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  Sk1ppeR

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2/26/14 3:43:52 AM#101
Originally posted by Cromica
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by Cromica
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Originally posted by Cromica
The gem store never bothered me at all it was the boring game play that ruined it for me.

I guess you've never gotten to an "endgame" dungeon :) Or if you had you've failed miserably. 

One of the good qualities of Gw2 IMO is that they never show you the way in a dungeon. They are keeping the same ideas for the living story. They just drop-in the events and sit back and watch. The players are the one that have to figure out the tactics. And that my friend is fun. 

 

Maybe you need an example, alright! I have 2 right off the bat. 

1) The Marionette/Great Jungle Wurm fights. I failed that shit like 3-4 times before getting it right. 

2) Escape From Lion's Arch. The first time right after the patch my server (or well my Overflow, lol) managed to get 500 citizens out. I was super happy and felt like a god. I mean we just had zerged every event there was, there is no way we could've saved more people right? Wrong! The biggest reward comes at 1200 rescues :) We as a server had to rethink our mentality. So over the course of next few attempts we split into a smaller tight and organized groups and guess what - we did the event, multiple times since then. And that my friend, is why Gw2 is NOT boring

 

P.S: You can always check out the Edge of the Mists WvW map. It has some nice unique mechanics tucked into it :) 

 

The "endgame" in Gw2 is what you make out of it. You are not being forced into a raiding mess (although you can hunt for "raids"), or worse. It all comes at your own terms! 

 

Actually I completed every path of every dungeon multiple times and played up to fractal lvl 35 before it became boring. 

As for the living stories I quit before they really got started, and what I read about it never interested me in the slightest, and zerg v zerg v zerg is a joke.

Well you've missed a great world boss, I kinda pitty you. But it's not too late to check out Lion's Arch, or the great jungle wurm but if u decide to check out the latter, prepare your eyes for some shitstorm in the map chat if you mess something up xD (The boss requires great coordination between 3 groups)

As for the ZvZvZ comment you made. Be real man. Think of at least one massive game (not just by term ... high online concurrency) where big guilds doesn't gun out their blobs (a.k.a. zergs) 

As an ex-Lineage 2 player which had really open world meaningful PvP ... the greatest PvPs always ended up in a zerg. People keep calling their friends if they suck too much. And don't let me start with the castle sieges ... 10+ guilds zerging it out ... requiring people to be online in that time window while the siege lasts or otherwise people get kicked out of guild

Another example is EVE Online. Now you go look it up and tell me how a 2000+ players combat is NOT a zerg vs zerg over a solar system.

Such thing is bound to happen with high concurrency. This even exist in real life. If you have been a good kid and listened to some history classes, instead of poking your smartphone, you'd know :) 

 

What is this PvP game you play without zerg vs zerg encounters, I'm very curious.

There is nothing that could get me back in to GW2.

I really don't pvp because as you said everything always turns in to a zerg, I will take small skillfull / tactical group pvp over a boring numbers game any day and as for  my history classes well smartphones where still 8yrs away when I was in high school.

I suppose you've tried out Gw2's sPvP 5on5 mode? 

  smunchy

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Joined: 2/17/14
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2/26/14 10:46:30 AM#102
It's not just the gem store ruining gw2, believe me.
  smunchy

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Joined: 2/17/14
Posts: 2

2/26/14 10:47:10 AM#103
It's not just the gem store ruining gw2, believe me.
  jdizzle2k13

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Joined: 1/06/13
Posts: 218

Don't worry about the past. Look at how to shape your future.

2/26/14 10:11:05 PM#104
Originally posted by Spawnblade
Originally posted by askdaboss
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Zetsuei

As someone who went from WoW to GW2 I can easily say the Gem Store in its current state is easily acceptable and fine. You have Wow which is a monthly fee AND they cut content from game and let you buy for ridiculous amounts. GW2 pumps FREE content out on such a fast pace you easily get your moneys worth.

 

Azurrel who says gold is hard to get is correct though, and that is intended. It lets gold keep value and not get to stupid amounts like WoW which is easily in the millions. The fact ANY player can get gold and buy items from the cash shop is a extra bonus. You don't NEED any items in there, they are a bonus if you decide you want it, whether that;s with real money or gold.

 

WoW cutting out game content and making you pay for it? Really? Getting that desperate, are we?

[...]

