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  Fdzzaigl

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2/14/14 4:35:26 PM#61
Originally posted by bcbully
He made it to level 10... How he claimed to review prior to that, I'll never know.

He didn't, in his video he clearly said that it was his first impression of the game.
Only the title of his preview was perhaps badly chosen.

But people here should really look at things with a calm mind, freaking out isn't gonna help anyone.

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  Iselin

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2/14/14 4:43:34 PM#62
Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by Naowut

His opnion has as much value as anyone in this thread. 

Why does it need a thread.

 

Because many people don't have their own opinion, they are simply followers and they need someone else to tell them what they should think.  This is more common than you think sadly.

Indeed. Boggles my mind that with 4 days last weekend when anyone who wanted it could get in to play (Curse keys were still available on Sunday) people didn't just experience it for themselves.

 

Call me self-centered but to me, my own opinion is so much better than anyone else's. 

  Mtibbs1989

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2/14/14 4:47:11 PM#63
Originally posted by Drakynn
Originally posted by Jyiiga
Originally posted by Drakynn
So wait...now AJ is a professional now right?Not an attention seeking click whore like he was last week according to TESO fans.

Your the only one to use the word professional in this thread so far.

He speaks well enough, but he flip flops on every game he plays like nuts.

So he's untrustworthy so his positive views are just as worthless as his negative ones so this entire thread is pointless?

 Pretty much... however, it's pretty amusing listing to him play games.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

  gestalt11

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2/14/14 4:48:31 PM#64

Like I said in the other AJ thread.  He only needed to spend 15 minutes - 30 minutes to actually do a little due diligence.  Instead he has to correct himself in a second video.

 

That is called shoddy workmanship.  The sad thing is he has a valid point that the other two zone are a problem.  But he undermines his own point by making a shoddy although amusing product.

 

He should just not call anything a review or judge anything nad say its all entertainment.

  gestalt11

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2/14/14 4:49:51 PM#65
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by Naowut

His opnion has as much value as anyone in this thread. 

Why does it need a thread.

 

Because many people don't have their own opinion, they are simply followers and they need someone else to tell them what they should think.  This is more common than you think sadly.

Indeed. Boggles my mind that with 4 days last weekend when anyone who wanted it could get in to play (Curse keys were still available on Sunday) people didn't just experience it for themselves.

 

Call me self-centered but to me, my own opinion is so much better than anyone else's. 

Impossible.  My opinion is clearly better than yours.

  TheHavok

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2/14/14 4:52:07 PM#66
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Saw that shit coming. Its been echoed in a million threads... Get past 10 and try pvp and get past 15 for pve.

 

Behold the beginning of the Angry Joe 180.

Exactly.

Remember Eurogamer's 'review' of Darkfall that turned out to be less then an hour of actual gameplay? In the end, knee jerk reaction reviews do more harm then good.

im glad Angry Joe is sticking with it and providing continuous updates. Kudos!

 

  Razephon

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2/14/14 5:01:15 PM#67

I hope you guys all saw the bit where that other dude whose footage Joe used just stood there and completed a significant portion of his kill quest by doing nothing. Theres other stuff wrong, but it hasn't been mentioned in any videos so I can't say. 

I just hope you guys can put 2 and 2 together and figure out what I'm implying...

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  Iselin

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2/14/14 5:07:07 PM#68
Originally posted by Razephon

I hope you guys all saw the bit where that other dude whose footage Joe used just stood there and completed a significant portion of his kill quest by doing nothing. Theres other stuff wrong, but it hasn't been mentioned in any videos so I can't say. 

I just hope you guys can put 2 and 2 together and figure out what I'm implying...

Yes. Anti-freeloading tweaks will need to happen.

  User Deleted
2/14/14 5:07:44 PM#69
Originally posted by Razephon

I hope you guys all saw the bit where that other dude whose footage Joe used just stood there and completed a significant portion of his kill quest by doing nothing. Theres other stuff wrong, but it hasn't been mentioned in any videos so I can't say. 

I just hope you guys can put 2 and 2 together and figure out what I'm implying...

It's because it's a repeatable group quest and his buddies were on siege.  Not a high reward quest but it's a nice little boost to xp and it helps pay for siege weapons by a small fraction.  It's really just a small pickup group quest.  They have mentioned it on several sites earlier this week.

To avoid free loading you can just kick from group.  Healers get to freeload though, I will allow it.  LOL.

  Iselin

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2/14/14 5:12:36 PM#70
Originally posted by Pyatra
Originally posted by Razephon

I hope you guys all saw the bit where that other dude whose footage Joe used just stood there and completed a significant portion of his kill quest by doing nothing. Theres other stuff wrong, but it hasn't been mentioned in any videos so I can't say. 

