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  LisaFlexy22

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OP  2/11/14 5:35:00 AM#1

I just saw this video, the treasure map thing looks pretty cool actually.  Figured it would be more lame.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQMINsV170&feature=youtu.be&t=21m22s

  Ineveraskforthis

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2/11/14 8:46:56 AM#2

Wow, best "review/preview" thus far?

 

  Lord.Bachus

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2/11/14 9:25:53 AM#3
Originally posted by Ineveraskforthis

Wow, best "review/preview" thus far?

 

I agree a lot with this guy......  espescially the part about the instancing... should be improved before release...

With instances give people the option to choose single player/group or open world

 

Halfway trough the video now...... and i think this is the first actuall review that i see.... by far the best so far

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Ineveraskforthis

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2/11/14 9:28:28 AM#4
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Ineveraskforthis

Wow, best "review/preview" thus far?

 

I agree a lot with this guy......  espescially the part about the instancing... should be improved before release...

With instances give people the option to choose single player/group or open world

 

Halfway trough the video now...... and i think this is the first actuall review that i see.... by far the best so far

Too bad his video has few lower views than ....certain other youtube "personality" or PROFESSIONAL gaming journalist/MMO sites.

 

  greenreen

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2/11/14 10:01:18 AM#5

Neat, that will be a challenge. I like the way this guy talks, going to watch the whole video. He doesn't seem so stuck on the general things and is looking deeper.

If someone reviews something they need to get into it as a whole package instead of just scratch the surface because details matter. When the only complaints I see in reviews are something that can be said about any game it bugs me.

One example is the Angry Joe review - he knocked the game for not having collision but GW2 didn't have collision when not fighting and he didn't complain about it there - that shows bias and it's too generic to say one game needs it and another doesn't. Why didn't lack of collision knock down his points for that game, because it didn't match the type of review he wanted to make. He wanted to give a half and half review of ESO because he doesn't like sub games so he went in with expectations and needed reasons but fell back on the "if pvp is good" I'll be back to basically say, I'll play, I'd just like you to return for another video view later.

  Itherael

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2/11/14 10:29:51 AM#6

His thoughts seemed very reminiscent of my own and, in general, I agree with his points. I especially liked the fact that he talked about the different mindsets and how that can alter your enjoyment of the game. It's no secret that ESO will have things that could be considered inferior to Skyrim, but those are drawbacks that come with the fact that it's a massively multiplayer online game (the game also has other unrelated negative aspects, no game is perfect, but I believe the positives far outweigh them). Furthermore, to me the singular most important reason for playing MMO's is to play it with other people, and that will never be possible in Skyrim (realistically speaking), so I see no point in measuring ESO against Skyrim.

That is why I find it much more relevant to compare it to other MMO's, because those are the real contenders in the competition for my attention. When seen as an MMO, tested as an MMO, and compared to other MMO's, I believe this game to be vastly superior in the quality of the questing, how the player interacts with the world, the combat, the graphics, the music, the freedom of exploration, the character building, the crafting and gathering, and most importantly the overall immersion factor.

Like him, I have not even touched the AvA content, and I am a huge PvP fan, so that may be another very good reason for me to stick around with ESO.

  Jyiiga

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2/11/14 11:13:50 AM#7
Glad this video caught traction in another thread. I posted it, but everyone seems to have glazed over that thread.
  Uhwop

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2/11/14 11:35:20 AM#8
So basically anyone can make a youtube video and claim they're allowed to talk about the game? 
  blastermaster

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2/11/14 11:41:59 AM#9
Originally posted by Uhwop
So basically anyone can make a youtube video and claim they're allowed to talk about the game? 

(Looks at Angry Joe)

Looks like it yes!

:P

 

  Lord.Bachus

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2/11/14 11:48:38 AM#10
Originally posted by Jyiiga
Glad this video caught traction in another thread. I posted it, but everyone seems to have glazed over that thread.

Its probably the thread title, that somehow not draws the attention this video deserves...

 

It shows whats the game is about... he even tells what to expect.. and what to like.... 

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  nerovipus32

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2/11/14 12:11:58 PM#11
edited.
  Fdzzaigl

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2/11/14 12:31:34 PM#12
It's a nice little mechanic, definitely a good addition.

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  SpottyGekko

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2/11/14 12:43:16 PM#13
I always enjoyed the treasure maps in Skyrim. They can be a really fun distraction, and can be quite obscure in certain cases.
  sleeping1252

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2/11/14 12:56:13 PM#14

This review mentions the most important problem in the game.

If you are in a group, caves/castles/buildings/quest content should be instanced to you and your group alone (if you choose so).

