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  WarWitch

Novice Member

Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 85

 
OP  2/10/14 10:41:19 PM#1

What is happening to our mmo's ??? I am older for sure, I thought  mmos would become more complex. I rember when we dreamed of being able to have sound coming from our computers. I rember when we used to dream of having pictures on our computers. I keep hopeing for more challenging play but I have to admit lately its seams the trend is dumer and dumer games.

5 attacks a potion slot and elite skill is going to get boaringly repetitive very fast.

Walking around spamming e thousands of times at boxes etc is going to hurt our hands.

EVERYTHING in the eso world is kinda washed out dul brown looking.

Zenimax, hun, if u make a dumbed down, simple, repetive, slow moving game and charge a monthly fee for and have a cash shop and charge 80 dollars for people to try it, it is not going to last in the mmo market.

The charcter models don't look sexy or strong and the armour looks horrable and bland.     

  deveilblad

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Joined: 4/25/13
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2/10/14 10:50:30 PM#2

Actually, you have 10 skills and 2 ultimate because of weapon swapping PLUS light and heavy attacks and an active blocking system. So that would be...15 ''abilities'' (counting attacks and blocking as you have to press something, so I consider it an ability like pressing 1 throught 6...), not 5.

 

Less abilities doesn't mean the game is dumbed down, it means you can focus more on what is on screen instead of doing your crazy 18 buttons rotation in your tab-target typical MMO. Unfortunately, if I read your comment right, you think more buttons=more complex gameplay and less ''dumbed down''...So I guess you will never be satisfied until your whole screen has action bars and your typical rotation has 72 buttons in it lol...

 

Also, the game is not simple, repetitve (well, a LITTLE, but all MMOs are...) or slow moving... I don't know where you got that.

 

Everything being brown and dark colors, there is a lot of colors and the lighting is amazing. No, it doesn't have crazy yellow or electric blue everywhere on the screen, but that's what a non-cartoony MMO looks like...

 

I agree the character models....well it's more the armor models really... are not top notch, but that is to allow huge 500 vs 500 battles without getting 2 FPS.

 

 

  cronius77

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1282

2/10/14 10:55:45 PM#3

lol if you think mashing 15 buttons or four hot bars worth of skills takes skill then stick to your tab targeting games. Even players in wow are sick of ability bloat to the point blizzard is addressing it in this upcoming expansion. As this game being ugly and the character models are terrible? I guess of a matter of opinion but show me a better looking mmorpg please? Guild Wars2 arguably is about it and thats a matter of opinion because some of that models in that game look ridiculous imo. 

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  Furion-Hunter

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Joined: 7/24/12
Posts: 40

2/10/14 10:56:53 PM#4

just saying at 15 u choose another weapon slot so thats 12 spells inc ultimates.

 

Just goes to show, how much you tested the game.

  Denambren

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Joined: 1/03/08
Posts: 296

2/10/14 10:58:03 PM#5

You remember DC Universe Online, right?

 

Another console MMO incoming.

 

  DamonVile

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4375

2/10/14 10:58:32 PM#6

 

When you take all the fear of losing out of a game does it really matter how many skills you mash for victory ?

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  Warjin

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Joined: 10/25/09
Posts: 1203

2/10/14 11:00:31 PM#7
Originally posted by WarWitch

What is happening to our mmo's ??? I am older for sure, I thought  mmos would become more complex. I rember when we dreamed of being able to have sound coming from our computers. I rember when we used to dream of having pictures on our computers. I keep hopeing for more challenging play but I have to admit lately its seams the trend is dumer and dumer games.

5 attacks a potion slot and elite skill is going to get boaringly repetitive very fast.

Walking around spamming e thousands of times at boxes etc is going to hurt our hands.

EVERYTHING in the eso world is kinda washed out dul brown looking.

Zenimax, hun, if u make a dumbed down, simple, repetive, slow moving game and charge a monthly fee for and have a cash shop and charge 80 dollars for people to try it, it is not going to last in the mmo market.

The charcter models don't look sexy or strong and the armour looks horrable and bland.     

This is a shooter combat game how could you have 30+ skills and still use the mouse to attack?

Also the skill cap in this type of game blows and 30+ skill tab targeting game out the water, you have to aim to hit, beside what elders scroll game have you played with 30+ buttons? 

  udon

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Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 1598

2/10/14 11:02:34 PM#8
Originally posted by DamonVile

 

When you take all the fear of losing out of a game does it really matter how many skills you mash for victory ?

