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  Bad.dog

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Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 1160

3/20/14 9:03:42 PM#201
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Sethalos

I will be absolutely mind bombed if they don't hit at least 10 million after the first year. Everyone I know is going to play this game, most of them have cancelled accounts from WoW or other MMO's waiting for April to hit to play. There is a lot of excitement out there for this game, and even knowing that there will be some launch month issues, people are excited.

 

This is going to be a HUGE game.

And everyone i know has no interest in this game. We get all kind of gamers but it is hardly fair to assume popularity of a game on basis of people we know.

As far as WOW is concerned, people always cancel their subs to try new games and then go back to WOW. I know this is OP's way of saying that ESO is next wow killer but i doubt anyone takes such posts seriously around here after 6 years of numerous 'WOW killers'.

Be prepared to be mind bombed because this game will NEVER have 10 million subs in one year or beyond.

 

Oh well you win ...the game will never have 10 million subs

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/20/14 9:05:15 PM#202
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Sethalos

I will be absolutely mind bombed if they don't hit at least 10 million after the first year. Everyone I know is going to play this game, most of them have cancelled accounts from WoW or other MMO's waiting for April to hit to play. There is a lot of excitement out there for this game, and even knowing that there will be some launch month issues, people are excited.

 

This is going to be a HUGE game.

And everyone i know has no interest in this game. We get all kind of gamers but it is hardly fair to assume popularity of a game on basis of people we know.

As far as WOW is concerned, people always cancel their subs to try new games and then go back to WOW. I know this is OP's way of saying that ESO is next wow killer but i doubt anyone takes such posts seriously around here after 6 years of numerous 'WOW killers'.

Be prepared to be mind bombed because this game will NEVER have 10 million subs in one year or beyond.

 

It doesn't have to be a wow killer as I said before,  its unreasonable to think that 20 million skyrim copies of elder scrolls sold because they were all WoW fans.  In fact ESO wont even have to compete with wow or most MMO's for playres, it could survive on its single player base alone that will buy it because they loved Skyrim.   I don't think that's so hard to understand.

  Bigdaddyx

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 2047

3/20/14 9:08:22 PM#203
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Sethalos

I will be absolutely mind bombed if they don't hit at least 10 million after the first year. Everyone I know is going to play this game, most of them have cancelled accounts from WoW or other MMO's waiting for April to hit to play. There is a lot of excitement out there for this game, and even knowing that there will be some launch month issues, people are excited.

 

This is going to be a HUGE game.

And everyone i know has no interest in this game. We get all kind of gamers but it is hardly fair to assume popularity of a game on basis of people we know.

As far as WOW is concerned, people always cancel their subs to try new games and then go back to WOW. I know this is OP's way of saying that ESO is next wow killer but i doubt anyone takes such posts seriously around here after 6 years of numerous 'WOW killers'.

Be prepared to be mind bombed because this game will NEVER have 10 million subs in one year or beyond.

 

It doesn't have to be a wow killer as I said before,  its unreasonable to think that 20 million skyrim copies of elder scrolls sold because they were all WoW fans.  In fact ESO wont even have to compete with wow or most MMO's for playres, it could survive on its single player base alone that will buy it because they loved Skyrim.   I don't think that's so hard to understand.

No one is saying that ESO will not be popular and sell well but when the most hardcore fans are laughing at 10 million number you know its time to stop.

  kitarad

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 1596

3/20/14 9:11:18 PM#204

I read many reviews on the beta from the Skyrim players who found ESO lacking in every way. That is why I do not understand how anyone can be foolish enough to be this naive about the numbers of the single player game to be interested in ESO after playing the beta and being unhappy about it.

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/20/14 9:13:44 PM#205
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Sethalos

I will be absolutely mind bombed if they don't hit at least 10 million after the first year. Everyone I know is going to play this game, most of them have cancelled accounts from WoW or other MMO's waiting for April to hit to play. There is a lot of excitement out there for this game, and even knowing that there will be some launch month issues, people are excited.

