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  quixadhal

Novice Member

Joined: 1/11/05
Posts: 195

2/06/14 2:47:18 PM#81
Originally posted by Scot
Quite possibly, so buy and play now before the F2P hoards turn it into a solo RPG.

LOL, what makes you think it won't be a solo RPG right from the start?  The whole selling point is how much like the solo games of the same franchise it will be...

 

  Mpfive

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Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 274

2/06/14 2:48:09 PM#82
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Husvik
They are launching with the infrastructure for F2P, can't believe peeps would even click No?

So you created a poll and then you're shocked that anyone picked the option that differs from your own opinion? What was the point of this poll again? Every time I come to this website there is a new thread about ESO going f2p. Jesus christ people, it's not even released yet. Why do you even care if it will go f2p in a year? At least wait until you've played it, or at least until it's available to everyone before you make these retarded claims.

I thought the same, i think he wanted all of us to vote yes to make himself feel good inside:)

  JJ82

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Joined: 12/02/13
Posts: 933

2/06/14 2:54:14 PM#83
Originally posted by Husvik
Originally posted by gervaise1
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Iselin
...and give us this day, our daily F2P thread...

and lead us not into monthly rent payments for an online game...

Give us instead paid DLC .....

This is coming along nicely.

Need a deliver us part... waiting, you guys are much more creative than I.

But deliver us from Corporate greed...

"People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  Husvik

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Joined: 6/21/05
Posts: 432

Having fun who cares.

 
OP  2/06/14 3:02:31 PM#84
Originally posted by Mpfive
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Husvik
They are launching with the infrastructure for F2P, can't believe peeps would even click No?

So you created a poll and then you're shocked that anyone picked the option that differs from your own opinion? What was the point of this poll again? Every time I come to this website there is a new thread about ESO going f2p. Jesus christ people, it's not even released yet. Why do you even care if it will go f2p in a year? At least wait until you've played it, or at least until it's available to everyone before you make these retarded claims.

I thought the same, i think he wanted all of us to vote yes to make himself feel good inside:)

Of course you guys nailed it, it's all about me.

On a serious note i thought it would have been an absolute landslide "Yes" I thought more people would see through this thin veil.

On an even more serious note: is the belief that they are going to do something (as in a sub game) and stick to it, this game literally screams F2P, and it really bothers some of us that the wool is continually pulled over players and what do we do? nothing. Wont be long before the believers become the preachers at this rate. Doesn't it bother you that you are investing in one belief, only to have that tossed aside for a completely different model you don't support, but too late you already have.

  Husvik

Elite Member

Joined: 6/21/05
Posts: 432

Having fun who cares.

 
OP  2/06/14 3:04:25 PM#85
Originally posted by JJ82
Originally posted by Husvik
Originally posted by gervaise1
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Iselin
...and give us this day, our daily F2P thread...

and lead us not into monthly rent payments for an online game...

Give us instead paid DLC .....

This is coming along nicely.

Need a deliver us part... waiting, you guys are much more creative than I.

But deliver us from Corporate greed...

PERFECT!

Well done!

  coretex666

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/03/12
Posts: 1820

"I shall take your position into consideration"

2/06/14 3:07:11 PM#86

I dont know.

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  collekt

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/05/13
Posts: 210

2/06/14 3:18:55 PM#87
Originally posted by Husvik
Originally posted by Mpfive
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Husvik
They are launching with the infrastructure for F2P, can't believe peeps would even click No?

So you created a poll and then you're shocked that anyone picked the option that differs from your own opinion? What was the point of this poll again? Every time I come to this website there is a new thread about ESO going f2p. Jesus christ people, it's not even released yet. Why do you even care if it will go f2p in a year? At least wait until you've played it, or at least until it's available to everyone before you make these retarded claims.

I thought the same, i think he wanted all of us to vote yes to make himself feel good inside:)

Of course you guys nailed it, it's all about me.

On a serious note i thought it would have been an absolute landslide "Yes" I thought more people would see through this thin veil.

On an even more serious note: is the belief that they are going to do something (as in a sub game) and stick to it, this game literally screams F2P, and it really bothers some of us that the wool is continually pulled over players and what do we do? nothing. Wont be long before the believers become the preachers at this rate. Doesn't it bother you that you are investing in one belief, only to have that tossed aside for a completely different model you don't support, but too late you already have.

