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General Discussion  » Elder Scrolls is dead, the sky is falling, it's over for Bethesda

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1/30/14 10:51:42 AM#41
 I am excited for TES 6 and for Fallout 4.  Its interesting to talk about some of the stuff that they are attempting in this game but it doesn't mean that I am going to just abandon Bethsoft totally.  They still have a long ways to go before they get the EA treatment from me.

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Alea iacta est, beloved Doomsayers.

1/30/14 10:54:38 AM#42
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by asrlohz

That Matt Firor quote is old and outdated. Paul Sage put those rumours to rest. But considering the recent events, it might as well be a cash shop since they are going to be selling the imperial race in their store as an "upgrade" for the standard TES:O edition.


Also, Bethesda won't fall. Nor will Zenimax Media. Maybe ZOS but most likely not. It's the same as the doomsayers said about Mists of Pandaria when it was released. "Oh, this is surely the end of Blizzard". For gods sake no. It's not, these are multi billion companies. They are worth more than you, your father and the previous 19 generations of your family ever were and the future 12 generations of your line will ever be.


Hopefully they won't all be doomsayers. The game will most likely make a profit, but it won't be the game I had hoped for and will most likely not captivate me for very long with this "Purchase Convenience" options that have recently been installed.

But it's still too early to say. Considering the amount of dust this announcement has brought up I think it's plausible that they might retract and redesign their marketing and launch.

This is the Sage interview where they said - the cash shop was misunderstood or badly worded.

There isn't a cash shop in the way we call it cash shop. It's not microtransactions. It's for "services" like a name change request.

It's in this audio interview link starting at about minute 0:12:00 / 1:23:41

Thank you for providing the source :)

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1/30/14 12:01:36 PM#43
At this point I wish they would just STFU about ESO and get on with releasing ES 6 High Rock so the rest of us have something worth playing too and we wouldn't be hanging around the forum for a dead before release game fail.

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1/30/14 12:07:40 PM#44

it is going to top wow on greediness.



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1/30/14 12:51:17 PM#45
Originally posted by nationalcity
Originally posted by Hellidol
Originally posted by SuperNick
Originally posted by Hellidol
Maybe they have issues IRL, or maybe like me have been very disappointed with most of the newer MMO's in the last 8 years. I for one, cant say why i know this, but really believe this game to be a much better product then any mmo from the last 8 years. If all you like is the wow type content encounters then you wont like this, in wow content is hard until one of few things happen, nerfs, learn content or gear improvement. For most people its a combo of both. I for see people that want a encounter to feel new every time will love this game quit a bit, those that just like to log on and stand around having people look at their cool gear will hate this game and try to talk it to the ground. 

I agree, there have been some unfortunate releases in the last few years but as I said, I can't use them as a basis for how everything will be from here on out; that's just a bleak way to walk through life in general.

Should I never watch a movie again because After Earth horrified me?

Should I never buy a car again because my brand new 2014 model broke down a week after I got it?

How about being nice to people? Should I never be nice to anyone again because some people throw niceness back in your face?

I'm personally excited and think it's a real labor of love that isn't constricted by some parent company who wants to push it out the door before it's ready. (Read: a lot of the recent MMOs..)

What you are describing is very different subjects, one is something you want to like to do effortlessly, like being nice, if you are then thats what will happen. Gaming is kind of different in the sense of having to put effort into in-order to feel achievement. Much like a hypothesis if you are wrong all the effort put into it really wears down on the optimism. Also movies, cars, and ( dare i say it) people are generally not enough bad to the point of no return. If I tried boxing for the last 4 years and lost every fight out of 20 fights you might want to quit because it is simply not worth the effort if you feel you will lose before you even have the match. A lot of people feel that way with MMO's I have played: SWG, UO, SB, EVE, WOW, Linage 2, swtor, ect... out of all the mmos in the like 11 years I have only had fun with 3 ....and all three of them don't exist in the same form or at all. 

I'm not sure where you get this a lot of people, I mean people on this forum, people on other forums?


I mean people do realize that people on forums are only a small percentage of the actually mmo population right?

Most people are not on the forums, I mean I feel bad for you that didn't enjoy any of the mmos' that came out recently but your lumping people in the same category as you without any kind of facts except for forums that are notoriously know for whining and complaining......


Now I realize not everyone is gonna like TESO but these doom and gloom posts are getting a little ridiculous....

There will be plenty of people at launch just like every mmo now whether they hold onto them or not is a different story......

I was talking about people in general....and I am not sure you either understood my post or even read the whole thing :P


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1/30/14 3:25:03 PM#46
Over for Bethseda? No. TESo as big a hit as they hope? Jury out. If only they would be upfront. Its a big game, cost a small fortune. The price is $100 or $150 or whatever. Better than $60 and a few $15s. $75 ftom people who stick around 6 months. At the cost of lower sales and less DLC sales; less now that we have had the CE and $20 upgrade option. Wonder what the next DLC candidate will ne when subs drop? And unlike EA the jury may never return. No publiv reports to file.

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1/30/14 3:29:06 PM#47
The drama explosions that happen on this site over stuff like this is what keeps me coming back. Basically anytime a game is getting ready to launch or has been out for less than a month makes for some good reading. 

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1/30/14 3:38:48 PM#48
Originally posted by Skeeter50
Originally posted by Badaboom

Can someone tell me what is ESO offering that is different from GW2?  From what I see it is the same type of skill system and same type of pvp (with no open world pvp) but with no dynamic events.  GW2 did not have a lasting replayability (at least not for me or my friends), so what is ESO offering that's different to keep you playing for years? 


Edit:  Sorry if this is coming off like a troll, but I'm really pessimistic about this latest AAA offering.

I played GW2, and let me say I THINK ESO will do right everything GW2 tried and failed.


The PvP will be the best skill based game of your young lives.

Can you elaborate on this without breaking the NDA?

Although I have no reason to discount your opinion it is just an opinion with nothing to back up the rationale.

Sadly I was accepted into the beta but both weekends I had to work so I have no first hand knowledge to draw from.


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It is easier to Fight for Principles then it is to Live up to them.

1/30/14 3:49:54 PM#49

Who cares what other people think of the game. Why do you gamers on waste your time arguing about such trivial drivel that doesn't really matter in the end anyways. It doesn't effect me that a bunch of people already hate eso, I'm still going to play it. Maybe I will like it, maybe I won't. Who cares.


Does anyone ever talk about anything worthwhile on this site anymore? I'm starting to see why we don't see Loki666 anymore and most of the old vet posters on this site.


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1/30/14 4:02:52 PM#50

What I find hilarious about this entire "controversy" is that it has centered around the Imperial Race instead of the Play Any Race, Any Faction. The second bonus I listed is a much bigger controversy if there was ever to be one simply because it undermines the original design philosophy of the game. The game was built with the 3 Locked Factions at its core, and to see it so easily discarded with a pre-order bonus is amusing to say the least.


Why design your game with such limitations if you could be swayed to give people an avenue to disregard the limitations?


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1/30/14 5:05:20 PM#51

OP, you may have some valid points... but the fact is, as you said, we might not have all the information yet. Your points, if true, are not redeeming in any way.

Don't you think they should have provided all that information before asking for people's money so they can make their own informed decision? I mean.. if I find out there's a way to get all the deluxe edition extras for free just by playing the game, I will be pissed off. I would have wished I'd been able to choose whether to pay or play for it... and I would have played for it.

So, nope, no matter what happens here.. they have made a mistake and mistreated their customers either by nickel and diming, bribing pre-orders or taking people's money before providing all the facts. There's no way out, they've screwed up.

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