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  tyfon

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Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 196

 
OP  2/13/14 12:28:16 PM#1

So I have a tendancy to never give up on mmos. I resubbed to WAR 3 or 4 times.

Now I tried SW:TOR again, but I think this 4th time to sub was my last. Even with a subscription I was reminded just about every minute about the amazing cartel shop cash shop and all the great items I could buy there..

When did the shop get this bad? I can remember it taking over the game completely in the past.

 

I want to loot my items not buy them when I pay a subscription.

 

So I guess this is the very last time I hit the (almost hidden) cancel subscription button for this game...

 

  Bacchira

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Joined: 8/01/13
Posts: 42

2/13/14 12:33:00 PM#2

I'd like to put a trigger on the SWTOR class balance team.

When they are fired I'm ready to give the game another try.

 

  Sevenstar61

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Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1421

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

2/13/14 12:42:11 PM#3

I am subbed and the only thing that reminds me about cartel shop is the button to push on the top of my screen. Nothing more. nothing is popping out to remind me about it LMAO.

 


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  alexhpy98721

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Posts: 209

2/13/14 12:43:17 PM#4

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

  Dewguy79

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Joined: 1/10/14
Posts: 392

2/13/14 12:46:49 PM#5

Yeah this is clearly a ridiculous post. Where to start...

Well first you are not forced to buy anything from the market, especially as a sub. There are plenty of items in the world to loot, datacrons, gear, crafting mats, and mounts.

being a sub you should never have to pay real money for a cartel item.  You get an allowance every month.  Plus bring a sub you don't have a credit cap so should be able to buy anything from the cartel market with in game currency. 

Yeah sucker is one word but there probably are many others to describe this post. 

  tyfon

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Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 196

 
OP  2/13/14 12:49:56 PM#6
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

  klash2def

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Joined: 11/15/11
Posts: 95

(/O_o)/ mods please close thread.

2/13/14 12:56:01 PM#7
Originally posted by tyfon

So I have a tendancy to never give up on mmos. I resubbed to WAR 3 or 4 times.

Now I tried SW:TOR again, but I think this 4th time to sub was my last. Even with a subscription I was reminded just about every minute about the amazing cartel shop cash shop and all the great items I could buy there..

When did the shop get this bad? I can remember it taking over the game completely in the past.

 

I want to loot my items not buy them when I pay a subscription.

 

So I guess this is the very last time I hit the (almost hidden) cancel subscription button for this game...

 

*blinks* what? the only thing that reminds you about the CS (which is totally optional btw) is the little logo at the top of the screen. also you can get all the same stuff on the GTN.. im not sure what version of swtor you have, but it sounds like you have the one that has big red letters on the screen that read "Buy from our Cash shop or be logged out in 3 minutes!" the swtor cs isn that bad tbh. seen way worse. 

  Dewguy79

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/10/14
Posts: 392

2/13/14 12:58:36 PM#8
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

 

So you make a post claiming this is your fourth time subbing, go on and rage quit because of the cartel market.  You clearly have no clue about what's even in the market your quitting over? Did I get that right? 
  Sevenstar61

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1421

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

2/13/14 1:00:30 PM#9
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

You have access to all game as subscriber, even Makeb (Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion) is now free for subscribers. Cartel Market sells unlocks for F2P, cosmetic items, etc. Don't have to buy anything from it if you don't want to, and everything from CM can be bought pretty cheap on GM.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  skyline385

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Joined: 7/09/13
Posts: 601

2/13/14 1:04:01 PM#10
You say you subbed 4 times and yet you didn't know that all Cartel shop items are sold and can be purchased from the in-game market? Sounds legit. I found that out on my 2nd day of playing the game when i started.

  tyfon

Novice Member

Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 196

 
OP  2/13/14 1:07:20 PM#11
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

You have access to all game as subscriber, even Makeb (Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion) is now free for subscribers. Cartel Market sells unlocks for F2P, cosmetic items, etc. Don't have to buy anything from it if you don't want to, and everything from CM can be bought pretty cheap on GM.

 

So if I have access to everything, why is the shop even there for subscribers?

They put commercial on every web page, every load screen etc about the stuff that is there. 

Can you loot everything?

 

I really felt like I was missing out with all the spam, but if that is not the case I still have 13 days I can try.

  Dewguy79

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/10/14
Posts: 392

2/13/14 1:13:23 PM#12
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

You have access to all game as subscriber, even Makeb (Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion) is now free for subscribers. Cartel Market sells unlocks for F2P, cosmetic items, etc. Don't have to buy anything from it if you don't want to, and everything from CM can be bought pretty cheap on GM.

