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  collekt

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/05/13
Posts: 210

2/06/14 3:55:50 PM#21
Well said. I'm not familiar with EVE, but what you have described here sounds like a WAY better solution than the half baked implementation that Darkfall seems to have.
  Realbigdeal

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Joined: 9/28/08
Posts: 1648

2/06/14 5:06:49 PM#22
Originally posted by ShortyBible

I was just about to log into paypal and spend $60.00 on the game and a 6 month sub, then I recalled that this game segregates its' community. Most valuable players get to have discussions with the Development team and Less valuable players have to listen them telling you in every thread "if you only knew what I know".

To me this is not only offensive, but highly insulting.

All that said I am glad they took down the $40.00 barrier and offered discounted subs. I hope that the promotion is a success, but I will not pay to play a game where the Devs communicate with a few players and others are ignored.

You must earn your place in the MVP forum bob like everyone else. They even got banned players up in this bitch; they changed and proved that they can contribute.

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  Lustmord

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Joined: 12/21/05
Posts: 1078

 
OP  2/06/14 5:29:32 PM#23

Can we please have a single thread in this forum that isn't completely derailed by the same people every time?

Thanks,

  Tibernicuspa

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/03/13
Posts: 986

2/06/14 5:33:03 PM#24
Originally posted by ilives
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
It's their game, they did the coding for it, they launched it. Some people are so determined to rewrite reality.

Clearly you are misinformed. 

Mgame purchased the rights to run the game in Asia and was launched solely by MGame.  AV sold a product and was providing support per their agreement.

That's literally what I just said. AV did the code, the customized version of the game, all the server development, the publisher just released it.

  Dreamo84

Defender of Worlds

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 2994

I actually still like MMORPGs

2/06/14 5:36:13 PM#25
Seriously? 3 month old inactive accounts have to contact support to restore their characters? In this day and age... this is almost barbaric.

  User Deleted
2/06/14 5:43:48 PM#26
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Seriously? 3 month old inactive accounts have to contact support to restore their characters? In this day and age... this is almost barbaric.

LOL

 

EDIT: I thought you were joking

 

"Please Note: Regarding the Return to Darkfall players: If your account has been inactive for over 3 months, your character is stored. In order to restore the character you need to contact support by submitting a support ticket and they will do it for you as quickly as possible."

 

The promo will be over by the time AV support gets around to it.

  Dawgdoc

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/17/09
Posts: 31

2/06/14 5:46:04 PM#27
Originally posted by Lustmord
You know the big patch is coming.
They are certainly gonna drop it during this promotion. 

ROFL....

 

Sorry bro not really laughing at you but moreso at AV.

 

To assume that AV does anything that makes sense is ludicrous.

 

Enjoy DFUW. I  for one wont be duped into returning to listen to more of their empty promises and lies.

 

Hmmm....anyone remember 4 legged running? In the game at EU release! And DF 2010 too! What an awesome expansion!

  User Deleted
2/06/14 5:48:57 PM#28
Originally posted by Dawgdoc

To assume that AV does anything that makes sense is ludicrous.

 

Enjoy DFUW. I  for one wont be duped into returning to listen to more of their empty promises and lies.

 

Hmmm....anyone remember 4 legged running? In the game at EU release! And DF 2010 too! What an awesome expansion!

You mean this stuff?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sMJdEQrV1u8&noredirect=1#t=523

  Dreamo84

Defender of Worlds

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 2994

I actually still like MMORPGs

2/06/14 5:49:08 PM#29
Originally posted by ilives
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Seriously? 3 month old inactive accounts have to contact support to restore their characters? In this day and age... this is almost barbaric.

LOL

 

EDIT: I thought you were joking

 

"Please Note: Regarding the Return to Darkfall players: If your account has been inactive for over 3 months, your character is stored. In order to restore the character you need to contact support by submitting a support ticket and they will do it for you as quickly as possible."

 

The promo will be over by the time AV support gets around to it.

Scary that I am not joking isn't it?! I remember an MMO deleting characters back in the 90s and even that one doesn't do it anymore. Mind boggling... they must be hard up if they need to remove inactive characters.

