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EverQuest Next

EverQuest Next 

General Discussion  » EQNext F2P, too pricey?

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2/09/14 6:59:22 PM#21

F2P = Demo


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2/09/14 7:07:51 PM#22
Wanna play before release you gotta pay.  Else you wait for release and not have to pay.  Having Founders pack is par for the course for F2P games and is an industry standard.

Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!


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2/09/14 7:16:34 PM#23
Don't see how it's any different then buying a CE or a standard version of any other game. The P2P enthusiasts just try to find anything to support that paying for a game then 15 a month is worth it by taking jabs at other games that are just doing tactics to get people to quit bugging to alpha/beta test while making extra money like any MMO company would do unless they are hiding their game like Zenimax is with ESO. 

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2/09/14 7:19:44 PM#24
Originally posted by Raven322

Nothing is ever 'free'.

You will pay, or have a lesser experience. Your choice.



Also, the difference between the packs and F2P is time.  The packs are worth it to those that want what they offer, just look at the list of items and perks.


Not worth it? No worries, it will be free after a time and the items would not be magnetized a different way so whatever SoE does decide to monetize will apply to both those that bought the packs and those that didn't.


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2/09/14 7:22:56 PM#25
The game is free to play. They only charge if you want to be in Alpha or Beta.

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2/09/14 7:26:33 PM#26

well, thing is, in sub $15 a month, if you dont sub, you dont play.

but in F2P if u dont pay, at least you can still play, 

another thing is , you dont push to play. with sub, if you dont play that month, you lost $15. but in F2P if you dont play , you dont lost, you only spend money on thing you want to buy. and you have option to stop at anytime you want.


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2/10/14 12:40:06 AM#27

having brought a founders pack, the reasons i brought are these


1. to support SOE - i loved Planetside 2 and believe in the EQ L product

2. to get the 4 closed beta keys

3. to be involved in the early stages of the game development - the devs and the alpha community are very openly comicating about whats good/bad and ugly at this stage of the alpha


a bunch more reasons too but those are the main ones.


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2/10/14 2:03:34 PM#28
Originally posted by CalmOceans
Originally posted by Darwa
That's for Everquest Next: Landmark. There's no price been mentioned for Everquest Next.

I doubt EQNext will be any cheaper, since that is supposed to be their main game. They're obviously hurting for cash.

Obviously they want to restrict somewhat how many players play Alpha and Beta, but nevertheless give players the option to play it in that early stage, which really want it.

But as much as i see it, it really did not worked out.. a lot to many bought it.. next time they should better charge 300$ for alpha and 150$ for beta(and even then a lot would buy it)... it is really mind boggling how many people want at any price be in a alpha or beta.. and this trend is not new either, look at almost all kickstarter projects or any other game.

The games though are free. I will wait, i really not that much of a alpha and/or beta player.. i do like finished and rather bug free products.. but thats me. ;)


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2/11/14 12:00:50 PM#29
Originally posted by CalmOceans
Originally posted by Darwa
That's for Everquest Next: Landmark. There's no price been mentioned for Everquest Next.

I doubt EQNext will be any cheaper, since that is supposed to be their main game. They're obviously hurting for cash.

I think the better question is what are people getting for the Founder's Pack. Or even will they end up with anything over and above the opportunity to play the alpha?



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2/11/14 1:30:03 PM#30
Originally posted by gervaise1

will they end up with anything over and above the opportunity to play the alpha?

beyond playing early

alpha players have the opportunity to create saved templates that will last beyond alpha

Templates form the backbone of Landmark. They allow you to save your creations for later use (like Photoshop's custom brushes), so once you've built an awesome home, statue, or other object, you can always have it available. 



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2/11/14 7:24:17 PM#31
Originally posted by CalmOceans

They charge as much as a small console for their EQ Landmark game, which is still a game in a beta stage, how do they think they are going to get a large player base for EQNext with those kind of prices?

I've never seen a game that is so expensive, even most collector's versions of games aren't that expensive.

How can you ask $100 for a game in beta?


Can't tell if you are trolling or not...

Game is F2P. Purchase is for those wanting to experience the game early on and help develop it into what everyone else will eventually get to do free of charge.

How can they ask for people to pay for this? Easy. EQ has been around for 15 years and has devoted fans. Same reason people stand in line for days/weeks for iPhones, Star Wars movie tickets, concerts, etc. Supply & Demand.

Do you have to pay anything? Nope. Will those that do have a huge advantage? Nope. 

No clue on EQN itself, but can assume something similar will happen. As they've said "Open Beta" will be the soft launch, anyone is able to get in at the start (well Founders have a day or 2 head start I think), but really it isn't going to make or break anyone's experience.

