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  TinglySidewinda

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Joined: 1/28/14
Posts: 22

 
OP  1/30/14 4:56:10 PM#1

Elder Scrolls Online

Pros:

Story

Cinematics

Graphics

Past Elderscrolls are part of world

Exploration

Voice Actors

Cons:

Lack of equipable skills

Lack of information

NDA (no streams on twitch)

Graphics may interfere with Cyrodill large scale pvp (lag)

Mega Server (Potentially a con, just ignore everyone outside your guild)

Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)

Mega Server (limited to building rivals)

__________________________________________________________________________

Wildstar

Pros

PVP leveling whole game

War Plots (40 vs 40 castles/raid bosses) (Best endgame pvp gear)

Server open pvp zones while leveling

More open with its information, beta streaming on twitch daily

Gameplay looks better

Simple graphics mean more players will be able to play in one area

Server rivals/trash talk (Traditional servers)

Cons

Story (Seems like a joke, some might like that)

Grave yard pvp

Cartoony

No world siege at launch (maybe later they said, no guarantee)

WOWish

 

 

 

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

  smokeybha

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/03/04
Posts: 125

1/30/14 5:07:19 PM#2
That list didn't look biased at all did it... 8)
  TinglySidewinda

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/28/14
Posts: 22

 
OP  1/30/14 5:10:42 PM#3
Originally posted by smokeybha
That list didn't look biased at all did it... 8)

My information on Wildstar is only based on 3 days research.. I wouldnt even call in depth research.  But yes... it just feels more open to finding this shit out than having to try and look through Q&A's ESO provides....

They release around the same time, i was pumped for ESO but I gotta give wildstar atleast a look before I jump into ESO blind folded.

I have also heard of some guilds jumping ship, and moving to Wildstar over ESO.   Just another dudes opinion.

 

 

 

  Comaf

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/13/10
Posts: 1135

I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters.

1/30/14 5:18:19 PM#4
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Elder Scrolls Online

Pros:

Story

Cinematics

Graphics

Past Elderscrolls are part of world

Exploration

Voice Actors

Cons:

Lack of equipable skills

Lack of information

NDA (no streams on twitch)

Graphics may interfere with Cyrodill large scale pvp (lag)

Mega Server (Potentially a con, just ignore everyone outside your guild)

Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)

Mega Server (limited to building rivals)

__________________________________________________________________________

Wildstar

Pros

PVP leveling whole game

War Plots (40 vs 40 castles/raid bosses) (Best endgame pvp gear)

Server open pvp zones while leveling

More open with its information, beta streaming on twitch daily

Gameplay looks better

Simple graphics mean more players will be able to play in one area

Server rivals/trash talk (Traditional servers)

Cons

Story (Seems like a joke, some might like that)

Grave yard pvp

Cartoony

No world siege at launch (maybe later they said, no guarantee)

WOWish

 

 

 

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

"Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)"

 

I facepalm every time I see that yet another person has skimmed the info so quickly that they didn't get the part that read:

 

IMPERIALS ONLY

 

And you forgot TESO: PROS = The first mmoRPG since Dark Age of Camelot that offers a 3 faction experience that doesn't involve immediate faction crossover for forced pvp while questing.  In other words, you have a true culture of your own to grow up in, not some cosmetically induced vapor-lore where you have a race but no country to call your own.

 

Wildstar Con:  Same races beating each other up yet again, proving once more this is a co-op E-Sport and not an mmo where RPG means a damned thing.

  Wighty

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/10/08
Posts: 586

1/30/14 5:21:02 PM#5
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Elder Scrolls Online

Pros:

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

Cons:

NDA

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

__________________________________________________________________________

Wildstar

Pros

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

Cons

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

Opinion

 

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

That's about all I got from this...

What are your other Hobbies?

Gaming is Dirt Cheap compared to this...