Have you played this game past level 5 or are you basing your statements on impressions you have read of the tutorial zone?

  Sinaku

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 446

2/10/14 11:05:37 PM#9


Originally posted by DamonVile
 

When you take all the fear of losing out of a game does it really matter how many skills you mash for victory ?


Very well said. I am extremely unimpressed with TESO which I have been saying for months.

  osc8r

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Joined: 8/30/06
Posts: 701

2/10/14 11:05:45 PM#10
Originally posted by Warjin 

This is a shooter combat game how could you have 30+ skills and still use the mouse to attack?

Also the skill cap in this type of game blows and 30+ skill tab targeting game out the water, you have to aim to hit, beside what elders scroll game have you played with 30+ buttons? 

You are in for a shock.

  StanlyStanko

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Joined: 10/28/11
Posts: 262

2/10/14 11:05:46 PM#11

Indeed.

Also, switching weapons in combat (to account for tiny skillsets) is still as dumb as when GW2 tried it.

  MikeB

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2/10/14 11:09:06 PM#12
Complexity =/= depth.

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  Rollcage8

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Joined: 3/29/12
Posts: 62

2/10/14 11:09:08 PM#13
Originally posted by DamonVile

 

When you take all the fear of losing out of a game does it really matter how many skills you mash for victory ?

Fear should never be used as a motivator in a video game, and although that means death doesn't mean as much, you can still create a challenge with gameplay choices during a combat scenario. 

And the amount of buttons and what those buttons do is a determining factor of creating enjoyment in a game not driven by fear. 

  Asheram

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Joined: 3/24/10
Posts: 1858

What happens when you get 5 stars do you get a cookie? ;)

2/10/14 11:13:17 PM#14

That is the only gripe I have about this game- the 5 slots

I didn't care for gw2 weapon swap to get more skills nor do I this.

  cronius77

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1282

2/10/14 11:16:00 PM#15
Originally posted by Asheram

That is the only gripe I have about this game- the 5 slots

I didn't care for gw2 weapon swap to get more skills nor do I this.

I played a ton of skyrim since release and even added in the perks mods to change up things. With that being said I found the skill system amounts fine considering you didnt have any hotbar in skyrim just your power and fast attacks. 

  MMOGamer71

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Joined: 11/12/07
Posts: 1516

2/10/14 11:16:14 PM#16
Well at least the skill bar is free !!
  kuey

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Joined: 5/22/12
Posts: 39

2/10/14 11:35:39 PM#17
I'd have disagreed with the difficulty issue if only the battle system wasn't so clunky and the AI so poor. Limited skills with those issues thrown in make the battle system very lack luster. Otherwise it's a very good game, but as the other aspects aren't really part of this topic, that's a story for another time.
  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7007

2/10/14 11:41:14 PM#18

Right, plus active blocking with analog (style) basic attacks, and weapon switch, with interrupts/counters.  

 

 

  Draemos

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Joined: 2/20/10
Posts: 1459

2/10/14 11:44:58 PM#19
Originally posted by Asheram

That is the only gripe I have about this game- the 5 slots

I didn't care for gw2 weapon swap to get more skills nor do I this.

You can put the same weapon in both slots, at that point its just a hotbar switch.  It's a non issue.

  Squeak69

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Joined: 1/21/13
Posts: 959

cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

2/10/14 11:49:26 PM#20

i understand people arguments for less abilities but, i ahve a major issue with it. 

if the game gives me 15 abilities each of which are still usefull to me i would like the option to use those abilites when i want to. giveing me said 15 abilities ( im useing a general number here just for reference) but says i can only use 5 or even 10 with weapon swapping still means there are 5 i cant use, THAT PISSES ME OFF.

im sorry but if you wanted me to only be able to use a set number of abilites then only GIVE me a set number of abilites that i can actully learn. im sick of games that go you can have 100 diffrent abilites learned by your charecter but you can only use 5 of them i hated it in guild wars and i still hate it here.

so to make it simple if i have a abilit learned on a charecter i should be able to use it whenever i want. if the game dousnt want that kind of thing dont let me learn so many abilites then block it behind limited hotbat slots. i fial to understand why people are cool with this its the dumbest thing i ever heard.

 

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