Totally comparable right? Come back when WoW's item shop lets you pay for resources, perks, boosts, content area's etc lol.

I can't see the "go to max level" by paying in GW2 Cash shop.
 
Getting desperate, are we?
 
 

To be fair, GW2 does have a max level button.  It costs even less than WoW, too.  You just buy gems, sell them for gold, and buy crafting mats.  Then craft your way up to max.  It's probably most effective to level up to about 30 and then max two trade skills to get to 70, since you get the same % of level for crafting at higher levels as you do at lower levels.

 

It probably takes about an hour of following the appropriate crafting leveling guides, with the appropriate resources purchased ahead of time, to level two skills to max (for forty levels.)

I thought they nerfed the crafting XP.  I think I only got 10 or so lvls lvling my tailoring to max, but I could be wrong.



  Sk1ppeR

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Joined: 4/29/12
Posts: 534

2/27/14 3:36:08 AM#105
Originally posted by jdizzle2k13
Originally posted by Spawnblade
Originally posted by askdaboss
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by Zetsuei

As someone who went from WoW to GW2 I can easily say the Gem Store in its current state is easily acceptable and fine. You have Wow which is a monthly fee AND they cut content from game and let you buy for ridiculous amounts. GW2 pumps FREE content out on such a fast pace you easily get your moneys worth.

 

Azurrel who says gold is hard to get is correct though, and that is intended. It lets gold keep value and not get to stupid amounts like WoW which is easily in the millions. The fact ANY player can get gold and buy items from the cash shop is a extra bonus. You don't NEED any items in there, they are a bonus if you decide you want it, whether that;s with real money or gold.

 

WoW cutting out game content and making you pay for it? Really? Getting that desperate, are we?

[...]

Totally comparable right? Come back when WoW's item shop lets you pay for resources, perks, boosts, content area's etc lol.

I can't see the "go to max level" by paying in GW2 Cash shop.
 
Getting desperate, are we?
 
 

To be fair, GW2 does have a max level button.  It costs even less than WoW, too.  You just buy gems, sell them for gold, and buy crafting mats.  Then craft your way up to max.  It's probably most effective to level up to about 30 and then max two trade skills to get to 70, since you get the same % of level for crafting at higher levels as you do at lower levels.

 

It probably takes about an hour of following the appropriate crafting leveling guides, with the appropriate resources purchased ahead of time, to level two skills to max (for forty levels.)

I thought they nerfed the crafting XP.  I think I only got 10 or so lvls lvling my tailoring to max, but I could be wrong.

Well technically only cooking afaik is giving 10 levels. The idea is that the exp for those 10 levels is spread though all crafting levels. Recently tailoring received a boost to craft level 500, so you get the 10th level once you hit crafting 500. That shit's expensive as hell xD 

  JoeyMMO

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Joined: 10/09/11
Posts: 1334

To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

2/27/14 6:34:53 AM#106
Originally posted by azurrei
At launch, I thought the gem store was fine.   After a few weeks post launch it started to become readily apparent to me that the game was designed to steer you into using the gem store (makes sense for a B2P game.) The problem...and perhaps THE PROBLEM, is the gems-->gold conversion.  The game is RIDICULOUSLY SKIMPY on gold earning unless you exploit or bot - and nearly EVERYTHING desirable, even though it may be cosmetic, can/has to be purchased with gold.  Therein lies the problem with GW2 - get rid of the gems-->gold conversion, make gold easier to obtain, and make gem store stuff trade-able on the market.  Thus, you would have to use $$$ to purchase gem store stuff but it can still be bought with (more readily available by PLAYING THE GAME, not being wealthy IRL) gold.  In this instance, things like say, LEGENDARY WEAPONS, could not be purchased with $$$ (at least, without paying a gold seller...)
 

Why would you want to advocate buying gold from goldsellers with your system? Isn't the cure worse than the disease? It's been months since I've seen bots or received gold selling mails or spam. Let's keep it that way.

When gold becomes easier to obtain, then people will be wanting more of them for their gems (money). Making gold easier to obtain will make things worse as inflation will increase to match. It all comes down to how long do you need to play to get X gold, and those dollars (euros) will only be paid if the dollar/hour rate is deemed acceptable.

THE PROBLEM is that you want everything for next to nothing, and people are just not willing to throw away money for next to no effort at all.

The cash shop in GW2 is just fine, try another game with a cash shop for a while, then tell us which game has problems with their cash shop.

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