  TinglySidewinda

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/28/14
Posts: 22

 
OP  1/30/14 5:23:24 PM#6
Originally posted by Comaf
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Elder Scrolls Online

Pros:

Story

Cinematics

Graphics

Past Elderscrolls are part of world

Exploration

Voice Actors

Cons:

Lack of equipable skills

Lack of information

NDA (no streams on twitch)

Graphics may interfere with Cyrodill large scale pvp (lag)

Mega Server (Potentially a con, just ignore everyone outside your guild)

Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)

Mega Server (limited to building rivals)

__________________________________________________________________________

Wildstar

Pros

PVP leveling whole game

War Plots (40 vs 40 castles/raid bosses) (Best endgame pvp gear)

Server open pvp zones while leveling

More open with its information, beta streaming on twitch daily

Gameplay looks better

Simple graphics mean more players will be able to play in one area

Server rivals/trash talk (Traditional servers)

Cons

Story (Seems like a joke, some might like that)

Grave yard pvp

Cartoony

No world siege at launch (maybe later they said, no guarantee)

WOWish

 

 

 

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

"Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)"

 

I facepalm every time I see that yet another person has skimmed the info so quickly that they didn't get the part that read:

 

IMPERIALS ONLY

 

And you forgot TESO: PROS = The first mmoRPG since Dark Age of Camelot that offers a 3 faction experience that doesn't involve immediate faction crossover for forced pvp while questing.  In other words, you have a true culture of your own to grow up in, not some cosmetically induced vapor-lore where you have a race but no country to call your own.

 

Wildstar Con:  Same races beating each other up yet again, proving once more this is a co-op E-Sport and not an mmo where RPG means a damned thing.

Unless its a typo:

 

Pre-Order Elder Scrolls Online to Receive The Explorer's Pack!

Pre-Order Elder Scrolls Online to Receive The In-Game Explorer's Pack!

Explorer's Pack includes:

  • Four Bonus Treasure Maps
  • Scuttler Vanity Pet
  • Play Any Race in Any Alliance

http://www.ebgames.ca/pc/games/the-elder-scrolls-online-with-bonus/313263?ref=recpdp&cross=712988#bonusFeatures

  reeereee

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 708

1/30/14 5:25:06 PM#7
If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.
  spizz

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/04
Posts: 2585

1/30/14 5:27:07 PM#8
I think it is pointless since not everyone played both games and there is still the NDA up.
  SonOfValmar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/30/14
Posts: 49

1/30/14 5:32:01 PM#9
Originally posted by Comaf
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

"Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)"

 

I facepalm every time I see that yet another person has skimmed the info so quickly that they didn't get the part that read:

 

IMPERIALS ONLY

 

And you forgot TESO: PROS = The first mmoRPG since Dark Age of Camelot that offers a 3 faction experience that doesn't involve immediate faction crossover for forced pvp while questing.  In other words, you have a true culture of your own to grow up in, not some cosmetically induced vapor-lore where you have a race but no country to call your own.

 

Wildstar Con:  Same races beating each other up yet again, proving once more this is a co-op E-Sport and not an mmo where RPG means a damned thing.

Unfortunate, but it seems that you skimmed over the info and failed to see where you can clearly play Any Race, Any Faction with the Explorer's Pack. So all of that spiel about DAOC is rendered moot with the pre-order bonus. Whoever was in charge of making the pre-order decisions does not hold your love of "true culture of your own" as tightly as you do.

And here you went and tried to discredit someone's post only to lead yourself into looking foolish. A shame, really.

  TinglySidewinda

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/28/14
Posts: 22

 
OP  1/30/14 5:32:16 PM#10
Originally posted by reeereee
If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.

Soooooooooo True

 

But atleast I can go watch Wildstar being played... I ve played ESO, I  think the hybrid skill system is cool but its limited by the amount of skills you can equip. 

  baphamet

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2643

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1/30/14 5:33:00 PM#11


Originally posted by reeereee
If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.

a month after launch nobody is going to give a shit about pre-orders, most people probably don't give a shit now.

meanwhile, wildstar will continue to have cheesy cartoony graphics, no thanks, not my cup of tea.

  Volgore

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1/30/14 5:34:15 PM#12

You can't really have a pros and cons discussion about two games that are under NDA.

