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  ThumbtackJ

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2/26/14 11:01:51 PM#21
So are these changes live, or only on test servers? I have a... 60-something Wizard that I haven't touched in a LOOOOONG time. I think I got to the beginning of Hell, maybe end of nightmare difficulty. But if the loot system is better now, I might have to patch up and get back into this.

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  lunatiquez

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2/26/14 11:05:03 PM#22

RMAH has gone for good, right?

I think I'll finally buy the game this month :)

  jdnewell

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2/26/14 11:21:24 PM#23
Originally posted by ThumbtackJ
So are these changes live, or only on test servers? I have a... 60-something Wizard that I haven't touched in a LOOOOONG time. I think I got to the beginning of Hell, maybe end of nightmare difficulty. But if the loot system is better now, I might have to patch up and get back into this.

Yes its Live.

Well worth checking out if you have not played in a long time, many changes since release.

  RedCurry

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2/26/14 11:28:30 PM#24
Glad I checked out the changes, enjoying D3 again. Never thought I'd say that!
  Solar_Prophet

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2/27/14 12:31:13 AM#25

RoS is to D3 what LoD was to D2. Taking a decent game and turning it into a fantastic one.

Using a fire-based PBAOE build on my Wizard, and kicking the crap out of everything on Torment 1. Leveled my Barbarian and my Monk up a bit, and got a few nice legendaries in the process, as well as a ton of rare upgrades as well.

I think Marvel Heroes just got put on the back burner for a while, especially once RoS releases and I can get my hands on a crusader.

Between this, Titanfall, and FFXIV endgame stuff / crafting, I'll be fairly set for entertainment for quite some time by the time April rolls around.

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  roger82

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2/27/14 12:39:12 AM#26

Loving the new loot, its so much better having a moment of "ooohhhhh what will this item be" when you look at your loot instead of "trash, trash, trash, trash, looks ok? Oh, way, trash, trash"

Really takes me back to the Diablo II days loot wise.

Only issue is that I have been playing Marvel Heroes a heap recently and after playing that and having 'movement skills' (rolls, teleports or charges) to get around the place quicker it felt soooo sloooowwww running around.

Loving it a heap though, looking forward to when the expansion actually releases and Adventure Mode is unlocked.

Oh, and finally farmed Izual for the staff recipe and got it to drop. Whimsyshire is certainly a thing, lol.

  bartoni33

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2/27/14 12:43:46 AM#27

Quick question to you all:

I recently completed the game for the first time. I was waiting for RoS to play Act 5 then start over on next difficulty. But I am excited to try the new changes. Can I start playing Act 1 on higher difficulty then go to Act 5 when it comes out? Or do I have to complete it again then go on to 5?

  ThumbtackJ

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2/27/14 12:53:04 AM#28
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by ThumbtackJ
So are these changes live, or only on test servers? I have a... 60-something Wizard that I haven't touched in a LOOOOONG time. I think I got to the beginning of Hell, maybe end of nightmare difficulty. But if the loot system is better now, I might have to patch up and get back into this.

Yes its Live.

Well worth checking out if you have not played in a long time, many changes since release.

Just patched up, and geeze there's a ton of new stuff. I think I'm going to start from scratch though and level up a Witch Doctor seeing as how Blizzard decided to not add the Necromancer >:(   . Hopefully it will be an entirely new, and better, experience.

 

EDIT: Loving how you can start out on any difficulty now and the scaling. Good stuff.

 

EDIT 2: Oh yeah. The loot system is MUCH better now. Only level 14 (almost 15) but so far I've gotten more rare's than you can shake a stick at (that I can actually use for my class!), as well as two legendary's. I got The Crudest Boots around level 12, and then a Nagelring (20 INT, 19 VIT, +6 life per hit, all resource costs reduced by 3%, ranged and melee attackers take 4 damage, and +48% MF) from Skeleton King. 

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  BadSpock

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OP  2/27/14 7:09:14 AM#29
Originally posted by bartoni33

Quick question to you all:

I recently completed the game for the first time. I was waiting for RoS to play Act 5 then start over on next difficulty. But I am excited to try the new changes. Can I start playing Act 1 on higher difficulty then go to Act 5 when it comes out? Or do I have to complete it again then go on to 5?

You can now play on any difficulty at any time.

As long as you have beaten an Act on any difficulty, you can re-play it on any difficulty. If that makes sense.

You no longer have to beat the whole game on Normal, then Hell, and then Nightmare before unlocking Inferno.

The new difficulties are Easy, Normal, Hard, Master, and Torment. (Something close to that)

Then Torment has a slider for +1 through +6.

You have be at level 60 for Torment, but the rest you can do at any level.

I've probably been lurking for way, way too long.

  nariusseldon

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2/27/14 12:26:45 PM#30
Originally posted by inemosz

RMAH has gone for good, right?

I think I'll finally buy the game this month :)

Not yet .. i think it is scheduled for mid-march.

