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  Knotwood

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Joined: 2/08/14
Posts: 1117

2/26/14 12:30:31 PM#41
Originally posted by kanechart

I just noticed was another post talking about them not sure on the subscription model yet their very sure on it... Massively despises ESO proven in this article by the editor-in-chief

http://skycandy.org/2012/06/taking-us-for-granted/ 

Sum it up Massively did not get a complementary bottle and now their out to cause more harm then good towards ESO.

 

 

 

Good LORD,  I read that article you linked and the author of it smells of spoiled brat syndrome and Arrogance that cannot be measured.  

 

The  Author says that because ESO ignored them and gave exclusives to Game Informer (which happens to be a huge single player game magazine promoted by GAMESTOP) and other small media outlets (which don't stand a chance against big company exclusives), instead of BIG NAME companies like Massively,   somehow translates into ESO not caring about MMO players? 

 

When a Compnay gets so big that it has to have all the Exclusives of a Game company or that game company doesn't care about MMO players,   then its time to BOYCOT THAT COMPANY!

 

They can go to hell for all I care.

  SNAFUdamus

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Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 60

2/26/14 12:54:00 PM#42
Nothing is funnier than the fact that ESO can't even give away keys to this game. There are still thousands left. If this game was going to succeed at all those keys would have all been gone in a NY minute.
  Kuinn

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Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2101

2/26/14 12:58:23 PM#43
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus
Nothing is funnier than the fact that ESO can't even give away keys to this game. There are still thousands left. If this game was going to succeed at all those keys would have all been gone in a NY minute.

 

Nah, I dont even want a key, and I know a bunch of people who dont want to spoil games on betas. Actually the better the game looks, the less likely am I going to aim for the beta.

 

I only want beta keys for games that I fear of being a lot more bad than expected, so I can confirm them being rubbish and not having to waste any more time on them. ESO looks more or less entertaining 1 or 2 monther, who knows, maybe even 3 month surprise.

  cronius77

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1312

2/26/14 1:03:55 PM#44
yeah seriously you guys blocking adds on this site should either unblock the adds or delete your accounts here because thats just messed up. If you want to be part of a free community that  has to pay its staff of writers and server ISP , then they at least deserve to have their adds pay for their business and putting up some blocker because you are that anal deserves nothing but a permanent ban for anyone admitting to doing so. This site provides much more than most others out there reporting mmorpgs and the community is jaded , but still vibrant and active. Losing a site like this would do way more harm any day of the week than good even if you think the articles here are not that great or bias. Go look at massively's community and others like mmogamer etc. they are trainwrecks. Also who cares what massively thinks of ESO, its not like anyone believes their bullshit anyways over there. 
  komobo

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Joined: 8/24/08
Posts: 145

2/26/14 1:04:02 PM#45
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus
Nothing is funnier than the fact that ESO can't even give away keys to this game. There are still thousands left. If this game was going to succeed at all those keys would have all been gone in a NY minute.

Nothing is more fun than THAT even if it was an actual fact?

 

Damn son - you need to go outside, get some hobbies, do something that gives your life meaning ya know. Not worth it spending time on something you dislike or cannot be bothered with but I guess that realization comes with age, or one would hope.

* Waves at Pushkina *

  Tamanous

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 1818

2/26/14 1:04:06 PM#46

The only times I have ever read a Massively article is when people link to them from other sites. The trend toward opinion pieces at Massively has been apparent for a long time and I have no interest in obtaining my information from them. Trends toward opinionated news is rampant over the last few years. It has destroyed the credibility of many news stations and is driven by the trend of sensationalism and so called "reality" programming.

 

I remember when I was young and the very first video game magazines started to be published. I couldn't get my hands on them fast enough. They were little more than news magazines trying to distribute information to the public which is precisely what news is supposed to do. Instead we now see every author trying to thrust their opinion upon us which twists the news they are trying to disseminate to fit their agenda. This is an extremely worrying practice in a "free" society and we should be extremely diligent in recognizing it.