Looking at Kickstarters like Star Citizen, it is obvious that there are plenty of people will cash to throw at companies, sight unseen. Luckily in Landmark's case, people got what they paid for and then some. It is great and only getting better.

Don't have the cash, not a huge EQ fan, don't really care, don't spend anything. F2P.

They've hinted that their cash-shop, F2P structure won't be as intrusive as EQ/EQ2 and that the SOE monthly pass $10-15 along with Player Studio (SOE gets a cut of all the P2P transactions), that they won't need to force paying down anyone's throat. We shall see though.

In the end, the Founder's Pack are just a easy way to limit the number of players in Alpha as seen by launch, too many too quickly can be a headache. I'm assuming that Closed Beta will be jammed packed with $20 buy-ins. They want feedback, but leaving the gate open is asking for a flood. They need to bring in the players and data in a manageable amount. So far it has been going great and I am more than happy to pay again for EQN. Compared to the $60-80+ I've spent on Collector's Editions of "finished" games in the past, I am a lot more satisfied with Landmark's Alpha so far.


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2/11/14 7:32:36 PM#32
Originally posted by CalmOceans

They charge as much as a small console for their EQ Landmark game, which is still a game in a beta stage, how do they think they are going to get a large player base for EQNext with those kind of prices?

They already have a large player base, if you had bought the founders packs you would know that. Don't worry about it, if you don't want it don't buy it, there are plenty of people that are enjoying making templates and getting to know the game, engaging in chat with the developers on the forum and overall just experiencing it from the beginning.

It's ok, you can play for free later. 

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2/11/14 7:36:45 PM#33
It's Alpha, and honestly I think the 59$ is a steal.
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2/11/14 7:42:09 PM#34
Originally posted by bcbully
It's Alpha, and honestly I think the 59$ is a steal.
we agree...



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2/11/14 7:51:30 PM#35

Can we just close this thread and called a troll a troll?

Seriously, not the same game.  They're crying because they want things to be free.  Free server, free coding, free updates, free patches, free customer support.  Forget the dev's who need to feed their kids.  Better yet, just export their jobs to China.. I hear they don't have to eat... oh wait, even in China they have to eat?   

I truly dislike SOE.  I hate/hated EQ2 (especially when it first launched).  I thought PS2 was poorly done/handled.  Landmark looks like my kind of relaxing game, so I ponied up for it.  If you don't want to?  Then don't.  Get it for free whenever it finally releases.  Have fun digging and mining copper while I build my marble/mithril palace in the hills and already have all of my gear.

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2/12/14 8:45:36 AM#36

Yeah, OP is definitely a troll, since EQ2, for example, is what Free to Play should truly be. You get the full game to play without any restrictions at all... the only exception, being the latest expansion, which you have to pay for, and additional drops that you get for being a gold member.


Aside from that, EQN and EQN:Landmark, are subscription games.... they just have a Free to Play intro... just like all other SOE MMOs. Go look it up, you pay a monthly fee, and you get the entire content they have developed. Actual Free to Play games, have serious road blocks that prevent you from advancing unless you dump huge amounts of money into some mechanic of the game, be that leveling up weapons/armor, random style card purchases and other things.


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2/14/14 9:04:10 AM#37
Originally posted by CalmOceans

They charge as much as a small console for their EQ Landmark game, which is still a game in a beta stage, how do they think they are going to get a large player base for EQNext with those kind of prices?

I've never seen a game that is so expensive, even most collector's versions of games aren't that expensive.

How can you ask $100 for a game in beta??

Ummm this is to get into alpha or beta...launch will be free.  "The game" doesn't start until launch. Alpha and beta are parts of the development cycle.


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2/14/14 9:12:28 AM#38
It's funny, we used to complain when developers would charge money for incomplete games at launch, (aka a beta) now people pay extra for the privilege of playing early. And are thankful for the "opportunity"


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2/14/14 9:16:34 AM#39
Originally posted by Kyleran
It's funny, we used to complain when developers would charge money for incomplete games at launch, (aka a beta) now people pay extra for the privilege of playing early. And are thankful for the "opportunity"


Too funny and too true.


it's not like you'll run out of content in EQN:L though lol
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2/14/14 6:39:25 PM#40
Originally posted by bcbully

Too funny and too true.


it's not like you'll run out of content in EQN:L though lol


Funny or not, plunking down $200 for my wife and me on Landmark is probably the best gaming decision I've done in a long time.

The community and our neighbours ingame is great. The forums are full of discussion.. some flaming but most of it comes from the passion you get from playing mmos since the turn of the millenia.

I think this comes from the $60+ price.

The developers are also very open and friendly, and although I've never been a big SOE fan, they have impressed me here.


And the most important part. My wife and me are having a blast with this game that is not much more than a tech demo at this stage.

I can't wait for what is to come :)

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