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  SonOfValmar

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1/30/14 4:16:23 PM#21

I am not sure about this being reminiscent of Swtors pre-launch simply because the hype surrounding this game is really nonexistent. I mean, you know this game exists as does many John Q. Public at large, but with the NDA still up and the relative silence surrounding this game it is very hard to gauge what the exact interest is.

 

I believe many people are still in the "day-dream" phase. What I mean by this is the public perception of this game is probably akin to what they played in Skyrim, as they have no real clue how this game really plays due to the NDA. Throw in the type of marketing that has been done to make this game seem like a regular (read: single player) Elder Scrolls experience with the added caveat of playing with friends its no wonder there isn't a true reaction to the game yet.

 

This pre-launch cannot be similar to Swtor's simply because the NDA is keeping people in the dark of what this game is actually offering. The public still has not had to see the reality of the game nor have they had to come to terms with how it matches (or falls short of) their imaginary version. Not only that, Zenimax is doing nothing to really hype up the game unlike what was happening with Bioware/Swtor.

  Reklaw

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1/30/14 4:21:54 PM#22
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by DSWBeef
It seems Zenimax wants huge initial box sales, and not rely on their game to hold people. Thats what im getting from all the preorder CE crap.

Is there a game company which sells games in boxes that doesn't want a hugh initial box sale?  Please list them for me as I am not aware that this was a standard way of thinking or that Zenimax is different in wanting hugh initial box sales.

+1

Also wondering what gamecompany wants to develop a game and not rely on it to become succesfull?

 

  TinglySidewinda

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1/30/14 5:01:07 PM#23

Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.

 

Pump those preorder sales asap!

 

 

ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.

  Calven

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1/30/14 5:06:13 PM#24

I see similarities between the critique of SWTOR's choice to only use humanoid races, thus ruling out many of the iconic ones many was hoping to play as, and the critique of ESO's handling of races :P

But yeah, I don't think it is a nice treatment of your future players to keep the NDA running while luring them in with pre-orders. I've been burned by this several times before.. No wonder I begin to smell something fucky (hehe). I hope there isn't but I've been hurt before...

  TinglySidewinda

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1/30/14 5:29:40 PM#25
Originally posted by Calven

But yeah, I don't think it is a nice treatment of your future players to keep the NDA running while luring them in with pre-orders. I've been burned by this several times before.. No wonder I begin to smell something fucky (hehe). I hope there isn't but I've been hurt before...

Lemme give you a hammer , to NAIL THAT IN THE COFFIN!

 

 

Truth! LOL

  baphamet

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1/30/14 5:35:13 PM#26


Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.

 

Pump those preorder sales asap!

 

 

ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.


and that is based purely on the details of a pre-order lol

this shit is funny to me.

  TinglySidewinda

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1/30/14 5:39:57 PM#27
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.

 

 

Pump those preorder sales asap!

 

 

ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.


 

and that is based purely on the details of a pre-order lol

this shit is funny to me.

 

 

Many past failed mmos, do the same thing... rush the preorders before people figure out whats going on... But my opinion is not purely based on the preorders.

 

 

  spizz

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1/30/14 5:42:28 PM#28
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Anyone else worried? NDA is still up beta testers have only tested the first 20 levels or so. Something seems fishy to me. Anyone else feel the same?

NDA up is not fishy for me, every mmorpg which I was beta testing had their NDA up until it changed to open beta.

  laserit

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1/30/14 5:45:09 PM#29
Originally posted by TinglySidewinda

Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.

 

Pump those preorder sales asap!

 

 

ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.

 

Being the MMORPG addict that I am, I'll definitely be trying both and I'm sure both will be worth the box price. 

Zenimax kicked my dog

  Uhwop

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1/30/14 5:47:28 PM#30
Originally posted by spizz
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Anyone else worried? NDA is still up beta testers have only tested the first 20 levels or so. Something seems fishy to me. Anyone else feel the same?

NDA up is not fishy for me, every mmorpg which I was beta testing had their NDA up until it changed to open beta.

And I'm pretty sure that every one of them didn't start pre orders until they went into open beta or dropped the NDA. 

  reeereee

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1/30/14 5:49:56 PM#31
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.

 

 

Pump those preorder sales asap!

 

 

ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.


 

and that is based purely on the details of a pre-order lol

this shit is funny to me.

I don't recall SWTOR being so desperate to sell boxes that they needed a CE only race (Wouldn't that have been hilarious?  Wookies, only playable for people who bought the CE!)  Which in turn indicates that they are more desperate to sell boxes than even games like SWTOR and AoC were... which is a very very poor indication of quality. 

  laserit

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1/30/14 5:53:01 PM#32
Originally posted by reeereee
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by TinglySidewinda
Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.

 

 

Pump those preorder sales asap!

 

 

ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.


 

and that is based purely on the details of a pre-order lol

this shit is funny to me.

I don't recall SWTOR being so desperate to sell boxes that they needed a CE only race (Wouldn't that have been hilarious?  Wookies, only playable for people who bought the CE!)  Which in turn indicates that they are more desperate to sell boxes than even games like SWTOR and AoC were... which is a very very poor indication of quality. 

