they have crapy product and are trying to maximize by shady legal terms and selling cheap crap to you?

  Swids2010

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 224

Pay to Win. If it can be earned in game its not pay to win FACT

3/20/14 3:41:49 PM#116

How did you come up with the numbers because even at its at its best wow hit 12 million and that was during Wrath of the lich king so by then it was a few years old plus there was really no other serious completion. By your numbers your expecting this to do better than Aion Rift Swtor Age of conan ff14+ff14arr all combined at there highest sub's you would still be short of ten million.

I expect by the end of the year to be lower than a million 

You have also said it doesn't have to compare to wow but it does because the numbers your spouting would have to make this game the most succesfull mmo ever to reach 10 million it took wow years to build there numbers up your giving about 8-9 months it isn't going to happen there are too many choices out there nowadays. I personally have not decided to buy yet and even if I do will only play till wildstar comes out.

  Knotwood

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Joined: 2/08/14
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OP  3/20/14 3:43:09 PM#117
Originally posted by MsPtibiscuit
Originally posted by Knotwood

The right AAA game has not come out until now to be able to do this. GW2 and SWTOR, I never even played, I knew that GW2 would get no development because of its box price and no sub

I'm sorry, it may not be obvious for you, but I swear I'm reading the same thing that I've read one year and a half.

"Yeah, Arena Net is a company that knows how MMO works, they've made Guilds Wars which is a well known MMO in the PvP genre. An AAA game that finally understoof what players want (No trinity, no farm, ...)"

And we all know how GW2 ended.

You have to address my first sentace first,  I chopped down the reading so you can see what I said about GW2.  No game can develop a game as high quality as ESO can when its not brining in any sub money to pay developers to expand on a games development after launch.

  Nadia

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3/20/14 3:43:47 PM#118
Originally posted by Swids2010

I expect by the end of the year to be lower than a million 

ESO will be on consoles too - in summer

  mmoguy43

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3/20/14 3:46:28 PM#119

ESO has piqued the interests of 5 million people enough to play a free demo.

ok

Let's build the ultimate MMO 1 feature at a time
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/398555/page/1

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  ReaperUk

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Joined: 9/20/06
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3/20/14 3:47:02 PM#120

Around ten people in our GW2 guild played the beta initially and an ESO guild was planned for when the game goes live but after a few weekends, everyone has decided to give the game a miss, P2P is a big turn off for a start, we've all got lots of F2P and B2P alternatives available now.  Nobody can see the game being any good long term and certainly not worth a monthly sub.

I'm sure we are fairly typical. Only a fraction of people trying the game in beta will become long term subscribers. It will be F2P or B2P by the end of the year.

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