  User Deleted
2/06/14 6:00:33 PM#30
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Originally posted by ilives
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Seriously? 3 month old inactive accounts have to contact support to restore their characters? In this day and age... this is almost barbaric.

LOL

 

EDIT: I thought you were joking

 

"Please Note: Regarding the Return to Darkfall players: If your account has been inactive for over 3 months, your character is stored. In order to restore the character you need to contact support by submitting a support ticket and they will do it for you as quickly as possible."

 

The promo will be over by the time AV support gets around to it.

Scary that I am not joking isn't it?! I remember an MMO deleting characters back in the 90s and even that one doesn't do it anymore. Mind boggling... they must be hard up if they need to remove inactive characters.

AV never ceases to amaze.

  Lustmord

Elite Member

Joined: 12/21/05
Posts: 1078

 
OP  2/06/14 6:05:23 PM#31
They store your character. You can have it unlocked quickly with a ticket.
It's a security feature, so dormant accounts don't get hacked and turned into farming bots.

You guys know this, but you just want to defame the game.
  Caaahl

Novice Member

Joined: 5/19/05
Posts: 241

2/06/14 6:06:47 PM#32
Originally posted by ShortyBible
 

Darkfalls MVP don't represent the community. Tasos just pick players that make the most noise to make them feel special and keep them quiet.

 

Thats simple not true. Dont spread false facts if you don't know what you are talking about.

There is a specific thread in the MVP forums where the current MVP members can suggest other forum members to become a MVP. And then there is an open discussion within this thread whether or not the suggested person should become MVP.

Has nothing to do at all with what Tasos thinks.

Caaahl / DAA KAPUTTMACHAA ---DF/DFUW

  Braindome

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/06/11
Posts: 572

2/06/14 6:10:27 PM#33

Well at this price I can at least give it a shot and say that I tried it, I liked the first Darkfall a bit, plus the prices are already active on Steam so yeah i'll try it now.

For $9.99 with a free month of play nothing to really lose at this point. 

  User Deleted
2/06/14 6:11:01 PM#34
Originally posted by Lustmord
They store your character. You can have it unlocked quickly with a ticket.
It's a security feature, so dormant accounts don't get hacked and turned into farming bots.


 

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

 

Even more so since you've been saying for a year you can't bot in DFUW.

  ShortyBible

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/14/10
Posts: 285

2/06/14 6:12:40 PM#35
Originally posted by Caaahl
Originally posted by ShortyBible
 

Darkfalls MVP don't represent the community. Tasos just pick players that make the most noise to make them feel special and keep them quiet.

 

Thats simple not true. Dont spread false facts if you don't know what you are talking about.

There is a specific thread in the MVP forums where the current MVP members can suggest other forum members to become a MVP. And then there is an open discussion within this thread whether or not the suggested person should become MVP.

Has nothing to do at all with what Tasos thinks.

Well have fun and enjoy your discussions.

But don't try to compare this half baked idea to Eves" CSM program, because it's not even close.

Edit to say.

The player in this link.

https://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?386781-Hi-AV-We-are-unsubscribed-but-we-re-still-here

States that Tasos sent him a personal invite to the MVP forums after his Topic got some attention.

"For what it's worth, Tasos gave me an invitation to the MVP forums for this post. It's ironical, and surprising. But I'll take it. I'll try to represent my MLVP bros as best as I can."

Maybe he is lying then or are  you?

 

 

http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415

  User Deleted
2/06/14 6:14:51 PM#36
Originally posted by Braindome

Well at this price I can at least give it a shot and say that I tried it, I like the first Darkfall a bit, plus the prices are already active on Steam so yeah i'll try it now.

For $9.99 with a free month of play nothing to really lose at this point. 

Good luck, that's exactly what AV is hoping for.

  ShortyBible

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/14/10
Posts: 285

2/06/14 6:39:01 PM#37
Originally posted by Realbigdeal
Originally posted by ShortyBible

I was just about to log into paypal and spend $60.00 on the game and a 6 month sub, then I recalled that this game segregates its' community. Most valuable players get to have discussions with the Development team and Less valuable players have to listen them telling you in every thread "if you only knew what I know".