I just hope you guys can put 2 and 2 together and figure out what I'm implying...

It's because it's a repeatable group quest and his buddies were on siege.  Not a high reward quest but it's a nice little boost to xp and it helps pay for siege weapons by a small fraction.  It's really just a small pickup group quest.  They have mentioned it on several sites earlier this week.

To avoid free loading you can just kick from group.  Healers get to freeload though, I will allow it.  LOL.

Same old...the primadonnas of MMOs 

  AngryJoeShow

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2/14/14 5:13:00 PM#71

Sheesh,

Rough crowd here huh?

I kind of expected to be eviscerated by the ESO faithful for saying that the game has some trouble ahead of it. For saying that it would do better as a free to play game, for saying that the questlines in two of the three factions levels 1-10 were rather ho-hum and outright boring at times. For saying that the city layouts in many starting areas are borderline idiotic. OH GOD these are captial offenses - CLEARLY NO ONE THINKS THIS. CLEARLY ITS A PLEA FOR ATTENTION AND SUBS AND VIEWS TO MAKE MONEYYYYYYYYY! *rolls eyes*

That I'd expect.

Could it be that theres some truth to it? or am I just out to make money on my stupid videos? (depends on whether or not im saying what you want me too) Listen. Its not just by my account but by no less than 10 of those who played the game with me during the Public Test Server (other media included) as well as my GF who has extensive MMO experience of all types. You might find the questlines exhilarating but the majority of people will be disappointed, especially with the words "Elder Scrolls" slapped on the box. That's just fact and you will see that no matter what you personally do come release.

It's always annoying to have people call out your actual and real opinion on something "flip flopping" or "attention whoring" its a baseless accusation made by cowards - because honestly you dont need to provide any proof at all - people will just automatically believe it as truth - because its the internet and because I have a lot of subscribers now. But had I done the same thing with no subs, then id be the source of truth? Nope. I'd just be dismissed as a nobody as people dismiss those on the forums that have constructive criticism for the game.

Angry Joe is an Idiot for having an Opinion.

Angry Joe only cares about views, not games. I bet he doesnt even know how to play games. I bet he beat up kids in high school. My friend has proof of it.

Angry Joe flip flops on his opinions, once saying that this part of the game is boring and could use work, while the other part of the game offers a much better experience. What a moron.

*sigh*

Anyway thanks for watching the video - and from what you can see via gameplay make your own decision. You dont need me to give you the okay to buy or not, but I can certainly help show more and give one average dudes opinion - and ill continue to do so whether you like it or not.

  Damedius

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2/14/14 5:16:57 PM#72
Originally posted by AngryJoeShow

Snip

If you were really angry joe, why would you be upset?

You make bills to play video games and give your opinion. Controversy just makes you more money. The more people hate, the fatter your bank account gets.

  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
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2/14/14 5:18:46 PM#73
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Saw that shit coming. Its been echoed in a million threads... Get past 10 and try pvp and get past 15 for pve.

 

Behold the beginning of the Angry Joe 180.

thats still a big problem, though

they will lose a lot of players , if the first levels dont suck people in

specially in a hyped game, like this

  User Deleted
2/14/14 5:20:05 PM#74
I honestly think we all know the first part is lackluster... all the game elements are there but none of the craziness of dark anchors and skulls in the later PVE section.  Maybe instead of complaining we can offer up some sort of solution(s)?  Maybe a zone event in the starting area that's a little hectic?  Say about mid-zone/island... basically it will break up the monotony and give incentives to keep going are to see what lies beyond?  Doesn't have to be a dark anchor, just something interesting but hectic.
  laserit

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2/14/14 5:22:09 PM#75
Originally posted by AngryJoeShow

Sheesh,

Rough crowd here huh?

I kind of expected to be eviscerated by the ESO faithful for saying that the game has some trouble ahead of it. For saying that it would do better as a free to play game, for saying that the questlines in two of the three factions levels 1-10 were rather ho-hum and outright boring at times. For saying that the city layouts in many starting areas are borderline idiotic. OH GOD these are captial offenses - CLEARLY NO ONE THINKS THIS. CLEARLY ITS A PLEA FOR ATTENTION AND SUBS AND VIEWS TO MAKE MONEYYYYYYYYY! *rolls eyes*

That I'd expect.

Could it be that theres some truth to it? or am I just out to make money on my stupid videos? (depends on whether or not im saying what you want me too) Listen. Its not just by my account but by no less than 10 of those who played the game with me during the Public Test Server (other media included) as well as my GF who has extensive MMO experience of all types. You might find the questlines exhilarating but the majority of people will be disappointed, especially with the words "Elder Scrolls" slapped on the box. That's just fact and you will see that no matter what you personally do come release.