  Pocahinha

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Joined: 7/14/09
Posts: 570

1/30/14 5:34:44 PM#13
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Elder Scrolls Online

Pros:

Story

Cinematics

Graphics

Past Elderscrolls are part of world

Exploration

Voice Actors

Cons:

Lack of equipable skills

Lack of information

NDA (no streams on twitch)

Graphics may interfere with Cyrodill large scale pvp (lag)

Mega Server (Potentially a con, just ignore everyone outside your guild)

Preorder (whats the point of raced based factions if they can be played as any, with preorder, could lead to balancing issues at launch)

Mega Server (limited to building rivals)

__________________________________________________________________________

Wildstar

Pros

PVP leveling whole game

War Plots (40 vs 40 castles/raid bosses) (Best endgame pvp gear)

Server open pvp zones while leveling

More open with its information, beta streaming on twitch daily

Gameplay looks better

Simple graphics mean more players will be able to play in one area

Server rivals/trash talk (Traditional servers)

Cons

Story (Seems like a joke, some might like that)

Grave yard pvp

Cartoony

No world siege at launch (maybe later they said, no guarantee)

WOWish

 

 

 

Ultimately for me its gameplay that trumps, and I havent played Wildstar as of yet, but just watching people play the gameplay looks better.  I had zero interest until I actually got more information on WAR Plots....

I dont buy ESO's Cyrodill working with super limited skills... and high graphics in terms of mmos.  

As far as the games, I feel Wildstar is more open as a company.   Whereas ESO has something to hide. 

Grave yard pvp

Cartoony

WOWish

 

These are pros not cons imo...and lots of other people...depending on personal taste.

  cnutemp

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Joined: 7/01/12
Posts: 232

1/30/14 5:35:32 PM#14
Originally posted by smokeybha
That list didn't look biased at all did it... 8)

kinda like your post history... 8)

  TinglySidewinda

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/28/14
Posts: 22

 
OP  1/30/14 5:38:08 PM#15

The best feature WOW had was its UI, so yes that could be a pro for wildstar...

 

I agree completely, but what ive been told its, guildwars 2 meets WOW... in terms of feel for Wildstar.  Both which were very smooth controls and UI.

 

 

 

 

  DamonVile

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4820

1/30/14 5:40:16 PM#16

PRO they're both mmos

Con..people here don't know when a game isn't designed for them....wait...that's not the games fault. I can't think of a con...

There's a saying about evolution and why we have two eyes and two ears but only one mouth. Clearly it didn't see the internet coming or it never would have given us ten fingers to type with.

  Cirandra

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Joined: 11/20/13
Posts: 46

1/30/14 5:46:47 PM#17
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Originally posted by reeereee
If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.

Soooooooooo True

 

But atleast I can go watch Wildstar being played... I ve played ESO, I  think the hybrid skill system is cool but its limited by the amount of skills you can equip. 

since u have played ESO can u tell us how many skills can u use in combat and how many in wildstar?

  TinglySidewinda

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Joined: 1/28/14
Posts: 22

 
OP  1/30/14 5:50:04 PM#18
Originally posted by Fenia
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Originally posted by reeereee
If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.

Soooooooooo True

 

But atleast I can go watch Wildstar being played... I ve played ESO, I  think the hybrid skill system is cool but its limited by the amount of skills you can equip. 

since u have played ESO can u tell us how many skills can u use in combat and how many in wildstar?

ESO

5 SKills + an ult is on your bar.

Wildstar

21+ bar assignments... +2 PATH Skills (see youtube for explanation on paths)  based on what I can see from twitch.

  Cirandra

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Joined: 11/20/13
Posts: 46

1/30/14 5:55:20 PM#19
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Originally posted by Fenia
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Originally posted by reeereee
If this were three days ago I would jump in here and talk about how ESO will do so much better than Wildstar because anyone who wants to play a game like Wildstar is already playing WoW and no game has ever successfully put a dent in WoW.  But now with ESO's naked cash grab I have real doubts about ESO as well, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they both flopped.

Soooooooooo True

 

But atleast I can go watch Wildstar being played... I ve played ESO, I  think the hybrid skill system is cool but its limited by the amount of skills you can equip. 

since u have played ESO can u tell us how many skills can u use in combat and how many in wildstar?

ESO

5 SKills + an ult is on your bar.

Wildstar

21+ bar assignments... +2 PATH Skills (see youtube for explanation on paths)  based on what I can see from twitch.

really i will not even bother to answer..make a research and come back to try again pls.

  smokeybha

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Joined: 3/03/04
Posts: 125

1/30/14 5:57:15 PM#20
Originally posted by cnutemp
Originally posted by smokeybha
That list didn't look biased at all did it... 8)

kinda like your post history... 8)

Ofcourse I'm biased, I like ESO what can I say? I'm not the one making a pro and con list tho now am I? 8)

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