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  SBFord

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OP  1/27/14 7:47:14 PM#1

Research company SuperData recently released a list of the top 10 F2P games based on their estimated worldwide revenue last year. Not surprisingly, the top position was occupied by CrossFire, which is said to have brought in a cool $957 million. Depending on how this figure was sourced, is it possible that the MMO shooter from SmileGate and Tencent may actually have surpassed the $1 billion mark?  

Read more of Richard Aihoshi's The Free Zone: 2013's Free to Play Top 10.

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  ste2000

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1/28/14 1:15:43 PM#2

So the big cash cows are the Subscribers with $21 spent each versus $7 spent averagely by the F2P players.

If we take into consideration that most of the F2P games have also a Subscription option (like EQ2 and AoC) and we add the fact that the subscribers not only pay for a monthly subscription but also spend some money on the cash shops, the result is that $21 will grow while that $7 will go down sensibly.

My conclusion is that a successful Subscription MMO (or a hybrid like WoW) will always be more profitable than a pure F2P game by a long shot.

No wonder ESO and Wildstar are trying to get a slice of that market.

 
  syriinx

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1/28/14 1:16:33 PM#3
Of the 10 games listed, only 4 were MMORPGs.  Lineage isnt even available in the west, so corss that off.  One of the three remaining is predominantly korean.  That leaves us with the two biggest f2p money makers from western MMORPGs being WoW and SWtoR, both of which are primarily sub based (one of which is only sub based)
  lizardbones

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1/28/14 1:19:37 PM#4
Originally posted by ste2000

So the big cash cows are the Subscribers with $21 spent each versus $7 spent averagely by the F2P players.

If we take into consideration that most of the F2P games have also a Subscription option (like EQ2 and AoC) and we add the fact that the subscribers not only pay for a monthly subscription but also spend some money on the cash shops, the result is that $21 will grow while that $7 will go down sensibly.

My conclusion is that a successful Subscription game (or a hybrid like WoW) will always be more profitable than a pure F2P game by a long shot.

No wonder ESO and Wildstar are trying to get a slice of that market.

 

Being able to charge the high rollers a high price and the low rollers a low price at the same time, instead of having to wait for the high rollers to finish spending money is dream of everyone with a product to sell.  MMOs are the only thing that really seems able to do it that I've seen.

 

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  User Deleted
1/28/14 1:28:26 PM#5
I think the most interesting tidbit here is that the highest grossing F2P is CrossFire.  I played that FPS a few years back, but never really thought it was anything special.
  bobfish

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1/28/14 1:32:02 PM#6

Trouble is, whilst the subscription + shop model may be the most revenue per head, you do need a minimum number of players to succeed in an MMO. If you dip below the perceived "populated server" number, whether the game is profitable on that number or not, the perception of the players that the game is empty will make them leave.

 

So, I think most western MMOs perhaps have it right, offer the game for free, with a shop, plus the option to subscribe for added benefits.

 

HOWEVER.... this is all about corporations making the most money and is no indication of whether a game is worth playing or not.

  bobfish

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1/28/14 1:33:15 PM#7
Originally posted by nickster29
I think the most interesting tidbit here is that the highest grossing F2P is CrossFire.  I played that FPS a few years back, but never really thought it was anything special.
 

Its a rip on Counter Strike, but at a time when Valve weren't interested in persistent progression and micro transactions another company came along, cloned it, and made a fortune. Once you're on top, it is hard to be knocked off.

  ste2000

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1/28/14 1:35:36 PM#8
Originally posted by lizardbones
Originally posted by ste2000

 

Being able to charge the high rollers a high price and the low rollers a low price at the same time, instead of having to wait for the high rollers to finish spending money is dream of everyone with a product to sell.  MMOs are the only thing that really seems able to do it that I've seen.

 

Yes but my point was that the Subscribers also spend some money on cash shops as well, so these are the people to target if you want to make money.

My conclusion is that in order to make a hugely profitable MMO the developers needs to be able to attract the Subscribers which are the real cash cow of MMO market.

What I am saying is that Developers need to start making games for subscribers rather than for Casual players (which usually are F2P players)

 

PS: I am only talking about the MMO market, I am not including LoL or Crossfire, which are obviously not MMOs and are built to make money as F2P, but MMOs F2P will never be able to make more money than subscription base MMO.

 
  davc123

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1/28/14 1:45:12 PM#9
EVE is f2p?
  CazNeerg

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1/28/14 1:46:48 PM#10
Originally posted by syriinx
Of the 10 games listed, only 4 were MMORPGs.  Lineage isnt even available in the west, so corss that off.  One of the three remaining is predominantly korean.  That leaves us with the two biggest f2p money makers from western MMORPGs being WoW and SWtoR, both of which are primarily sub based (one of which is only sub based)

Not only sub based, if it were it wouldn't be on that chart.  That is WoW's cash shop revenue.  And primarily would be a stretch for TOR, since if the numbers in this chart are accurate, and the claim that TOR has roughly 500k subscribers is accurate, then they actually made more on their cash shop in 2013 than they did on subs.

