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  Ratero

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1/30/14 9:53:53 PM#41

I think everyone here either does not know about or has over looked what I consider a major "Pro" for WildStar.  WildStar will support "Add-Ons" and there is already a Add-On community creating all sorts of new widgets you can load up and use.  WildStar also has a very deep crafting system which is superior to ESO's crafting system.  Also, the Housing system is bar none the best I have ever seen in a game to date.

If people would look into WildStar and see past what they perceive as cartoony graphics then they may see something that has depth and enough content to keep players involved for years to come.

Just putting my 2 copper in here since I think people are overlooking some nice features that shine in WildStar.

Ratero.

  Randallt3mp

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1/30/14 10:14:07 PM#42
Originally posted by Lugors
So when do they start the open betas on both of these so we can actually make an informed comparison?

well Wildstar has plenty of info and recent streams up to watch to get a feel for the gameplay. 

ESO has a few videos from the last 3 years and new Cinematic Trailer!!!  The trailer is awesome by the way.  Kinda reminds me how awesome SWTOR's was and then we played the game...

MMOs Played: FFXI,Age of Conan, Aion, Rift, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, GW2

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Waiting For: Wildstar, The Repopulation, Archeage, TESO, Warhammer 40K:EC, EQN

  Randallt3mp

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1/30/14 10:18:08 PM#43
Originally posted by Ratero

I think everyone here either does not know about or has over looked what I consider a major "Pro" for WildStar.  WildStar will support "Add-Ons" and there is already a Add-On community creating all sorts of new widgets you can load up and use.  WildStar also has a very deep crafting system which is superior to ESO's crafting system.  Also, the Housing system is bar none the best I have ever seen in a game to date.

If people would look into WildStar and see past what they perceive as cartoony graphics then they may see something that has depth and enough content to keep players involved for years to come.

Just putting my 2 copper in here since I think people are overlooking some nice features that shine in WildStar.

Ratero.

+1 Agreed.  Unfortunately most new players are too young and spoiled so they only want the newest flashiest effects money can buy and to hell with depth and meaningful gameplay.  They just want awesome CGI.  Basically they dont wan't an MMO they want an mildly interactive movie....meh. different strokes i guess...

Or they just wanna seem cool and tough and if their 14yr old bros see them playing a silly cartoon game they'll get called a *** at highschool.

MMOs Played: FFXI,Age of Conan, Aion, Rift, SWTOR, TERA, TSW, GW2

Playing:None

Waiting For: Wildstar, The Repopulation, Archeage, TESO, Warhammer 40K:EC, EQN

  Xirik

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1/30/14 10:18:47 PM#44

Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.

"You have some serious mental issues you may need to seek some help for. There are others who post things, but do not post them in the way you do. Out of every person who posts crazy shit in this forum, you have some of the craziest and scariest" -FarReach

  keithian

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1/30/14 10:21:32 PM#45
Originally posted by Xirik

Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.

Lol that was funny, about the better graphics part.

There Is Always Hope!

  keithian

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1/30/14 10:24:13 PM#46
Originally posted by Ratero

I think everyone here either does not know about or has over looked what I consider a major "Pro" for WildStar.  WildStar will support "Add-Ons" and there is already a Add-On community creating all sorts of new widgets you can load up and use.  WildStar also has a very deep crafting system which is superior to ESO's crafting system.  Also, the Housing system is bar none the best I have ever seen in a game to date.

If people would look into WildStar and see past what they perceive as cartoony graphics then they may see something that has depth and enough content to keep players involved for years to come.

Just putting my 2 copper in here since I think people are overlooking some nice features that shine in WildStar.

Ratero.

If the Add ons look like Legoland who cares. ESO will allow UI Mods which considering the depth of the mod community should really make the UI even more awesome. As far as the crafting system, prove it.

There Is Always Hope!

  Xirik

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1/30/14 10:49:18 PM#47
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Xirik

Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.

Lol that was funny, about the better graphics part.

Hurt the truth does

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  cpupower

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1/30/14 11:01:37 PM#48
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Elder Scrolls Online

Pros:

Story

Cinematics

Graphics

Past Elderscrolls are part of world

Exploration

Voice Actors

Cons:

Lack of equipable skills

Lack of information

NDA (no streams on twitch)

Graphics may interfere with Cyrodill large scale pvp (lag)

Mega Server (Potentially a con, just ignore everyone outside your guild)

Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)

Mega Server (limited to building rivals)

__________________________________________________________________________

Wildstar

Pros

PVP leveling whole game

War Plots (40 vs 40 castles/raid bosses) (Best endgame pvp gear)

Server open pvp zones while leveling

More open with its information, beta streaming on twitch daily

Gameplay looks better

Simple graphics mean more players will be able to play in one area

Server rivals/trash talk (Traditional servers)

Cons

Story (Seems like a joke, some might like that)

Grave yard pvp

Cartoony

No world siege at launch (maybe later they said, no guarantee)

WOWish

 

 

 

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

 

  cpupower

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1/30/14 11:06:36 PM#49
I played both Wildstar and ESO extensively. Without a doubt ESO is a lot more FUN!!! 
  artemisentr4

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1/30/14 11:11:17 PM#50
Originally posted by Xirik
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Xirik

Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.

Lol that was funny, about the better graphics part.

Hurt the truth does

That picture has better graphics than Wildstar. Just saying......