 

This is going to be a HUGE game.

And everyone i know has no interest in this game. We get all kind of gamers but it is hardly fair to assume popularity of a game on basis of people we know.

As far as WOW is concerned, people always cancel their subs to try new games and then go back to WOW. I know this is OP's way of saying that ESO is next wow killer but i doubt anyone takes such posts seriously around here after 6 years of numerous 'WOW killers'.

Be prepared to be mind bombed because this game will NEVER have 10 million subs in one year or beyond.

 

It doesn't have to be a wow killer as I said before,  its unreasonable to think that 20 million skyrim copies of elder scrolls sold because they were all WoW fans.  In fact ESO wont even have to compete with wow or most MMO's for playres, it could survive on its single player base alone that will buy it because they loved Skyrim.   I don't think that's so hard to understand.

No one is saying that ESO will not be popular and sell well but when the most hardcore fans are laughing at 10 million number you know its time to stop.

Yes because the more people who laugh or vote in real life has always been right?  I laugh at that.  Millions of people have been wrong before.   But I think if you were to take all the forums around the world and added all them up and all gave negative reviews, it wouldn't even matter, why?  Because the player base for betheda is that great.  The only reason they listen to us is the fact we are the loudest and if they can please us, they'll be able to please anyone who isn't vocal in game.    So just because a bunch of people think something is wrong, most definatly does not mean it is wrong.  

 

And yes, a lot of people did say the game was not even going to break 1 million subs...  I laugh at that today just as I did three months ago.

  Mtibbs1989

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 2890

3/20/14 9:17:53 PM#206
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by MsPtibiscuit
I'm happy if they get to 2 million of sales (1 million is already a big number)

Just off the beta tester numbers alone, 5 million on day one is no exaggeration.  Not everyone who is buying the game signed up to test it.  In fact beta tester numbers are always the small number of a game, never more then the buyer numbers of a game.

No no, you might have your information wrong 5,000,000 invites went out. That does not mean 5,000,000 people played the beta. For example, I received my beta key for last weekend's event so I'm technically 1 of those 5,000,000. However, I didn't actually participate.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/20/14 9:20:18 PM#207
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by MsPtibiscuit
I'm happy if they get to 2 million of sales (1 million is already a big number)

Just off the beta tester numbers alone, 5 million on day one is no exaggeration.  Not everyone who is buying the game signed up to test it.  In fact beta tester numbers are always the small number of a game, never more then the buyer numbers of a game.

No no, you might have your information wrong 5,000,000 invites went out. That does not mean 5,000,000 people played the beta. For example, I received my beta key for last weekend's event so I'm technically 1 of those 5,000,000. However, I didn't actually participate.

But you would have had to register your key in order to make you a registerd beta user, meaning you would have to had taken an active role in becoming that number.

  Bigdaddyx

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 2047

3/20/14 9:22:44 PM#208
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Sethalos

I will be absolutely mind bombed if they don't hit at least 10 million after the first year. Everyone I know is going to play this game, most of them have cancelled accounts from WoW or other MMO's waiting for April to hit to play. There is a lot of excitement out there for this game, and even knowing that there will be some launch month issues, people are excited.

 

This is going to be a HUGE game.

And everyone i know has no interest in this game. We get all kind of gamers but it is hardly fair to assume popularity of a game on basis of people we know.

As far as WOW is concerned, people always cancel their subs to try new games and then go back to WOW. I know this is OP's way of saying that ESO is next wow killer but i doubt anyone takes such posts seriously around here after 6 years of numerous 'WOW killers'.

Be prepared to be mind bombed because this game will NEVER have 10 million subs in one year or beyond.

 

It doesn't have to be a wow killer as I said before,  its unreasonable to think that 20 million skyrim copies of elder scrolls sold because they were all WoW fans.  In fact ESO wont even have to compete with wow or most MMO's for playres, it could survive on its single player base alone that will buy it because they loved Skyrim.   I don't think that's so hard to understand.