However, all the new good loot 2.0 legendaries are BOA now .. so RMAH won't affect the game anyway.

 

  nariusseldon

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2/27/14 12:29:31 PM#31
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I'm not likely to try it until after the expansion releases and I read up on how well received BOA is.  I don't expect it to work out well, but that's because RNG is a fickle beast and D2 trading just a lot of fun for me.

 

They reduced RNG with smart drop.

I got an upgrade within 2 hours of play ... that never happened so fast in the past.

 

The big thing about BoA is whether or not rerolling stats trying to get perfect rolls is fun enough to keep you going.  Paragon leveling doesn't seem quite as enjoyable a grind now that they removed the MF boosts at each level.

 

But I haven't tried it and I won't let the hype trick me into buying the expansion.  I'll just try to avoid loot 2.0 until I see it in the context of a month after the expansion is released.

The other thing about BOA is prevent people from selling on the AH before it is closed down. BTW, the mystic is not up yet, right? There is no rerolling until RoS.

Sure .. wait it out. Personally i am enjoying it now, and i am looking forward to refresh everything when i level from 60 to 70.

 

  Myrdynn

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2/27/14 12:52:36 PM#32
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by inemosz

RMAH has gone for good, right?

I think I'll finally buy the game this month :)

Not yet .. i think it is scheduled for mid-march.

However, all the new good loot 2.0 legendaries are BOA now .. so RMAH won't affect the game anyway.

 

got my first Legendary last night

Thunderfury!!! 

  IrishChai

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2/27/14 1:00:07 PM#33
Such a huge improvement I don't even know where to start, but most of you have covered the details anyway. I'm loving it. I finally got a legendary drop last night that was useful for my monk, and trying out a couple new builds thanks to several rares adding +XX% boosts towards skills I never tried. Looking forward to the expansion now for adventure mode and the new Act.
  FrodoFragins

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2/27/14 11:06:07 PM#34
Against better judgement I tried it out briefly.  Got a couple of legendaries which was nice.  As always, D3 has the best combat in any ARPG hands down.  I still think I'll mainly stick with Marvel Heroes for a while.  As I already said, a lot rides on how well they designed loot drops and the BOA system and the game can't be fairly judged until a month or two after release and people are firmly entrenched in trying to get perfect loot.
  fivoroth

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2/28/14 3:29:10 AM#35

I haven't tried it but I have bought ROS and can't wait to play it.

Btw guys how are you playing Torment? I thought you needed to be level 70 to play Torment?

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  thinktank001

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2/28/14 4:16:54 AM#36

The consensus of the beta forums is that if you liked vD3, then you will like ROS, but if you did not like vD3, then  you will not like ROS.  

 

I wonder how much of it is true.  

  quixadhal

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2/28/14 6:40:09 AM#37

I played for quite a while yesterday, and much to my surprise, I actually enjoyed it.  About the only gripe I have it that if you want to start a new character, it's very hard to find anyone else to play those early acts with in hard/expert mode.

 

  Methos12

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2/28/14 6:42:30 AM#38
It's a weird complaint, but I have a feeling they made "smart loot" a bit too smart. Such a weird thing to have 90% usable drops all of a sudden. And oh boy, crafting is suddenly useful.

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  BadSpock

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OP  2/28/14 8:51:36 AM#39

The more and more I play the better loot I am getting - but I'm also getting other good loot that isn't great for my current build, but kind of entices me to build up alternate sets for alternate builds.

Best piece of advice I can give:

Don't trust your DPS # on the character sheet!

My build revolves around doing Cold damage - most all of my offensive skills have runes to do Cold damage, and between legendaries and rares I've got something like +50-60% Cold damage.

I'm absolutely wrecking Torment 1.

Each "white" hit is doing 100-200k and my skills crit upwards of 750k.

I have to be pulling at LEAST 100k+ DPS to be burning through the mobs in T1 this fast w/o issue. 

But my character sheet says I'm only doing like 40k.

I don't think it is updating to reflect gear +% damage and skills.

 

I've probably been lurking for way, way too long.

  fivoroth

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2/28/14 12:51:56 PM#40
Originally posted by thinktank001

The consensus of the beta forums is that if you liked vD3, then you will like ROS, but if you did not like vD3, then  you will not like ROS.  

 

I wonder how much of it is true.  

This is a generalisation which no one can make. It really depends on what you didn't like in the original game. RoS made a lot of changes which if you ask me are for the better. 

1. Much better loot, game feels more rewarding.

2. More "endgame" variety.

3. No Auction House

4. Improved Paragon system

5. More useful crafting system

6. Improved difficulty system - a lot of people were complaining about D3 having 4 rigid difficulties which you couldn't skip. Now you can!

 

A lot of people didn't like Diablo 3 because it was an ARPG. I have heard a lot of complaints which pretty much complain about the genre. 

As someone said, RoS is to Diablo 3 what LoD was to Diablo 2. LoD pushed Diablo 2 from an average APRG to THE best APRG I have ever played.

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