It's always annoying to have people call out your actual and real opinion on something "flip flopping" or "attention whoring" its a baseless accusation made by cowards - because honestly you dont need to provide any proof at all - people will just automatically believe it as truth - because its the internet and because I have a lot of subscribers now. But had I done the same thing with no subs, then id be the source of truth? Nope. I'd just be dismissed as a nobody as people dismiss those on the forums that have constructive criticism for the game.

Angry Joe is an Idiot for having an Opinion.

Angry Joe only cares about views, not games. I bet he doesnt even know how to play games. I bet he beat up kids in high school. My friend has proof of it.

Angry Joe flip flops on his opinions, once saying that this part of the game is boring and could use work, while the other part of the game offers a much better experience. What a moron.

*sigh*

Anyway thanks for watching the video - and from what you can see via gameplay make your own decision. You dont need me to give you the okay to buy or not, but I can certainly help show more and give one average dudes opinion - and ill continue to do so whether you like it or not.

Power to ya Joe

"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you." - Bruce Lee

  simplius

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2/14/14 5:28:48 PM#76
Originally posted by gestalt11

Like I said in the other AJ thread.  He only needed to spend 15 minutes - 30 minutes to actually do a little due diligence.  Instead he has to correct himself in a second video.

 

That is called shoddy workmanship.  The sad thing is he has a valid point that the other two zone are a problem.  But he undermines his own point by making a shoddy although amusing product.

 

He should just not call anything a review or judge anything nad say its all entertainment.

it wasnt a review, it was a first impression

the second impression was on a different part of the game, so it doesnt have much relevance to the first impression

he has a show, because people like to Watch it

how many shows do you have?

  Azzras

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2/14/14 5:31:23 PM#77
Originally posted by AngryJoeShow

snip

This has to be some of the rudest comments on this board thus far...and that's saying something.

You pretty much just attacked everyone because they don't agree with you in some way?

 

  gestalt11

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2/14/14 5:33:53 PM#78
Originally posted by simplius
Originally posted by gestalt11

Like I said in the other AJ thread.  He only needed to spend 15 minutes - 30 minutes to actually do a little due diligence.  Instead he has to correct himself in a second video.

 

That is called shoddy workmanship.  The sad thing is he has a valid point that the other two zone are a problem.  But he undermines his own point by making a shoddy although amusing product.

 

He should just not call anything a review or judge anything nad say its all entertainment.

it wasnt a review, it was a first impression

the second impression was on a different part of the game, so it doesnt have much relevance to the first impression

he has a show, because people like to Watch it

how many shows do you have?

Bullshit.  Labeling something a "first impression" does not excuse not doing a very very minor amount of due diligence.  You shoot your mouth off without actually checking and you get ridiculed and you deserve it.

 

Now fucking man up and take the lumps you deserve because you fucked up.  Or keep shooting your mouth off without  the modicum of due diligence and get used to looking like a fool.

 

  Iselin

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2/14/14 5:33:54 PM#79
Originally posted by Pyatra
I honestly think we all know the first part is lackluster... all the game elements are there but none of the craziness of dark anchors and skulls in the later PVE section.  Maybe instead of complaining we can offer up some sort of solution(s)?  Maybe a zone event in the starting area that's a little hectic?  Say about mid-zone/island... basically it will break up the monotony and give incentives to keep going are to see what lies beyond?  Doesn't have to be a dark anchor, just something interesting but hectic.

I must be crazy because I continue to disagree with this lol. I do agree that there are differences in the 3 starting areas in scenery, size, quest lines etc., but I think the real problem is that compared to recent MMOs, ESO is a slow leveling experience - something many of us have been asking for. Well folks, this is what slow-leveling feels like.

 

Another factor is that all of us, myself included, wanted to see that Cyrodiil AVA asap. So there's an extra desire to level fast that is totally incompatible with a deliberately slow leveling game.

 

And then there's the leveling itself. Unlike the vast majority of MMOs out there, this one is NOT just about leveling, it's about getting skill points and using them to get cool new abilities, morph them, get your ultimate and improve passives. Leveling is just one of the ways to accomplish that.

 

By the time you're level 15 you will have gotten at least 5 skill points through various quest rewards and there are roughly 21 skyshards to find for an additional 7 skill points. If skill points only came through leveling, this would be like reaching level 27 instead of 15.

 

It's a different type of MMO and it takes some attitude adjustment but yeah, if your goal is to get to Cyrodiil asap, you will find the first 10 levels slow.

  amber-r

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2/14/14 5:38:42 PM#80
Originally posted by AngryJoeShow

Sheesh,

Rough crowd here huh?

 

You don't seem to have much experience with the mmo crowd, they are a whole different animal to normal gamers.

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