No one is saying that ESO will not be popular and sell well but when the most hardcore fans are laughing at 10 million number you know its time to stop.

Yes because the more people who laugh or vote in real life has always been right?  I laugh at that.  Millions of people have been wrong before.   But I think if you were to take all the forums around the world and added all them up and all gave negative reviews, it wouldn't even matter, why?  Because the player base for betheda is that great.  The only reason they listen to us is the fact we are the loudest and if they can please us, they'll be able to please anyone who isn't vocal in game.    So just because a bunch of people think something is wrong, most definatly does not mean it is wrong.  

 

And yes, a lot of people did say the game was not even going to break 1 million subs...  I laugh at that today just as I did three months ago.

They are not laughing for sake of it though. They are being realistic. You are not.

So in the end when you will be proven wrong they will have the last laugh. Only because Skyrim sold 20 million copes doesn't mean that ESO will have 10 million subscribers. 

ESO isn't the first popular IP to transition to MMO from a single player game. Both Warcraft and Final Fantasy which have been insanely popular over the years didn't get 10 million players in first year. So one wonders how someone can be so naive to believe that ESO will get 10 million subs by end of the year.

 

  saurus123

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Joined: 4/12/06
Posts: 572

3/20/14 9:24:50 PM#209
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by MsPtibiscuit
I'm happy if they get to 2 million of sales (1 million is already a big number)

Just off the beta tester numbers alone, 5 million on day one is no exaggeration.  Not everyone who is buying the game signed up to test it.  In fact beta tester numbers are always the small number of a game, never more then the buyer numbers of a game.

No no, you might have your information wrong 5,000,000 invites went out. That does not mean 5,000,000 people played the beta. For example, I received my beta key for last weekend's event so I'm technically 1 of those 5,000,000. However, I didn't actually participate.

But you would have had to register your key in order to make you a registerd beta user, meaning you would have to had taken an active role in becoming that number.

no no no

i recieved few keys but i never registered for beta test and didnt participate

yet im counted in it

they send 5mil beta keys directly to players or various portals like mmorpg, curse and many others

  Mtibbs1989

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 2890

3/20/14 9:29:45 PM#210
Originally posted by saurus123
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by MsPtibiscuit
I'm happy if they get to 2 million of sales (1 million is already a big number)

Just off the beta tester numbers alone, 5 million on day one is no exaggeration.  Not everyone who is buying the game signed up to test it.  In fact beta tester numbers are always the small number of a game, never more then the buyer numbers of a game.

No no, you might have your information wrong 5,000,000 invites went out. That does not mean 5,000,000 people played the beta. For example, I received my beta key for last weekend's event so I'm technically 1 of those 5,000,000. However, I didn't actually participate.

But you would have had to register your key in order to make you a registerd beta user, meaning you would have to had taken an active role in becoming that number.

no no no

i recieved few keys but i never registered for beta test and didnt participate

yet im counted in it

they send 5mil beta keys directly to players or various portals like mmorpg, curse and many others

Right, this also includes previous testers from their previous betas. I've been invited to about 3-4 now. But I've only ever participated in one. I'm not trying to say the game won't be popular. I'm just saying that the invite count isn't a good estimate as to how many people will purchase the game at release.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

  askdaboss

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Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 638

3/20/14 9:38:47 PM#211

I know a guy who sold his left kidney to pre-order the game because he couldn't wait for his next pay check to play.

Yes, it is going to be that HUGE!

  User Deleted
 
OP  3/20/14 9:39:03 PM#212
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

They are not laughing for sake of it though. They are being realistic. You are not.

So in the end when you will be proven wrong they will have the last laugh. Only because Skyrim sold 20 million copes doesn't mean that ESO will have 10 million subscribers. 

ESO isn't the first popular IP to transition to MMO from a single player game. Both Warcraft and Final Fantasy which have been insanely popular over the years didn't get 10 million players in first year. So one wonders how someone can be so naive to believe that ESO will get 10 million subs by end of the year.