 

I applaud MMORPG of late for moving away from this trend. Give us the information and respect our intelligence and allow open debate. Opinion pieces disguised as news do nothing more than try to bend perspective. This is agenda driven and the downfall of the free press.

You stay sassy!

  Iselin

The Listener

Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 4099

2/26/14 1:12:05 PM#47
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus
Nothing is funnier than the fact that ESO can't even give away keys to this game. There are still thousands left. If this game was going to succeed at all those keys would have all been gone in a NY minute.

You don't suppose the fact that the millions who signed up for beta on their website have all been invited to the stress test might have anything to do with that, do you?

  CrazKanuk

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Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1586

2/26/14 1:19:08 PM#48
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus
Nothing is funnier than the fact that ESO can't even give away keys to this game. There are still thousands left. If this game was going to succeed at all those keys would have all been gone in a NY minute.

You don't suppose the fact that the millions who signed up for beta on their website have all been invited to the stress test might have anything to do with that, do you?

*ding ding ding* I didn't sign up and still got invited to the beta. Oh, and they also sent me along another key I can forward on to a friend. 

Crazkanuk

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  DrDwarf

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2/26/14 1:27:33 PM#49
Originally posted by kanechart

I just noticed was another post talking about them not sure on the subscription model yet their very sure on it... Massively despises ESO proven in this article by the editor-in-chief

http://skycandy.org/2012/06/taking-us-for-granted/ 

Sum it up Massively did not get a complementary bottle and now their out to cause more harm then good towards ESO.

 

 

During your life your false sense of loyalty will do you a lot of harm if you don't reign it in.

 

  alkarionlog

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Joined: 3/19/09
Posts: 1078

2/26/14 1:30:04 PM#50
Originally posted by kanechart

I just noticed was another post talking about them not sure on the subscription model yet their very sure on it... Massively despises ESO proven in this article by the editor-in-chief

http://skycandy.org/2012/06/taking-us-for-granted/ 

Sum it up Massively did not get a complementary bottle and now their out to cause more harm then good towards ESO.

 

 

only thing i'm seeing here really is a old post of someone complaining the devs was not giving him info of the game so they could pass to they readers, and was only doing it so they could keep the info locate on some key websites they could use later, with mostly used for SP games not MMOs, I belive the writer there can have his opnion.

 

but funny here people would even say games like diablo shouldn't even show up here because its not a MMo, but when a website make a note complaing devs are not giving then any info, people want others to stop going there because "hey you are talking bad about my next precious" with come is not that awesome like some people here think will be, but at least this game make me hard to guess the time it will take for it to become a F2P game if it will, it do ahve some good points, but the cash grab they don't even care to try to hide, is a pretty turn off, and even it do give you a elder scroll feel, you can notice pretty fast its not a elder scroll, still find the stats scores too simple, combat is kinda okish, not a trinity too but a healer will be required.

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  Kyleran

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Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 19482

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2/26/14 1:32:08 PM#51
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by inemosz
Originally posted by Acidon

Stopped going to Massively because of things like this prior to ESO and things like this certainly do not help put them back where they used to be.

I'll happily take a page full of advertisements from MMORPG.com versus the biased, bought-and-paid-for drivel over there.

Install adblock plus, problem solved!

Why would i...

 

these advertisements are not disturbing at all.... But they pay the bills of my favourite MMo site

 

He's obviously a F2P supporter, they don't want to pay for anything.

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Distopia

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 15954

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2/26/14 1:51:03 PM#52
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Could it possibly be that the forum-going, blog-commenting, jaded bittervets are ranting themselves into irrelevance?

Take our very own forums for example.

  • If a dev comes here, are they met with any level of respect?
  • Do we ask questions of them or do we interrogate them?
  • Does it seem like the crowd here is anxious to learn about a game or anxious to rip apart a game?

 

Is it possible that the avid MMO gamer - the self-proclaimed 'veteran' or 'old school' MMO gamer - is being passed over by some developers in favor of interaction with and messaging in a far less hostile environment to a far more receptive audience?

 

Well said sir..Well said..