To me this is not only offensive, but highly insulting.

All that said I am glad they took down the $40.00 barrier and offered discounted subs. I hope that the promotion is a success, but I will not pay to play a game where the Devs communicate with a few players and others are ignored.

You must earn your place in the MVP forum bob like everyone else. They even got banned players up in this bitch; they changed and proved that they can contribute.

Thank you, but no thanks. I am not interested in being an MVP.

http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415

  Tibernicuspa

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Joined: 11/03/13
Posts: 986

2/06/14 7:22:23 PM#38
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Caaahl
Originally posted by Bluefear77

I'm thinking about getting this game, but would be playing it alone.

Should I not waste my time?

What are the chances of finding a good guild?

You can play solo, but it's not the best idea if you are fairly new to the game.

Getting into a clan make life on Agon so much easier and more enjoyable. Clan mates will craft gear for you and teach you some tricks in PvP and help you with your feats to gain Prowess.

I can only speak for EU server, but finding a decent clan shouldnt be difficult. Just ask in global chat. There are clans that specifically take in newbies.

 

@ ShortyBible:

I know what you mean. People are trying to convince AV that everybody needs to be informed about the topics of the MVP forums. Right now it is a dilemma. I, for one, know what AV has in store for the next couple of patches, but i can only say to you "trust me, it's good", which makes me one of the people you described and dislike. There needs to be at least a weekly MVP update for all people.

So, it's basically like an ongoing NDA with a small portion of the playerbase that are considered privileged enough to know what's going on with the game they pay for on a monthly basis? I agree with the guy a few posts up, this is both insulting and infuriating to the rest of the 'normal' players. Very bad idea on their behalf, because even if it helps them with development, it's going to piss off players.

Not really. It's the same thing CCP uses to manage Eve. The hard reality is that the regular forums are so loosely moderated that it is literally impossible to have a coherent discussion, because over the years the forums have become a trolls nest. They call it Forumfall for a reason.

The devs invited the most consistently knowledgable people about the game to discuss ideas of ways to directly improve Darkfall. The rest of the community gets updated rather whenever progress is made on an issue, and is consolidated. Better game improvements have come out of this system, faster, than previously.

Forums are pretty much always going to perform in that manner, and 'hard reality' or not the majority of your customer base doesn't enjoy being segmented into the less important part of the player base. If you really want to do something like this, you do it behind the scenes so that the rest of your players can continue on without being insulted or feeling left out. You don't slap a big section onto the forums that basically reads: "Sorry, you don't know shit and you don't matter so you don't get to participate in the real discussions that lie behind this gate."

The difference between Forumfall and a regular MMO forum is that Forumfall has always had free form moderation. Pretty much the only thing that got mod attention was racism. This created an event more toxic than usual forum community. Communication there is literally impossible, hence the VIP forums where the devs consult with people who actually play and care about the game. Hiding it from the players would be a thousand times worse than making them aware of it and communicating what was being discussed.

  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2389

2/07/14 9:48:27 AM#39
Originally posted by ShortyBible

 

Thanks for making my points as stated earlier in this thread. I really do appreciate your response.

You are the type of individual I would have elected to represent me in the MVP forums :)

These are the MVPs in this thread:)

You would never see an Eve CSM display this type of arrogance.

Shorty, I'm in the MVP forums.  I agree with you that Darkfall should not have the MVP forums and I believe should instead have the dev interaction in a heavily moderated suggestion forum.  With that said, the forum community is pretty bad and at this point in time probably impossible to moderate. 

The dev interaction is not that great though (at least lately) so there is nothing that special about being in it.  AV picks the subject topic thread, usually with AV's thought of an idea to implement and the MVP's will discuss the topic to death.

Me personally, I'm an older gamer who is trying to make UW more EvE like and my ideas on the topic subject usually equate to trying to make Darkfall more of a sandbox. 

  Nephaerius

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2/07/14 9:51:57 AM#40
All the complaining about MVP forums is getting old at this point eve, ddO, LOTRO and tons of other games have player councils that no one bitches about it all but if Aventurine does it it's a crime against humanity grow up and get over yourselves

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