 

I'm glad you mentioned those two games.  because it has a lot to do with what you just said there.   Warcraft did not get anywhere near the entire single player market but it did surpass its own single player base, that is correct, MMO's were largely unknown to a lot of people and eventually after a lot of advertisements, people were curious and then they got addicted to mmo's.   So wow is a success for its day and if you were to compare that to a game of these times.   We have much more of a gamer base in single player billion dollar industry, we also have millions more gamers then those days had,  why just take a look at how big social media has gotten since WoW.   On top of Final Fantasy, those were console game series, a lot of people did not even know what an MMO was also back then.  That game was HUGE success for its time, the game is still alive today because of it.

 

Why is ESO diffearnt from those single player games?  Because of the amount of gamer base of elder scrolls compared to those games, and the fact that its coming out in a day of modern gaming, it has brought in the dawn of new gaming, it has put RPG into an MMO, at which we have never seen since LOTRO, which will draw in a huge single player fan base, WoW was a strategy game before it was a MMORPG game.    FFXI was far from a  true RPG type MMO, it was good for its time but it got old fast because it had lacked the features in games of today.   ESO is definatly going to be the next big game of modern gaming.  No one will pick up a WoW copy as a new player to this gaming industry unless forced by friends,  their numbers have continued to go down because it lacked the updates that could have brought it to be a ESO of today. 

 

I could go on but the final word is that ESO has the single player following that would have dwarfed the following of WoW's single player games in its day.   Final Fantasy also has a strong single player base following, but no where near Bethesda's following either.  its got a japan base grind gamestyle to it also, and is boarderling scifi fantasyof another genre,  has a lot of mistakes in its past with gamers, or it could have gotten bigger.   ESO is a true west game and has massive amounts of single player followers unlike both of those games had in its launch days.  I hope this wasn't too long to explain this simple fact.

  Dullahan

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3/20/14 9:45:31 PM#213
  killion81

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3/20/14 9:52:39 PM#214
Originally posted by Dullahan

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  Bigdaddyx

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3/20/14 9:56:42 PM#215
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

They are not laughing for sake of it though. They are being realistic. You are not.

So in the end when you will be proven wrong they will have the last laugh. Only because Skyrim sold 20 million copes doesn't mean that ESO will have 10 million subscribers. 

ESO isn't the first popular IP to transition to MMO from a single player game. Both Warcraft and Final Fantasy which have been insanely popular over the years didn't get 10 million players in first year. So one wonders how someone can be so naive to believe that ESO will get 10 million subs by end of the year.

 

I'm glad you mentioned those two games.  because it has a lot to do with what you just said there.   Warcraft did not get anywhere near the entire single player market but it did surpass its own single player base, that is correct, MMO's were largely unknown to a lot of people and eventually after a lot of advertisements, people were curious and then they got addicted to mmo's.   So wow is a success for its day and if you were to compare that to a game of these times.   We have much more of a gamer base in single player billion dollar industry, we also have millions more gamers then those days had,  why just take a look at how big social media has gotten since WoW.   On top of Final Fantasy, those were console game series, a lot of people did not even know what an MMO was also back then.  That game was HUGE success for its time, the game is still alive today because of it.

And it took WOW good 7 years to get those numbers, the numbers you claim ESO will gain in less than an year.

Also i don't know what makes you think that WOW is a success for its day when even today it reigns supreme in numbers. You talk as if WOW subs are on steep decline or something. WOW was a success for its day and still is. And yes it is a well known fact that video games is a billion dollar industry. FFXIV was also released on console along with PC and even that game couldn't get that many players and never will. Do you even have any idea how insanely popular  FFXIV is in Asia? if i use your logic than In Japan alone FFXIV should have 10+ million subs. But it didn't happen because a successful  single player consoles doesn't guarantee a successful transition to MMO. All the social media and new million of gamers couldn't make that happen. MMO is a different genre altogether and will never reach the numbers of single player console games whether it is Elder Scroll or Final Fantasy.