The only preacher I see around here is you. I'm so incredibly sick of hearing people preach about how this game or that game is gonna go f2p in x amount of time. You can guess or state your opinion but until it happens you don't know shit, just like the rest of us. Speculation is not factual. If I were to give you my own speculation, I'd say it's a much better game than WildStar in my own personal opinion but you don't see me in the WS forums preaching about this and that.

  udon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 1614

2/06/14 3:19:03 PM#88
Originally posted by Husvik
Originally posted by Mpfive
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Husvik
They are launching with the infrastructure for F2P, can't believe peeps would even click No?

So you created a poll and then you're shocked that anyone picked the option that differs from your own opinion? What was the point of this poll again? Every time I come to this website there is a new thread about ESO going f2p. Jesus christ people, it's not even released yet. Why do you even care if it will go f2p in a year? At least wait until you've played it, or at least until it's available to everyone before you make these retarded claims.

I thought the same, i think he wanted all of us to vote yes to make himself feel good inside:)

Of course you guys nailed it, it's all about me.

On a serious note i thought it would have been an absolute landslide "Yes" I thought more people would see through this thin veil.

On an even more serious note: is the belief that they are going to do something (as in a sub game) and stick to it, this game literally screams F2P, and it really bothers some of us that the wool is continually pulled over players and what do we do? nothing. Wont be long before the believers become the preachers at this rate. Doesn't it bother you that you are investing in one belief, only to have that tossed aside for a completely different model you don't support, but too late you already have.

Your wrong in assuming this game is being engineered for a F2P conversion.  No developer makes a game intending for it to not meet sales expectations.  Zenimax has every confidence in their game and plans for it to sell many millions of copies and hold those subs for years to come.  If it doesn't they might go to F2P or more likely a TSW style B2P as I think that would work well for this game but it wouldn't be because they are engineering for it from day 1.  People who think SWTOR did that just don't understand the ego's of the average game studio.

  Fermian

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/06/13
Posts: 27

2/06/14 3:23:13 PM#89
They won't get empty servers so it's just the endgame which has to work. And is it going to work.... no idea....   Still voted no tho.
  JJ82

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/02/13
Posts: 933

2/06/14 3:26:23 PM#90
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by Husvik

Of course you guys nailed it, it's all about me.

On a serious note i thought it would have been an absolute landslide "Yes" I thought more people would see through this thin veil.

On an even more serious note: is the belief that they are going to do something (as in a sub game) and stick to it, this game literally screams F2P, and it really bothers some of us that the wool is continually pulled over players and what do we do? nothing. Wont be long before the believers become the preachers at this rate. Doesn't it bother you that you are investing in one belief, only to have that tossed aside for a completely different model you don't support, but too late you already have.

Your wrong in assuming this game is being engineered for a F2P conversion.  No developer makes a game intending for it to not meet sales expectations.  Zenimax has every confidence in their game and plans for it to sell many millions of copies and hold those subs for years to come.  If it doesn't they might go to F2P or more likely a TSW style B2P as I think that would work well for this game but it wouldn't be because they are engineering for it from day 1.  People who think SWTOR did that just don't understand the ego's of the average game studio.

We know they made it to sell millions, that's why the IP name was slapped on the game. We also know they didn't make it for their target audience, the majority of TES fans. If they had done that it would have been open world with no closed off faction lands and it wouldn't be based on DaoC style themepark PvP in a bubble.

Hence the talk about how it will be F2P sooner rather than later.

Look either they did it on purpose or its far worse, they actually believed that instead of making the game as close to the IP as possible, it would be better to make a DaoC based TES game! Personally I think having them go for a money grab would be better as greed doesn't seem nearly as bad as being massively stupid.

"People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  handlewithcare

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/13/14
Posts: 325

2/06/14 3:31:25 PM#91

I hope not cause I am paying my ass off for this game,other people should too.

if this is the way it goes then I should wait till expensive money grabbing games like these go free but its difficult.

not married nor do I want to be and gaming is my hobby.

  deakon

Novice Member

Joined: 3/07/11
Posts: 588

2/06/14 3:32:02 PM#92

Personally I doubt it,

 

They will manage to avoid pretty much all the normal negativity that surrounds mmo's when their population starts to drop, due to the megaserver. So as long as they keep up the regular updates like they have said they are going to ( every 4-6 weeks) and without the negativity that losing some of your launch population always brings, retention should be fairly high imho

  udon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 1614

2/06/14 3:36:00 PM#93
Originally posted by JJ82
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by Husvik

Of course you guys nailed it, it's all about me.

