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  Cervani

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Joined: 6/11/08
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2/27/14 10:41:35 PM#41

Yeah, I'm seeing bits and pieces taken from at least three MMOs and tossed into this with the label "innovative".  It's not really innovative when someone has done it before you.  EVE Online with PLEX, FFXIV with the housing AND the multiple guild/linkshell, Wakfu with the dungeons on your own property and more besides.

 

That being said, it DOES look like an interesting game... one which I will most likely pick up just to see how it is (I am a glutton for MMOs).

  Jeminai

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2/28/14 12:54:13 AM#42
I'll reiterate.
stems the flow of trolls swarming decent games. long live wild star!
  Swids2010

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2/28/14 1:14:25 AM#43
Originally posted by Atadis
I think the comparisons are fair but when I played it felt more like GW2 in a Wow graphical environment...I just didn't care much for it. I'm not saying that to bash it though if you like it then play it...I just wasn't impressed with what I saw from what I though the game would be.

Same for me felt like I was playing GW2 again the combat is so similar I was personally hoping and actually thought it would be more like tera combat but I can live with it as is had a lot of fun with esper and stalker.

  Mqc_redbaron

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2/28/14 4:02:55 AM#44
I can't understand how people are comparing this games combat to wow, gw2 or any other mmo. The closest game that coins close to W* combat is SMITE. This seems to be the only site where people don't seem to understand the definition of clone.
  a6point6

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2/28/14 4:16:01 AM#45

IT IS A CLONE!

Wow+Hellgate London had a baby, and it was henceforth know as Wildstar!

So i guess age has nothing on it when it comes to making babies.

  hikaru77

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2/28/14 7:08:40 AM#46
Originally posted by BorisTheBlade
Saying that this game is a WoW clone couldn't be further from the truth, if anything the only resemblance to WoW is that Carbine is using the same formula that Blizzard used 10 years ago in taking all the best parts of current MMO's and then sprinkling it with their own brand of awesome on top.

You said it, WoW did it 10 year ago, while you have MMOs and Devs trying to do something different, with epic fails, sure, but also great ideas, but the MMO genre is evolving, learning, even when most of the players didnt notice. TESO as an example have learned about the mistakes of Warhammer and Gw2, and so far what they did with AvA is an huge step forward for the MMO genre, time will tell us the real state, but for now it looks like that. But WS is pretty much a 10 years old MMO.   

  kidaharu

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2/28/14 9:52:45 AM#47

I felt GOOD at lvl 50.

  Crazyhorsek

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2/28/14 10:24:55 AM#48

Wildstar tries so much to be "familiar" to WoW players being so close to WoW that the only big problem is actually by doing that its placing itself in collision path with WoW. Well when you release an mmo at least have the brains to steer clear from WoW - collateral damage is bad enough, but facing a direct hit? Wildstar will be destroyed by WoW and anything good it has, WoW will assimilate and have it next patch.

WoW players already have WoW they dont need a second WoW... and WoW doesnt mean "World of Wildstar" although it kinda seems it does looking at the game... So... WoW will continue and as always leave the usual trail of guts pieces and remains of dead mmos along its path... and Wildstar will soon join this dantesque landscape.

  jimbobfurley

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I am *the* Doctor - the genuine article, you might say.

2/28/14 10:37:25 AM#49
I personally hope that Wildstar is a smashing success.  The art syle is unique and refreshing (although not my cup of tea), and from what I hear Carbine will be putting in every effort to make this a deep world and a truly immersive experience for the player.

  THEchad88

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Confusing use of time...(311 song lyric)

2/28/14 11:56:35 AM#50

The art style of Wildstar being compared to WoW didn't bother me even in the SLIGHTEST. Reason being is because there are enough differences between the two to make them their own unique games. What did NOTHING for me was wildstars lackluster INTERFACE and QUESTING.

Interface is something SOOOOOOOO underrated. And I flat out was confused as to WTH was going on in the quest area for wildstar. Not only that but there were so many quests and it was so confusing that I got frustrated and would just log out.

I felt no obligation to complete the quests because most felt so meaningless. A select few felt immersive to me. This is where wildstar fails to me.

  Ciccero

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2/28/14 12:27:01 PM#51

I dunno how many of you are "newer" gamers, but the 1st step was UO to EQ. That was a radical change in playing layout. Then AC showed up, similar in 3d to EQ but different textures,playstyle allowance .Everything after was "EQ" clonish. WOW came out and it was a super-EQ. People called it an EQ clone and then it took center stage.

Now people call games WOW-Clones...and, to be honest, per 3-d they are all EQ clones and per MMO they are all UO clones.

 

I am looking forward to wildstar as I do with many newer games. The 1st year is always the best. WOW's 1st year was the best by far due to the sheer innovations in quest hubs,spells,player versatility and player interaction. 

Let people call it a wow clone, it is no thing. WOW was a clone as well...people just tend to forget that.

