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General Discussion  » Do you think ESO will eventually give in to the F2P or B2P model?

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  Kattycake

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OP  3/02/14 10:57:25 PM#1

Just gonna keep this short;

A lot of people, so I've seen/heard from, believe that ESO will turn into what SWTOR once did. TERA switched, The Secret World switched, Rift...etc.

Do you think dishing $15/mo will be a bit much to some players? I mean even ArcheAge in RU Beta is $9/mo for premium.

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  Robokapp

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3/02/14 11:01:51 PM#2

warhammer didn't...

 

it depends if the game's good or not. good games work under any payment model. bad games don't work under any payment model. 

  Kattycake

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OP  3/02/14 11:04:39 PM#3
Originally posted by Robokapp

warhammer didn't...

 

it depends if the game's good or not. good games work under any payment model. bad games don't work under any payment model. 

Right :-P I mean from current beta impressions?

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  Loke666

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3/02/14 11:06:47 PM#4

It will not turn into B2P, B2P games launches like B2P, after that will almost all potential players already own a copy.

F2P is possible, it really depends on if the players support the game or not.

  bestever

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3/02/14 11:07:09 PM#5
I've seen a small group of people state this not many. I don't want it to change at all.
  rodingo

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3/02/14 11:10:52 PM#6
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  Kattycake

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OP  3/02/14 11:11:05 PM#7
Originally posted by Loke666

It will not turn into B2P, B2P games launches like B2P, after that will almost all potential players already own a copy.

F2P is possible, it really depends on if the players support the game or not.

The Secret World is the only game I know of that was Subscription turned to B2P because Guild Wars 2 was their competition at the time (release dates were close together). I'm thinking F2P might happen if the hype drops.

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  a6point6

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3/02/14 11:58:14 PM#8

Don't think so. Everyone i know loves the game. But i think after some time they will have to allow "trials" and a lower subscription fee.

But if they keep the promise with content and keep developing on the player base requirement. Sure but with lower subfee.

They already shown they are fast at taking critic from players and enough is against a thing they fix it.

  Castielle101

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3/03/14 12:02:40 AM#9

I believe the game will go F2P.  ESO, while a great game seems more like an online RPG than an MMO.  It doesn't do anything that any other MMO doesn't do better.  What it does do is let you play ES with friends.  I don't think that's enough to warrant 15$ a month for long.

 

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  whisperwynd

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3/03/14 12:04:53 AM#10

 It will or it won't. Those playing will be either pleased or depending on what the cash shop will then be forced to sell, won't be pleased at all.

 Time will tell.

  laokoko

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3/03/14 12:09:33 AM#11
I dont' think it really matters because some of the f2p games have so many limitations, most people will sill subscribe to it anyway.
  Notimeforbs

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3/03/14 12:10:16 AM#12
Originally posted by rodingo
History has the tendency to repeat itself.  Why should this time be any different?

Because history repeating itself is only a tendency.

  Distopia

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3/03/14 12:10:23 AM#13
Yes, I believe at some point they will, when? I have no idea... I actually quite like the game, and based on what I've seen I'd probably sub long enough to get my fill ( again I have no idea how long that would be). Yet I still believe at some point the nature of  today's gamer will force the game into a F2P type of model. I think that's the fate of just about anything going with a sub these days.

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  Mesk4

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3/03/14 12:17:43 AM#14
the secret world system to me would be the best, b2p and micro transaction for DLC, but TSW was pretty much build for that with that issue system, on TESO it might not be that  great. I'm willing to pay subs as long as they keep their word and they give constant content update.
  Notimeforbs

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3/03/14 12:18:51 AM#15
Originally posted by Castielle101

I believe the game will go F2P.  ESO, while a great game seems more like an online RPG than an MMO.  It doesn't do anything that any other MMO doesn't do better.  What it does do is let you play ES with friends.  I don't think that's enough to warrant 15$ a month for long.

 

Cas

"Online RPG" vs "MMO"

First of all, I disagree - it definitely feels like an MMO.

Second of all... an MMO that feels more like an RPG... but with friends, instead of an MMO, is a good thing.  That's pretty much exactly what the idea of an MMO was always supposed to be in the first place.  Somewhere along the way... apparently, "MMO" changed to mean something else (by virture of the fact that I even have to point this out); started to suck; and adopted F2P to justify keeping people playing just to bring money in.

Having said all of that - I think it will remain Subscription.

  BatCakez

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3/03/14 12:29:19 AM#16
Originally posted by Castielle101

I believe the game will go F2P.  ESO, while a great game seems more like an online RPG than an MMO.  It doesn't do anything that any other MMO doesn't do better.  What it does do is let you play ES with friends.  I don't think that's enough to warrant 15$ a month for long.

 

Cas

Name another game that's like it. Please. I do insist.

 

Don't say Tera, or Wizardry, because that's still horizons off.

  BatCakez

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3/03/14 12:32:28 AM#17
Originally posted by Mesk4
the secret world system to me would be the best, b2p and micro transaction for DLC, but TSW was pretty much build for that with that issue system, on TESO it might not be that  great. I'm willing to pay subs as long as they keep their word and they give constant content update.

TSW went B2P, because F2P probably wouldn't allow them to profit long enough in keeping the game up. Aside from that, the game definitely wasn't subscription material, and the next best thing their grubby little greedy hands could get ahold of, was B2P. If you think their system is the best, lord help us.

Also, GW2 started the B2P trend, not TSW.

  DrunkWolf

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3/03/14 1:01:59 AM#18

Its a 100% fact that it will go free to play.

i would say after about a year.

It honestly should be free to play at launch

  CazNeerg

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3/03/14 1:06:12 AM#19
Every game will eventually reach a point where it's company feels like they aren't getting enough revenue from the subscription only model.  At that point, a given game will either shut down or adopt some kind of Freemium approach.  AAA games tend to reach that point more quickly than lower budget games, because it costs more to maintain their quality level with new content over time.  The successful games are the ones that go Freemium, while the failures skip straight to shutting down.

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  Axxar

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3/03/14 3:21:48 AM#20

I think it will go F2P, but not B2P. There's a lot of criticism and so far everyone I've sent a beta key to has been unimpressed (to say the least) by the game. I don't think it's that bad, but not good enough to play when there's so many games to play I can get more enjoyment out of.

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