On a serious note i thought it would have been an absolute landslide "Yes" I thought more people would see through this thin veil.

On an even more serious note: is the belief that they are going to do something (as in a sub game) and stick to it, this game literally screams F2P, and it really bothers some of us that the wool is continually pulled over players and what do we do? nothing. Wont be long before the believers become the preachers at this rate. Doesn't it bother you that you are investing in one belief, only to have that tossed aside for a completely different model you don't support, but too late you already have.

Your wrong in assuming this game is being engineered for a F2P conversion.  No developer makes a game intending for it to not meet sales expectations.  Zenimax has every confidence in their game and plans for it to sell many millions of copies and hold those subs for years to come.  If it doesn't they might go to F2P or more likely a TSW style B2P as I think that would work well for this game but it wouldn't be because they are engineering for it from day 1.  People who think SWTOR did that just don't understand the ego's of the average game studio.

We know they made it to sell millions, that's why the IP name was slapped on the game. We also know they didn't make it for their target audience, the majority of TES fans. If they had done that it would have been open world with no closed off faction lands and it wouldn't be based on DaoC style themepark PvP in a bubble.

Hence the talk about how it will be F2P sooner rather than later.

Look either they did it on purpose or its far worse, they actually believed that instead of making the game as close to the IP as possible, it would be better to make a DaoC based TES game! Personally I think having them go for a money grab would be better as greed doesn't seem nearly as bad as being massively stupid.

If you look at past launches pinning a game on PVE content doesn't have a good track record.  You just can't release enough content fast enough to keep up the rate of consumption.  WoW is the only one that has managed it large scale and I think games like EQ2,TSW, Rift, LOTR, SWTOR, etc. have managed at a smaller F2P scale to do it.  PVP is cheap content when you consider the amount of time people will spend in it per dollar spent developing it.  Time will tell if this was a smart strategy or not as most PVP games never really get traction but if ESO manages to it might very well look like a brilliant move in a year from now.

As I have said before ESO will live or die on faction warfare.  Is that a really worthy successor to the TES single player franchise?  Probably not but it's the one the owners of the IP wanted to make.

  greenreen

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Joined: 11/19/12
Posts: 1447

2/06/14 3:36:44 PM#94

I'm letting all the cards fall where they may.

I'm not jumping in too early and making it my own fault if something were to happen because I was too "ready".

I'm watching for signs of doom but not placing them earlier than they present themselves.

I'm going to watch their release schedule for content updates, watch their forums once they are open publically, watch how they react to players and just watch.

I won't hold everything other developers have done against them but I will whip those memories out of storage in a heartbeat if I think things are going toward a free route.

 

I have no clue what is going to happen with this game but I will stay on their side if they choose to stay sub without micro-transactions. If the game ever goes free with all the associated nickel and diming, I will dump it like a rock and never return. I simply don't play free games anymore, if they drive me out of the genre all it means is that I'll have more time finish my own game. There are lines in the sand drawn by me and free to play is one of them. For others it's graphics or animation. The payment model for me is something I can't overcome. I tried to get into free games and I just can't. It doesn't feel like a game to me, it feels like a strip mall store and I can almost see college kids folding shirts in the corner setting them on racks.

  ZizouX

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Joined: 5/17/11
Posts: 666

2/06/14 3:39:23 PM#95
Originally posted by amber-r
Every moderm mmo has, why will this be any different.

FFXIV wont.

  ArChWind

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Joined: 3/19/11
Posts: 494

2/06/14 3:39:32 PM#96
F2P by November.
  rodingo

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Posts: 1766

2/06/14 3:42:49 PM#97
History has the tendency to repeat itself.  Why would this time be any different?

"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  SpottyGekko

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2/06/14 3:46:46 PM#98

I don't know whether it will go F2P or not, but I'm fairly confident that 75% of the players in the game on launch day won't be there 12 months later. They might all be replaced with new starters, but it will be a miracle if they're still playing regularly (and frequently) a year after launch.

 

So why should the average player worry about whether the game will go F2P after the first year ? They'll be long gone by then...

  MrG8

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Posts: 79

2/06/14 4:00:19 PM#99

Dont really care, I'd gladly pay per month.. and I also gladly not pay as long as the community stays good enough after f2p.

But you're right, there is a good chance it will go f2p, but not in a year, maybe in 2 years! So all you poor people will have to wait ;)

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