 

So if I have access to everything, why is the shop even there for subscribers?

They put commercial on every web page, every load screen etc about the stuff that is there. 

Can you loot everything?

 

I really felt like I was missing out with all the spam, but if that is not the case I still have 13 days I can try.

Commercials on every webpage?  Every load screen?  Well shoot if it's everywhere I'm confused how you knew nothing about what's actually inside or the fact it can all be purchased in game.  

Its not on every webpage and loading screen for the record. 

  BadOrb

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Joined: 1/11/13
Posts: 641

2/13/14 2:32:07 PM#13

Well some of the loot is behind reputation grinds. So atm you have the bounty hunter event and the armors from the reputation vendor are pretty nice , they require a certain level of reputation and in-game credits to buy. That event comes back the second week of every month , this months finishes on Monday night. Now also you have a new 15-54 flashpoint with a reputation grind for a great speeder and more pretty cool armor. So if you are between levels 15-54 then get cracking :) If you so please.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  Fenrir767

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Joined: 1/27/04
Posts: 570

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2/13/14 3:34:14 PM#14
Not sure what your talking about there really is nothing in game talking about the Cartel Market except for the Big Button that you can click to access it if you want to! Certain Armor sets are only available via the cartel market however you can purchase most of those armor sets on the GTN because players will sell the ones that they do not want. Many players purchase cartel packs as a way of making in game credits and just about every f2p unlock is available on the gtn for in game credits.
  Tygranir

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Joined: 6/24/13
Posts: 747

2/13/14 3:39:19 PM#15
Originally posted by Fenrir767
Not sure what your talking about there really is nothing in game talking about the Cartel Market except for the Big Button that you can click to access it if you want to! Certain Armor sets are only available via the cartel market however you can purchase most of those armor sets on the GTN because players will sell the ones that they do not want. Many players purchase cartel packs as a way of making in game credits and just about every f2p unlock is available on the gtn for in game credits.

 

Hey! You can't say that! SWTOR is bad because forums say so! That is all!

 

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  bobdole1979

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2/13/14 4:04:00 PM#16
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

You have access to all game as subscriber, even Makeb (Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion) is now free for subscribers. Cartel Market sells unlocks for F2P, cosmetic items, etc. Don't have to buy anything from it if you don't want to, and everything from CM can be bought pretty cheap on GM.

 

So if I have access to everything, why is the shop even there for subscribers?

They put commercial on every web page, every load screen etc about the stuff that is there. 

Can you loot everything?

 

I really felt like I was missing out with all the spam, but if that is not the case I still have 13 days I can try.

You buy the items you want off the GTN with in game credits.  No cash needed.  In WoW and other P2P MMOs there are some items you can not get from looting but only from vendors and the AH. 

 

its not different then that.

 

IF YOU WANT you can spend real money but you don't have to in fact its easier to just spend in game money.

  BadOrb

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2/13/14 4:29:18 PM#17
Originally posted by bobdole1979
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by tyfon
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

You don`t need the cash shop... and also you buy SKINS from there... you need to fill the skins with actual mods and such that you can craft or loot from PvE - no Pay to Win here...

Besides EVERYTHING in the shop is also in the GTN(in-game auction house) for credits... and they are either SKINS or xp boosts or crap like that...  

The cash shop is quite good for putting nice looking sets on the GTN and for providing the F2P population with unlocks and other nice things for in-game credits...

 

Ok, that's a bit different, they make it look like it is actual epic armor sets that are in there.

I was wondering what on earth they were doing.

 

I don't like to have to pony up to get access to all of the game when I pay $15/month so the button is clicked!

You have access to all game as subscriber, even Makeb (Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion) is now free for subscribers. Cartel Market sells unlocks for F2P, cosmetic items, etc. Don't have to buy anything from it if you don't want to, and everything from CM can be bought pretty cheap on GM.

 

So if I have access to everything, why is the shop even there for subscribers?

They put commercial on every web page, every load screen etc about the stuff that is there. 

Can you loot everything?

 

I really felt like I was missing out with all the spam, but if that is not the case I still have 13 days I can try.

You buy the items you want off the GTN with in game credits.  No cash needed.  In WoW and other P2P MMOs there are some items you can not get from looting but only from vendors and the AH. 

 

its not different then that.

 

IF YOU WANT you can spend real money but you don't have to in fact its easier to just spend in game money.

They can also use some of their Stipend Cartel Coins , they got at least 500 CC from subbing :). A good tip is to adjust your UI so the big gold flashing button becomes a tiny dot so shiny tarnished gold button :).