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  Agent_Joseph

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1/28/14 1:53:13 PM#11

F2P is illusion

,I hope EVE never go to f2p,coz in that case we'll must pay 20+$ monthly for skill training,I am ok with 15$ monthly.

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  catlana

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1/28/14 3:17:46 PM#12
Originally posted by syriinx
Of the 10 games listed, only 4 were MMORPGs.  Lineage isnt even available in the west, so corss that off.  One of the three remaining is predominantly korean.  That leaves us with the two biggest f2p money makers from western MMORPGs being WoW and SWtoR, both of which are primarily sub based (one of which is only sub based)

Yeah, both of these titles are "primarily" sub based. So the revenue from their subs must exceed their f2p revenue. I am not seeing F2P dominating the MMO narket.

 

Edit: EA's revenue from Subs was over $360 million. We do not know how much of that was SWToR. 

  Blacksir

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1/28/14 4:50:12 PM#13
the most stupid, bad article what i read ever!!!
> The numbers for 2013 are in! This month we take a look at the top ten earners in worldwide free-to-play.  <<

TOP 10 F2p ?!?!?! World of Warcraft FREE TO PLAY?!?!?!  what a hell was drink, smoke person what was write & make this top ?!?!

Income value what are set in that top i am curios on what base was made ... from what source ... enyway worst journalistic approach online that I've ever read
  zellmer

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1/28/14 5:02:01 PM#14

Wow, LoL finally provided some proof of their claims and stats?

Oh, they didn't....neat...

  CazNeerg

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1/28/14 5:39:02 PM#15
Originally posted by Blacksir
the most stupid, bad article what i read ever!!!
> The numbers for 2013 are in! This month we take a look at the top ten earners in worldwide free-to-play.  <<

TOP 10 F2p ?!?!?! World of Warcraft FREE TO PLAY?!?!?!  what a hell was drink, smoke person what was write & make this top ?!?!

Income value what are set in that top i am curios on what base was made ... from what source ... enyway worst journalistic approach online that I've ever read

It is the top ten cash shops, measured solely by microtransaction revenue.

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Through power, I gain victory.
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  Torvaldr

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1/28/14 5:59:35 PM#16
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by lizardbones
Originally posted by ste2000

 

Being able to charge the high rollers a high price and the low rollers a low price at the same time, instead of having to wait for the high rollers to finish spending money is dream of everyone with a product to sell.  MMOs are the only thing that really seems able to do it that I've seen.

 

Yes but my point was that the Subscribers also spend some money on cash shops as well, so these are the people to target if you want to make money.

My conclusion is that in order to make a hugely profitable MMO the developers needs to be able to attract the Subscribers which are the real cash cow of MMO market.

What I am saying is that Developers need to start making games for subscribers rather than for Casual players (which usually are F2P players)

 

PS: I am only talking about the MMO market, I am not including LoL or Crossfire, which are obviously not MMOs and are built to make money as F2P, but MMOs F2P will never be able to make more money than subscription base MMO.

 

Your idea would be true if a P2P game could attract the same numbers as F2P gaming. F2P gamers brought in 1/3 of the revenue per person but outnumber the P2P gamers 8x.

Also you're using subscribers to a F2P game (EQ2) to bolster your argument about P2P games. Actually it would likely be subscribers to F2P games who overall pay more revenue. WoW is the only P2P mmo that can compete on this level and it is even matched by the first couple of games on that list.

So in a world where every P2P game is as popular as WoW, you're right. We don't live in that world.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Kbob

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1/29/14 3:23:58 AM#17
Dungeon Fighter is on here? Really? God those eastern countries love their crappy games.
  Sagethorn

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1/29/14 3:57:56 AM#18


Originally posted by CazNeerg


Originally posted by Blacksir the most stupid, bad article what i read ever!!! > The numbers for 2013 are in! This month we take a look at the top ten earners in worldwide free-to-play.  << TOP 10 F2p ?!?!?! World of Warcraft FREE TO PLAY?!?!?!  what a hell was drink, smoke person what was write & make this top ?!?! Income value what are set in that top i am curios on what base was made ... from what source ... enyway worst journalistic approach online that I've ever read
It is the top ten cash shops, measured solely by microtransaction revenue.


 

what hes saying is why is the thread titled "[Column] General: 2013's Free to Play Top 10" when they are discussing cash shops and p2p games

  Precusor

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1/29/14 5:23:21 AM#19
Great list of games.
  Lili_BirchFlower

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1/29/14 10:56:58 AM#20
Where is the 10th game for this list?  I see only 9 accounted for - Lineage is #6 with SWtOR, Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike ONline rounding out the article.  6+3 does NOT equal 10.
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