“How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
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  Xirik

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1/30/14 11:17:59 PM#51
Originally posted by artemisentr4
Originally posted by Xirik
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Xirik

Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.

Lol that was funny, about the better graphics part.

Hurt the truth does

That picture has better graphics than Wildstar. Just saying......

A picture from real life has better graphics then wildstar? EGADS MAN You are SMART!

"You have some serious mental issues you may need to seek some help for. There are others who post things, but do not post them in the way you do. Out of every person who posts crazy shit in this forum, you have some of the craziest and scariest" -FarReach

  cpupower

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1/30/14 11:27:08 PM#52
Originally posted by Entinerint

It's ESO for me.  I played the Wildstar beta and was not impressed.  Some interesting features but overall the world felt very shallow.

 

Not saying ESO is vastly superior (although ESO's combat IS vastly superior in almost every way to Wildstar's) but my love for TES and the fact that it's not nearly as goofy or cartoony is what does it for me.

I'm with Entinerint It's ESO for me too... I also played Wilstar beta and was not impressed at all. I love WoW and I thought Wildstar was gonna be right up alley, but It was far from it. Wildstar reminds me of a PS3 Platform action game like "Ratchet and Clank". When I played ESO beta immediately I was hooked. Believe me unless your a big fan of games like "Ratchet and Clank" "Crash bandicoot" "Dexter" "Free Realms" ect... your going to be very disappointed Wildstar. Last just because they have like 17 ex-WoW devs working on Wildstar don't expect it to be as good, its not even close.

  baphamet

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1/30/14 11:27:21 PM#53


Originally posted by Randallt3mp

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by reeereee If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.
  a month after launch nobody is going to give a shit about pre-orders, most people probably don't give a shit now. meanwhile, wildstar will continue to have cheesy cartoony graphics, no thanks, not my cup of tea.
sucks for you that all you care about is graphics. must be hard for you to find your perfect game.

But I guess thats how it is for some people. they just cant really handle settling down with something, they would just be more satisfied to search endlessly.


funny thing is, i am not one of those people. i am not picky but i just don't care for cartooney graphics.

like i said, its just not my cup of tea, which is why i am looking to play this instead.

  baphamet

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1/30/14 11:30:52 PM#54


Originally posted by azzamasin
The only negative of Wildstar is it's graphics.  I can't stand the look of cartoony worlds it just doesn't suit me no matter how good the game is or can be.

 

For all the negatives of ESO, and god knows there are a ton, I would still rather play it because at least it looks nice.


agree with your first point. i am a EQ1 vet and i just can't get exited about EQN for the same reason.

but at least that game is F2P so i can try it and maybe i can make an exception if there is a character model i can live with.

doubt it tho.

  baphamet

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1/30/14 11:32:01 PM#55


Originally posted by artemisentr4

Originally posted by Xirik

Originally posted by keithian

Originally posted by Xirik Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.
Lol that was funny, about the better graphics part.
Hurt the truth does
That picture has better graphics than Wildstar. Just saying......

LOL 8/10

  skyline385

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1/30/14 11:37:54 PM#56

I want to like Wildstar badly because of how awesome the devs are but imo the game has few issues.

First of all, there is a lack of lore when compared to IPs like SW, WoW, ES or even GW. The cartoon-ish graphics while looking cool further take away from the immersion for me. Many people have also complained about quest hubs feeling exactly like what the name suggests. Sure, the combat might be fun but Wildstar lacks immersion for me. Because of that, i am not sure which one will come out on top, atleast for me....

  Grailer

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1/30/14 11:44:25 PM#57
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

 

and I havent played Wildstar 

 

Read this and laughed .

 

I haven't played ESO so why would I make a pros and cons about it ?

 

I know this . Elder Scrolls has a lot of past history and mostly good .

Wildstar is totally new type of franchise/story .   Even WOW had a past history .

 

 

  Lord.Bachus

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1/31/14 12:11:37 AM#58

The big difference...

- One of these games is designed with only a single goal ... it needs to be fun

-One of these games is designed to be a lore filled immersive world where your character should feel part of that world..

 

In this it totally reminds me of how EQ2 vs WoW where set appart at their release..

 

i.e. it are two totally different games, almost impossbile to compare.

 

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  artemisentr4

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1/31/14 12:13:48 AM#59
Originally posted by Xirik
Originally posted by artemisentr4
Originally posted by Xirik
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by Xirik

Wildstar looks better graphically, Going first person in ESO makes everything look like Morrowind. If you play in 3rd person then you see crappy animation that looks like your legs and upper body are separate entities and not part of one body.  After that you notice that everything in the game is colored brown and grey and anything remotely colored is very dull, talk about depressing.

Lol that was funny, about the better graphics part.

Hurt the truth does

That picture has better graphics than Wildstar. Just saying......

A picture from real life has better graphics then wildstar? EGADS MAN You are SMART!

What part of "real life" is that picture?

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1/31/14 12:25:27 AM#60

Some more Wildstar pros over TESO:

-  WAY more end game content, especially 20-40 man raids

-  Better designed PvE (I know this is arguable, but I think once people play both this will be a no brainer for most)

-  Housing

-  Lots of minigames in the form of challenges.

-  Unique dungeon/adventures that break away from the standard dungeon crawling.

 

Both are under NDA (though Wildstar has press members able to stream and reveal info about the game) so it's hard to really get down into the nitty gritty on the pros and cons of both.

Raptr link because it's the cool new trend:

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