 

Why is ESO diffearnt from those single player games?  Because of the amount of gamer base of elder scrolls compared to those games, and the fact that its coming out in a day of modern gaming, it has brought in the dawn of new gaming, it has put RPG into an MMO, at which we have never seen since LOTRO, which will draw in a huge single player fan base, WoW was a strategy game before it was a MMORPG game.    FFXI was far from a  true RPG type MMO, it was good for its time but it got old fast because it had lacked the features in games of today.   ESO is definatly going to be the next big game of modern gaming.  No one will pick up a WoW copy as a new player to this gaming industry unless forced by friends,  their numbers have continued to go down because it lacked the updates that could have brought it to be a ESO of today.

I have already explained to you that you are wrong if you think that ESO player base is bigger than Warcraft or FF fans. I doubt you even know how huge the fan base is of these two IP's. And Final Fantasy was also an RPG and so is the MMO version. All MMOS since WOW have put RPG in MMOS, ESO isn't the the first one to do so.  So far i haven't even seen that much excitement in role playing community when it comes to ESO.  

 

I could go on but the final word is that ESO has the single player following that would have dwarfed the following of WoW's single player games in its day.   Final Fantasy also has a strong single player base following, but no where near Bethesda's following either.  its got a japan base gamestyle to it also, and is boarderling scifi fantasy of another genre,  has a lot of mistakes in its past with gamers, or it could have gotten bigger.   ESO is a true west game and has the followers unlike both of those games.  I hope this wasn't too long to explain this simple fact.

You continue to under estimate the following of WOW and FF, and that is why you are unable to see the flaw in your reasoning behind 10 million subs in less than a year. On top of that your argument that 'ESO is first MMO to put RP in MMO'...and we know why this topic is such a disaster.

By the way your opinions are not facts. But thanks for trying to explain it to me.

  Purutzil

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3/20/14 10:01:52 PM#216
Marketing numbers to to be bloated to make it look as if it has higher appeal. Nothing new, all companies do this. They will selecting show certain favorable numbers that don't really show the real state of things.  The "10 million users" number though seems like they went way over-board. I mean come on, you have to at least pretend its plausible, not overblow it to an extreme degree else it becomes obvious.
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OP  3/20/14 10:18:25 PM#217
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

They are not laughing for sake of it though. They are being realistic. You are not.

So in the end when you will be proven wrong they will have the last laugh. Only because Skyrim sold 20 million copes doesn't mean that ESO will have 10 million subscribers. 

ESO isn't the first popular IP to transition to MMO from a single player game. Both Warcraft and Final Fantasy which have been insanely popular over the years didn't get 10 million players in first year. So one wonders how someone can be so naive to believe that ESO will get 10 million subs by end of the year.

 

I'm glad you mentioned those two games.  because it has a lot to do with what you just said there.   Warcraft did not get anywhere near the entire single player market but it did surpass its own single player base, that is correct, MMO's were largely unknown to a lot of people and eventually after a lot of advertisements, people were curious and then they got addicted to mmo's.   So wow is a success for its day and if you were to compare that to a game of these times.   We have much more of a gamer base in single player billion dollar industry, we also have millions more gamers then those days had,  why just take a look at how big social media has gotten since WoW.   On top of Final Fantasy, those were console game series, a lot of people did not even know what an MMO was also back then.  That game was HUGE success for its time, the game is still alive today because of it.

And it took WOW good 7 years to get those numbers, the numbers you claim ESO will gain in less than an year.

Also i don't know what makes you think that WOW is a success for its day when even today it reigns supreme in numbers. You talk as if WOW subs are on steep decline or something. WOW was a success for its day and still is. And yes it is a well known fact that video games is a billion dollar industry. FFXIV was also released on console along with PC and even that game couldn't get that many players and never will. Do you even have any idea how insanely popular  FFXIV is in Asia? if i use your logic than In Japan alone FFXIV should have 10+ million subs. But it didn't happen because a successful  single player consoles doesn't guarantee a successful transition to MMO. All the social media and new million of gamers couldn't make that happen. MMO is a different genre altogether and will never reach the numbers of single player console games whether it is Elder Scroll or Final Fantasy.