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

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  poyozo

Novice Member

Joined: 5/11/13
Posts: 31

2/26/14 1:54:55 PM#53
Could this be that the post is two years old and you guys have no idea whats really happening?
  Jyiiga

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/03/10
Posts: 1045

2/26/14 1:56:41 PM#54

It doesn't matter what she says, it is how she says it.

Everything that comes out of her mouth makes her sound like "a you know what".

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7636

2/26/14 2:01:56 PM#55

OP is kidding right? Massively has an article ever minute about ESO it seems. 

 

This was posted 42 minutes ago 

Massively - The Elder Scrolls Online explores the creation of its music

 

Massively is heck of a news site in my opinion. They tend to have more in depth game articles. Mmorpg you get less news, but much more entertaining forums. 

  JJ82

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Joined: 12/02/13
Posts: 1101

2/26/14 2:05:03 PM#56
Originally posted by kanechart

I just noticed was another post talking about them not sure on the subscription model yet their very sure on it... Massively despises ESO proven in this article by the editor-in-chief

http://skycandy.org/2012/06/taking-us-for-granted/ 

Sum it up Massively did not get a complementary bottle and now their out to cause more harm then good towards ESO.

Better chance at getting an honest review by a place willing to do things like this than getting one from one of the massive amounts of buttkissing sites that wont say jack in hope not risking losing advertising dollars........at least not until 5+ months after release.

Look at how many games were praised here until long after release and then, its like, well, oops on us.

"People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  noncley

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Joined: 1/16/12
Posts: 637

2/26/14 2:09:19 PM#57
Originally posted by Acidon

Stopped going to Massively because of things like this prior to ESO and things like this certainly do not help put them back where they used to be.

I'll happily take a page full of advertisements from MMORPG.com versus the biased, bought-and-paid-for drivel over there.

It's not the advertisements you have to worry about at mmorpg.com, it's the bought-and-paid-for reviewers. Remember how certain mmorpg.com staffers praised SWTOR ton high heaven?

  spizz

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Joined: 7/11/04
Posts: 2587

2/26/14 2:10:17 PM#58
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by kanechart

I just noticed was another post talking about them not sure on the subscription model yet their very sure on it... Massively despises ESO proven in this article by the editor-in-chief

http://skycandy.org/2012/06/taking-us-for-granted/ 

Sum it up Massively did not get a complementary bottle and now their out to cause more harm then good towards ESO.

 

 

Thats how things work in this world.... Everyone has an agenda... And you need to be smart enough to see them and filter acordingly

 

There was a time when I was in school when I did believe that somthing was written in a book it has to be true.  Because it is a book.

  Iselin

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Posts: 4099

2/26/14 2:12:51 PM#59
Originally posted by JJ82
Originally posted by kanechart

I just noticed was another post talking about them not sure on the subscription model yet their very sure on it... Massively despises ESO proven in this article by the editor-in-chief

http://skycandy.org/2012/06/taking-us-for-granted/ 

Sum it up Massively did not get a complementary bottle and now their out to cause more harm then good towards ESO.

Better chance at getting an honest review by a place willing to do things like this than getting one from one of the massive amounts of buttkissing sites that wont say jack in hope not risking losing advertising dollars........at least not until 5+ months after release.

Look at how many games were praised here until long after release and then, its like, well, oops on us.

The OP's point about bias doesn't really hold water...

 

But having said that, it's not really about butt kissing vs. kicking ass. It's about trying to act like a professional journalist by fact-checking, not sensationalizing and being able to write a paragraph without editorial bias.

 

It seems to be a lost art these days when very few can resist turning everything into an editorial. But it still matters to me. I want details and tons of them--not half-baked bitter opinions about someone's pet detail.

  MikeB

MMORPG.com Community Manager

Joined: 5/27/09
Posts: 5470

2/26/14 2:37:54 PM#60

Hey guys,

As this thread's discussion is more about another site's editorial content than Elder Scrolls Online, this subforum really isn't appropriate for its discussion so I am going to go ahead and lock it.

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
Community Manager
Twitter: @eMikeB

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