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News & Features Discussion  » [Preview] Rift: Introducing the Liberator - A Raid Healing Warrior

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  Aeonblades

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3/05/14 11:20:38 AM#21
Have always thought Rift's soul system was the pinnacle of MMO class achievement, good to see them finally pushing out the new souls. Will have to log back in and give them a shot when it goes live!

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  Xiaoki

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3/05/14 12:19:10 PM#22

Yeah, sounds neat but will have to wait and see how it is.


Trion is terrible at class balance.


Remember Cleric Defiler? Trion's previous unique healer. Well, the community decided it was a support soul instead because it sucked as a healer.

I foolishly tried to main a Defiler healer the last time I played Rift. Didnt go well.

  GODGANONDORF

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Leave others try you dont have the right to stop'em

3/05/14 12:27:11 PM#23
Originally posted by Holyfleadip

Stupid, a plated healer in a tin can protected by cloth-bag mage tank. 

"Please protect me", he said to the guy in the dress.

 

I do like their model of FTP, I like how they made their cash shop with REX I can buy from in game players, but this is stupid.

haters gonna hate

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  whisperwynd

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3/05/14 12:45:27 PM#24

 Freeeedooomm!!!!

 

Err  wrong context  

  Torvaldr

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3/05/14 12:54:12 PM#25
Originally posted by Skuall
Originally posted by Razeekster
You guys have to remember that new souls are not free. They will cost money to obtain. Playing through the game though and getting money for REX isn't too hard though.
 

any clue about price?

The Storm Legion souls cost around $30 - $35 as a package (for all classes) if I remember right. It was around that ballpark anyway.

It seems sort of spendy but this seems to be one of their monetization points.

Curse you AquaScum!

  JJ82

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3/05/14 1:14:42 PM#26
Interesting, will watch for more 2.7 information to see if they add enough new content to make it worth going back to.

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  dancingstar

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3/05/14 1:18:48 PM#27
Originally posted by reillan

So they're bringing in Paladins...

The name & concept does rather suggest the Holy Liberator, an advanced class from 3rd edition D&D who was more or less a Chaotic Good paladin-type.

  Talemire

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3/05/14 1:48:54 PM#28
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
A new Soul huh? The Soul system should have been a crowning jewel in the MMORPG genre. The ability to create a custom and potentially limitless play style would be an amazing addition to the genre. This was the reason I bought Rift when it launched. And during the leveling process, I experimented with these souls and had a blast doing it. Then I got to 50 and realized the cookie cutter effect was worse here than it was in WoW. 

THIS!!! This, this, this, and so much more of this!

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  tedgp

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3/05/14 1:53:29 PM#29
Those who claim that rifts soul system is the best thing in any mmo, obviously havent played a sandbox mmo.   The soul system in rift is a heavily reduced version of the class systems in sandbox games.
  Po_gg

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3/05/14 2:00:27 PM#30
Originally posted by Talemire
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
A new Soul huh? The Soul system should have been a crowning jewel in the MMORPG genre. The ability to create a custom and potentially limitless play style would be an amazing addition to the genre.

THIS!!! This, this, this, and so much more of this!

This? And what about TSW? :)

Don't get me wrong, I love Rift's soul system (the game itself not so much), and theory crafting classes was the only reason I got SL back in the day when I played Rift - not the massive grind it brought :)

But TSW's Ability Wheel is much more limitless, obviously. Which of course won't stop me to check back and try the new souls after the patch...

 

Bill, "the coolest part we’ve heard so far is that the new souls will allow characters from every Calling (Mage, Warrior, Rogue, Cleric) to perform every role in the game."  actually, I thought SL did that already, with the four SL souls all the callings could do any role.

  tachgb

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3/05/14 2:19:51 PM#31
Brilliant game, easily the best F2P game out there. :)
  Skuz

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3/05/14 2:30:25 PM#32
Originally posted by tedgp
Those who claim that rifts soul system is the best thing in any mmo, obviously havent played a sandbox mmo.   The soul system in rift is a heavily reduced version of the class systems in sandbox games.