 

1. It wont take that long to get those numbers these days, if you look at the size of the single player gaming industry and MMO players who have been starved of this game, and its transit to conosoles as the only AAA game of its genre to hit consoles. 2.  I'm saying with wow and its decline its only declining because of its lack of development to make it a current game like ESO's graphics and features.  3  FFXIV is out of touch with its own single player base, and was nothing like its single player games.  ESO is without a doubt a Elder Scrolls game and true to its single player game that sold 20 million copies to.  I could go futher but it would require a review of both games.

Why is ESO diffearnt from those single player games?  Because of the amount of gamer base of elder scrolls compared to those games, and the fact that its coming out in a day of modern gaming, it has brought in the dawn of new gaming, it has put RPG into an MMO, at which we have never seen since LOTRO, which will draw in a huge single player fan base, WoW was a strategy game before it was a MMORPG game.    FFXI was far from a  true RPG type MMO, it was good for its time but it got old fast because it had lacked the features in games of today.   ESO is definatly going to be the next big game of modern gaming.  No one will pick up a WoW copy as a new player to this gaming industry unless forced by friends,  their numbers have continued to go down because it lacked the updates that could have brought it to be a ESO of today.

I have already explained to you that you are wrong if you think that ESO player base is bigger than Warcraft or FF fans. I doubt you even know how huge the fan base is of these two IP's. And Final Fantasy was also an RPG and so is the MMO version. All MMOS since WOW have put RPG in MMOS, ESO isn't the the first one to do so.  So far i haven't even seen that much excitement in role playing community when it comes to ESO.  

When I talk about their player base, I'm talking about their single player basees before launch.  If you look at the single player base you will see millions more Elder Scrolls fans then you will FF or Warcraft (the strategy game) before their MMO days.  You only have to look at the amount of copies sold for Skyrim to tell you that, I cant remember a single player game that got over 20 million copies sold yet.   Warcraft III was somewhere around 3 million, Final Fantasy's Lightning Returns sold a mesly 160k copies around.  That's just horrible compared to the base of single players ESO is starting with.

 

I could go on but the final word is that ESO has the single player following that would have dwarfed the following of WoW's single player games in its day.   Final Fantasy also has a strong single player base following, but no where near Bethesda's following either.  its got a japan base gamestyle to it also, and is boarderling scifi fantasy of another genre,  has a lot of mistakes in its past with gamers, or it could have gotten bigger.   ESO is a true west game and has the followers unlike both of those games.  I hope this wasn't too long to explain this simple fact.

You continue to under estimate the following of WOW and FF, and that is why you are unable to see the flaw in your reasoning behind 10 million subs in less than a year. On top of that your argument that 'ESO is first MMO to put RP in MMO'...and we know why this topic is such a disaster.

By the way your opinions are not facts. But thanks for trying to explain it to me.

Warcraf III  3 million copies sold,    FFXIII 5.7 million copies sold, FFXIII - 2   2 million copies sold   Skyrim 20 million copies sold......   bottom line.

Warcraft III sold 3 mill single player copies and has a sub of 8 million.

When FFXIII - 2sells only 2 million copies.., and FFXIV has 700k subs, which was marketed mainly to Japan, and west as an afterthought.

Skryim sold 20 million copies.......    XX? how many ESO?

  grndzro

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3/20/14 10:21:04 PM#218
WOLF TICKETS!!!!!
  dirtyd77

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Your "best"! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

3/20/14 10:22:41 PM#219
Between 2-3 million box sells max is my guess.. I see this game pulling around the same numbers as SWTOR.
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3/20/14 10:24:50 PM#220
The hype is strong with this one. I'm not an ESO hater, but 10 million is just silly. WoW didn't even have close to that number without Asia. Is ESO launching in Asia any time soon?
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