If you really believe that Zenimax/Bethesda are desperate, I'd really like to try some 'O' dat chit your smokin

Zenimax kicked my dog

  Tamanous

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1/30/14 5:53:57 PM#33

Not even worrying about it until I have full access to game to know for myself. Way too much energy expended by so many over "guessing".

 

The devs say one thing and people refuse to believe anything they say. There is no way to convince them otherwise. They choose to wallow in a sea of anxiety and I have no idea why.

You stay sassy!

  baphamet

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1/30/14 5:57:54 PM#34


Originally posted by reeereee

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by TinglySidewinda Exactly how I feel about the game... went from pumped to very skeptical.     Pump those preorder sales asap!     ESO VS WILDSTAR... for me its WILDSTAR now.
  and that is based purely on the details of a pre-order lol this shit is funny to me.
I don't recall SWTOR being so desperate to sell boxes that they needed a CE only race (Wouldn't that have been hilarious?  Wookies, only playable for people who bought the CE!)  Which in turn indicates that they are more desperate to sell boxes than even games like SWTOR and AoC were... which is a very very poor indication of quality. 

that is your assumption. i don't agree with that logic, reason being is they are not going to have a problem selling boxes IMO.

are they desperate to make more money? well that's kind of silly because of course they want to sell as many copies as they can, regardless of the quality of their game.

isn't that the point? or do you believe they invested millions of dollars just to make the gamers on mmorpg.com happy? :)

by the way, i agree it is a very very poor indication of quality lol

i know what you are trying to say but you worded it wrong and i got a good laugh out of it :D

  RealmLordsKen

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1/30/14 6:00:17 PM#35

As I see it, public reaction is about the same, but possibly a bit more maturely handled than SWTOR.  That ended up a scream-fest in the forums that ran for weeks.

 

The force was deep for both hater and fanboi.  :-)   Seems a bit tamer now.  Even the "outraged" posts feel tepid.

 

As for will the release go well?  Ask me 3 months after.

 

If I just uttered incomprehensible gibberish, assume that I'm tweaking. It happens.

  Keldien

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1/30/14 6:10:03 PM#36
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Anyone else worried? NDA is still up beta testers have only tested the first 20 levels or so. Something seems fishy to me. Anyone else feel the same?

The NDA part is a little similar, yes.  Only the first 20 levels being tested?  No, testers had complete access to everything (that was in at the time) in TOR for the longest time.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll do an open beta in the month or so leading up to launch.  Or at least a closed beta that lasts longer than a few days.

  h0urg1ass

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1/30/14 6:48:40 PM#37
Originally posted by Theodwulf

I was heavily emotionaly invested in SWToR, so that was really painful. ESO has little appeal to me, so I am not concerned. I'll wait for a couple of months after launch (july-ish) before checking it out and read the reviews from actual people before giving them a dime.

 

 

This is exactly how I feel.  I was deeply invested in SWTOR being awesome.  I was gonna play it until they turned the servers off, which technically I did considering they went from 219 servers to 17 servers within the first year, but then I was horribly shocked by just how bad a 300+ million dollar game could be.

I will also be waiting until a couple months after launch.  I waited a couple months after launch to try GW2 and subsequently never had to purchase the awful game.  If the game is GOOD, then I wont' miss any of the CE stuff.  If the game is bad, then I'll regret having spent extra to get some useless trinkets.

  CazNeerg

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1/30/14 7:41:37 PM#38
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by spizz
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Anyone else worried? NDA is still up beta testers have only tested the first 20 levels or so. Something seems fishy to me. Anyone else feel the same?

NDA up is not fishy for me, every mmorpg which I was beta testing had their NDA up until it changed to open beta.

And I'm pretty sure that every one of them didn't start pre orders until they went into open beta or dropped the NDA. 

You are assuming they wanted to start pre-orders before the NDA dropped.  It is very, very possible that the only reason the pre-orders went live when they did is because Amazon accidentally leaked the Imperial Edition the day before.  Hell, some major retailers don't even have the picture on their site for the game yet, this does not look like a planned launch of the sales.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

  Ghern

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1/30/14 7:43:22 PM#39
Originally posted by CazNeerg
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by spizz
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Anyone else worried? NDA is still up beta testers have only tested the first 20 levels or so. Something seems fishy to me. Anyone else feel the same?

NDA up is not fishy for me, every mmorpg which I was beta testing had their NDA up until it changed to open beta.

And I'm pretty sure that every one of them didn't start pre orders until they went into open beta or dropped the NDA. 

You are assuming they wanted to start pre-orders before the NDA dropped.  It is very, very possible that the only reason the pre-orders went live when they did is because Amazon accidentally leaked the Imperial Edition the day before.  Hell, some major retailers don't even have the picture on their site for the game yet, this does not look like a planned launch of the sales.

Well there is a flat-out guess.

Yeah, let's go with that theory.

  CazNeerg

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1/30/14 7:53:02 PM#40
Originally posted by Ghern

Well there is a flat-out guess.

Yeah, let's go with that theory.

Of course it's a guess.  So is assuming they wanted to launch pre-orders when they did.  Any theory not based on an official statement is, by definition, a guess.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

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