Name some.

  Reion1

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3/05/14 2:36:01 PM#33
Damn it! I knew this would happen. I would sub to FF14 and Trion would release new tid bits about the new souls. I specifically wondered if I should continue to level my warrior or not... now I have my answer. Alas, the struggle... my Scholar or a warrior from a different dimension an realm all together./

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  LIOKI

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3/05/14 2:43:37 PM#34
What is the point of even having a feature in the game called classes then? Should these games just have races, and then skill trees that players can choose to distribute points into that shape the character they play? Drop the class tags all together and leave them at the door, opening all items to all races in the games and allow players to choose what fits the character. Raid healing warrior...why not just call it a raid healing heavy armored player? My opinion is that this would be a better system, and Trion is taking steps in the right direction.

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  jtravis

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3/05/14 2:44:18 PM#35
Originally posted by Holyfleadip

Stupid, a plated healer in a tin can protected by cloth-bag mage tank. 

"Please protect me", he said to the guy in the dress.

 

I do like their model of FTP, I like how they made their cash shop with REX I can buy from in game players, but this is stupid.

Stupid to you, maybe. Simple solution: don't play one. Advanced solution (not for beginners): don't gripe at or mock folks who do play one.

  jtravis

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3/05/14 2:46:32 PM#36
Originally posted by Skuz
Originally posted by tedgp
Those who claim that rifts soul system is the best thing in any mmo, obviously havent played a sandbox mmo.   The soul system in rift is a heavily reduced version of the class systems in sandbox games.

Name some.

 

The Secret World. Only one I have any direct experience with, but there may be others. Still, I like, and play, both games.

  Uruketo

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3/05/14 2:52:06 PM#37
A welcome addition indeed.

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  GeezerGamer

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3/05/14 3:25:14 PM#38
Originally posted by Po_gg
Originally posted by Talemire
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
A new Soul huh? The Soul system should have been a crowning jewel in the MMORPG genre. The ability to create a custom and potentially limitless play style would be an amazing addition to the genre.

THIS!!! This, this, this, and so much more of this!

This? And what about TSW? :)

Don't get me wrong, I love Rift's soul system (the game itself not so much), and theory crafting classes was the only reason I got SL back in the day when I played Rift - not the massive grind it brought :)

But TSW's Ability Wheel is much more limitless, obviously. Which of course won't stop me to check back and try the new souls after the patch...

 

Bill, "the coolest part we’ve heard so far is that the new souls will allow characters from every Calling (Mage, Warrior, Rogue, Cleric) to perform every role in the game."  actually, I thought SL did that already, with the four SL souls all the callings could do any role.

The point wasn't about what other games are able to accomplish. This is about what Rift was supposed to do and didn't.

Now they want to add more souls. Well, I won't say its a bad idea, but I'd rather see them fix the system they have. They should make it work as advertised before they pile new garbage on top of old and we end up with 4 more cookie cutter specs.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Nightbringe1

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3/05/14 3:29:35 PM#39
Originally posted by LIOKI
What is the point of even having a feature in the game called classes then? Should these games just have races, and then skill trees that players can choose to distribute points into that shape the character they play? Drop the class tags all together and leave them at the door, opening all items to all races in the games and allow players to choose what fits the character. Raid healing warrior...why not just call it a raid healing heavy armored player? My opinion is that this would be a better system, and Trion is taking steps in the right direction.

Souls may allow a class to fill specific roles, but often use unique mechanics to do so.

A Chloromancer and a Purifier may both be healers, but they are very different play styles.

An added benefit is, after the raid is over the Chloromancer switches over to an elementalist while soloing. the Purifier may decide to go solo as a shaman. Very different paths.

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  handlewithcare

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3/05/14 4:03:18 PM#40

rift is great I wish I played it when it came out,the game graffix is a bit old for me but a great mmo.

please make a new mmo like rift.

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