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  Fenrir767

Elite Member

Joined: 1/27/04
Posts: 570

Take My Love, Take My Land, Take me to wear I cannot stand

2/13/14 4:31:40 PM#18
Originally posted by Tygranir
Originally posted by Fenrir767
Not sure what your talking about there really is nothing in game talking about the Cartel Market except for the Big Button that you can click to access it if you want to! Certain Armor sets are only available via the cartel market however you can purchase most of those armor sets on the GTN because players will sell the ones that they do not want. Many players purchase cartel packs as a way of making in game credits and just about every f2p unlock is available on the gtn for in game credits.

 

Hey! You can't say that! SWTOR is bad because forums say so! That is all!

 

/sarcasm

The funny thing is with the amount of content that is available to be unlocked on the GTN if you want to truly be a F2P player and use your credits wisely you can actually unlock most of the things you need in the game far easier than say a less hated F2P model like LOTRO, getting those achievements for 10 turbine points is an absolute bitch......

  Sinroth

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 10

2/13/14 9:51:55 PM#19
I always see someone somewhere saying that everything in the cash shop is available in the GTN. Simple answer is yes. But without being a simpleton, in order to even get to the GTN, the item must first be either gambled upon within gambling packs or for everything else bought directly from the "cash shop". Meaning, someone MUST pay real money in order for someone else to get it for in game credits. The studio doesn't care who that person is as long as it is purchased with real money FIRST. This is the incorrect way to offer players/Subscribers who already pay a monthly fee the chance to use an emote such as a sit emote. Or to obtain an appealing weapon model than what is EARNED in game. Nicer looking weapons and/or gear models/textures are ALL reserved for the, you guessed it. Cash shop. Nothing desirable actually needs to be earned in this game anymore since free to play. EVERYTHING desirable is used with Cartel Coins. They even charge real money for new hairstyles or color etc. Want to change a hairstyle? Need Cartel Coins first Want to change the color? Need Cartel Coins first. You know, the simple cosmetic stuff. Why? Greed? Desperation? So few Subscribers? Why did they all leave? Thats just bad business right there and you know somethings wrong with a game if that happens to the extent that it did. They never to this day, ever fixed the reasons for their failures. From the mass exodus, the game continues today in the exact state it did then, without any change or improvement to the actual game. Their engine is garbage, yes that's no secret. But now the "gambling packs" have taken the place of  Subscribers. This is what they care for MOST. It's not an opinion. It's a factual observation. So knowing that, how is one able to allow themselves to support the studio? Ignorance is bliss? I suppose. But what is known, cannot be unknown. And that is why they will never get anymore support from me. From my friends. From others. From their friends. From the 1.5 MILLION that laughed their collective butts off at Bio/EA's attempt at free to play. There's no defending them. They shown everyone that they don't care anymore. They have the cash shop which is king. So that gives them the right to treat Subscribers with a little disrespect, or a lot depending on the individual, by way of greed. But no one can come out and lie about how they've never experienced any level of disrespect from their decisions. The problem is too many subscribers bury their heads in the sand and allow things that shouldn't continue, continue. They make excuses for the Studio and even argue on their behalf. Now thanks to EA, BioWare's name isn't worth a steaming cow pie. Literally. EA is trying for worst company four years in a row. Square Enix did something about their reputation and they're on top now as a favorite for what they've done with Final Fantasy. I'm not a big Final Fantasy fan at all. I am a HUGE fan of the Star Wars universe though. I do like MMORPG's very much and would love to play a GOOD sci-fi MMORPG. But Final Fantasy smokes SWTOR so friggin badly that I'm jealous at just how everything works so well together and there is absolutely no need to to milk Subscribers for anything at all. No sit emotes. No black dyes. NOTHING. It feels good to have a Studio actually care about Subscribers again, especially when comparing one studio's direction with another's. And Square actually rewards Subscribers with free stuff at stages of subscriptions. SWTOR? *uncomfortable silence*  Pretty much that. Was it hard at first to leave a Star Wars game that I've been waiting for since almost ever? What I wanted an MMO that I could call home? Or at least a very decent MMO? They did almost everything wrong, and even painted themselves into a corner with the "fully voiced" feature... Tisk tisk.
  Thebrave246

Novice Member

Joined: 10/07/07
Posts: 167

2/13/14 9:56:53 PM#20

Hey do any of you guys know what to do, I have been trying to play SWTOR again, been awhile to check out all the new stuff and galactic starfighter, but for some reason my launcher is all messed up. I either get a Failed to Initialize Web Browser Error or I get the launchpad up and it says Preparing the files please wait and just minimizes and nothing happens. How do I fix the launcher to download the game already?

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