  BadOrb

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2/28/14 1:22:24 PM#52

I think it looks more like Dragons lair and space ace rather than WOW , but what do I know.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  jimbobfurley

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2/28/14 1:28:29 PM#53
Originally posted by BadOrb

I think it looks more like Dragons lair and space ace rather than WOW , but what do I know.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

 

Two games (Dragon's Lair, Space Ace), that sure drained me of quarters ... ah the memories :)

 

  montgojj

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n/a

2/28/14 3:10:26 PM#54
awesome

n/a

  cydoneq

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2/28/14 3:36:56 PM#55
pls, i need a timemachine to drive to 2155 to play the ultimative mmorpg that is going to slave the world world

  fiontar

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3/01/14 4:06:21 AM#56

If Wildstar had actually looked like the first trailers, which actually looked like early Pixar films, I would have been happy. However, it does look like WoW in Space, which isn't a good thing 10 years after WoW.

There is a big reason why it looks so much like WoW. Not only are many key developers former Blizzard devs, but the Art Director came from WoW. Several months ago, there were a series of official screenshots that looked so much like they could have been from WoW it was uncanny. The texture style was identical to the WoW "signature look".

I think they've tried to differentiate a bit more since, but they aren't going to scrap years worth of texture work because of the backlash.

So, yeah, if the game had actually ended up looking like an earlier Pixar film, that would have been killer, but it does look too much like WoW and for many of us, if we wanted WoW, we'd just go back to WoW.

They might still make up for it in game play, but most people are highly visual and if they don't like the look of a game, it's hard to even get the chance to try to win them over on game play.

With ten years of WoW clones failing hard, I just don't get the decision. Even by the time WS first started development, it was clear that trying to clone WoW was a recipe for disaster. Did they think that somehow the problem was that the clones were not good enough clones and that was the problem?

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  kidaharu

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3/01/14 5:29:33 AM#57
Originally posted by fiontar

If Wildstar had actually looked like the first trailers, which actually looked like early Pixar films, I would have been happy. However, it does look like WoW in Space, which isn't a good thing 10 years after WoW.

There is a big reason why it looks so much like WoW. Not only are many key developers former Blizzard devs, but the Art Director came from WoW. Several months ago, there were a series of official screenshots that looked so much like they could have been from WoW it was uncanny. The texture style was identical to the WoW "signature look".

I think they've tried to differentiate a bit more since, but they aren't going to scrap years worth of texture work because of the backlash.

So, yeah, if the game had actually ended up looking like an earlier Pixar film, that would have been killer, but it does look too much like WoW and for many of us, if we wanted WoW, we'd just go back to WoW.

They might still make up for it in game play, but most people are highly visual and if they don't like the look of a game, it's hard to even get the chance to try to win them over on game play.

With ten years of WoW clones failing hard, I just don't get the decision. Even by the time WS first started development, it was clear that trying to clone WoW was a recipe for disaster. Did they think that somehow the problem was that the clones were not good enough clones and that was the problem?

the first trailers you looked are in-game graphics..now..surprised?

zoom in characters.. more!

and WOD is developing the warplot. wildstar already has the warplot. if so, wow is wildstar clon?

WOD is developing the housing system. wildstar already has that. if so, wow is wildstar clon?

  aymanzone

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3/03/14 9:56:23 AM#58
40 man raids? Epic feel? No nerfing nonsense? Fuck the casual criers who can't see all pve raid content? I'm in!!!
  MamasGun

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3/03/14 1:55:27 PM#59

"Why not play WoW?"  "Just go back to WoW."  "WoW did it first, and WoW did it better!" "This game is a clone of WoW!"  "WoW has stylized realism, Wildstar has Cartoon Graphics."  "Mists of Pandaria isn't about Pandas... it's about war."

I can tell Wildstar has the WoW community nervous.  They can hide behind the "W* is WoW 2.0= fail" logic, but I know they are upset at Wildstar.  How?  EVERY WILDSTAR POST HAS WOW PEOPLE LITTERING IT WITH COMMENTS LIKE I MENTIONED ABOVE.

Not just that, but the past couple of WoW updates I've read (both from 3rd party sites and WoW's own forum) have had comments talking about Wildstar, not even WoW. 

So, just being a fly on the wall, and observing all of the things WoW players are -desperately- trying to say about Wildstar lets me know- Wildstar is doing something right.  If you can have a community so up in arms over your game that they only discuss your game being like their game, and not even discussing their own game, then you're on the right path.

I say all of this to say- If you like WoW, you like WoW.  A lot of people thought WoW was boring.  I've tried WoW multiple times and have never ever been able to get into it- between the cartoony graphics not looking as good as they could to the combat system not holding up to todays fast-paced standards, WoW has always been a letdown for me.  But if you like it- good for you, you have your game already, and have for 10 years.  However, some people have been waiting for a game like Wildstar- and it's finally here. 

Wildstar Day 1 purchase+lifetime sub for me and my partner- something I've never done for an MMO, but am eager to do for Wildstar!

 

Loves: SMITE, WildStar, Project Zomboid, PSO2, DCUO,

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All the comparisons
I think it’s dumb and it’s embarrassing
I’m switching off
No longer listening
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  Seasoned

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3/03/14 4:07:27 PM#60

absolutely set a record for the fastest unstall in my entire life. if I were to use a phrase to explain it, WoW and Tera meet one day got married and had a child named WildStar. boring questing typical grind, PVP is sub par, Graphics don't exist, if I had a 5 year old in charge of graphics this is what the end product would be. Just another over hyped MMO with nothing new to offer a typical cash grab.

 
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