 

 

  Uhwop

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2/11/14 1:02:17 PM#15
Originally posted by blastermaster
Originally posted by Uhwop
So basically anyone can make a youtube video and claim they're allowed to talk about the game? 

(Looks at Angry Joe)

Looks like it yes!

:P

 

Angry Joe actually makes a living as a game reporter, who actually does interviews with people who make games. 

He's not some nerdy kid with a youtube channel. 

 

  achesoma

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2/11/14 1:03:22 PM#16
That's good to know.  Most MMOers will be clicking on map like mad trying to "unlock" a quest and might think it's broken. 

  Incomparable

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2/11/14 1:08:49 PM#17

This makes the game seem so much better than the impressions were making out the game to be.

This is why it would be nice if the devs made a video highlting their vision of the experiences they want us to have... however, when watching this video and his mention of powerplayers, I can see why devs dont want to say how their mmo is one specific experience or one specific style of pvp, or what not, since it does create a list of expectations by using lended words from other games, and might make people hyped over the wrong thing, or revealing something that the majority have not experienced in mmos and do not want to try it.

Maybe its something ppl have to get accustomed to, since a review i also watched was that a person played up to lvl 15 and then after wards they really began to enjoy the game. I suppose the expectations of elder series, and expectations of themepark mmos creates a certain prejudice which can affect the enjoyment of the game.

Regardless, things like this make the game much greater for the players to immerse themselves in something that feels like a virtual reality beyond the obvious foe that needs to be slain.

“Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  blastermaster

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2/11/14 1:19:29 PM#18
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by blastermaster
Originally posted by Uhwop
So basically anyone can make a youtube video and claim they're allowed to talk about the game? 

(Looks at Angry Joe)

Looks like it yes!

:P

 

Angry Joe actually makes a living as a game reporter, who actually does interviews with people who make games. 

He's not some nerdy kid with a youtube channel. 

 

I know right...  Yet, I find this "nerd" review a lot more professional that what Joe did..

but I guess you will say that is because I share is views more than the ones from Angry Joe, which might be right to a point (everything is subjective).  But to me, this guy looked at it with perspective, and pretty objectively, and took the game for what it is, not what he thought it should be, like most of those "game reporter" that live by the number of hits they get...

 

 

  aesperus

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2/11/14 1:34:56 PM#19
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by blastermaster
Originally posted by Uhwop
So basically anyone can make a youtube video and claim they're allowed to talk about the game? 

(Looks at Angry Joe)

Looks like it yes!

:P

Angry Joe actually makes a living as a game reporter, who actually does interviews with people who make games. 

He's not some nerdy kid with a youtube channel. 

As much as I usually enjoy Angry Joe videos, where do you think he came from? He's always been 'some nerdy kid with a youtube channel', he just puts more effort into it than most. And while yes, he does get money for what he does, that doesn't make his opinions more valid. And it doesn't make them less bias.

In fact, most of the opinion pieces for games are from hobbyists (professional or not). Even big names like Total Biscuit came from making nerdy videos on their free time on youtube (in his case it was WoW videos). All reviewers have bias (no matter how hard they try to avoid it), and it's up to us (the viewers) to determine whether those bias' conflict with our own or not.

In the case of Angry Joe's video, he doesn't make a very objective case. It's clear going in that he brought certain expectations to the table, and and disliked that those expectations were not met. The reviewer in this thread, however, is trying to take a more objective view of the game than most, highlighting both pros and cons about the game, instead of whining about things he wish it had.

I have no idea who this kid is, but he shows a lot of traits that are key towards being a good reviewer / critic. Ones that the vast majority either lack, or aren't consistant with (angry joe, while honest, isn't an exception to this). I think for people who are able to take a step back, and view the game with a more open / objective mindset, this opinion video will be very informative. It does a good job of not only showing off how the game actually plays, but the type of gamers who will most likely not enjoy it.

 

  spizz

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2/11/14 1:50:37 PM#20
Originally posted by LisaFlexy22

I just saw this video, the treasure map thing looks pretty cool actually.  Figured it would be more lame.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQMINsV170&feature=youtu.be&t=21m22s

 

This is a cool feature, I have not seen such a treasure map in beta. Its really clever.

 

And it is also true that game is really not something for "POWER PLAYERS".

There are probably some power players in this forum here, they thought that questing sucks. They want to hunt rather mobs for rewards and big xp amounts instead of questing and following a story.

I have the feeling such people did not play the TES series before since story questing is a strenght of it and in ESO.

 

Overall this guy hits the nail for a lot of points, good review.

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