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General Discussion  » Vanguard Shutting Down July 31, 2014

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  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
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1/24/14 5:45:57 PM#41
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by DamonVile

This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were )

It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.

Yep, this is what happens when people don't put their money where their mouth is. Everyone talks about wanting oldschool, but people don't support that.

It is sad for those who actually did play and pay. It always is.

Or some of us played it for years but moved on to other games. Still sad to see and old friend pass away. No need to be a jerk about it...

How is that being a jerk? You don't support the game. It's not worthwhile for them to keep it open. Yet, we see a lot of posts here how the game is great, game should be made like this, but no one puts their money out to support it. I would say the lamenters who no longer support it are the jerks.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Maquiame

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Joined: 8/21/07
Posts: 669

Power without perception is spiritually useless and of no true value

1/24/14 5:46:29 PM#42

Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me.

Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  someforumguy

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Joined: 1/25/07
Posts: 3517

1/24/14 5:46:52 PM#43

I had some fun times in this game. But at some point I started to realise how update pace slowed down and just superficial fixes were applied.  One of those MMO's with an engine that seems broken to the core.

I won't miss it. But too bad for the people who are still enjoying it :(

  bbethel

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Joined: 3/04/05
Posts: 186

1/24/14 5:53:30 PM#44

Well i guess we all have one less good MMo to play. 

The loss of vanguard is a big blow to us that want a good Hard Mode MMo and there are so few of them left. 

Guess the Easy Mode Generation MMo's is well on its way to dumbing us all down.

  User Deleted
1/24/14 5:58:21 PM#45
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by DamonVile

This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were )

It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.

Yep, this is what happens when people don't put their money where their mouth is. Everyone talks about wanting oldschool, but people don't support that.

It is sad for those who actually did play and pay. It always is.

Or some of us played it for years but moved on to other games. Still sad to see and old friend pass away. No need to be a jerk about it...

How is that being a jerk? You don't support the game. It's not worthwhile for them to keep it open. Yet, we see a lot of posts here how the game is great, game should be made like this, but no one puts their money out to support it. I would say the lamenters who no longer support it are the jerks.

Well shit. Y'all took the words right out of my...fingers? Exactly what I was thinking.

FINALLY. She's being put out of her misery. 

Waiting on more games to be put out of their misery.

Shall I toss out my VG box or hold onto it? Hmm...

  kevjards

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/27/10
Posts: 1453

1/24/14 5:59:18 PM#46
Having spent the best part of 2.5 yrs playing this game I am deeply saddened but not surprised.Time to move on I suppose.I grieve for all the players of this wonderful game.its just a shame it got such a bad launch.hope all the players head off to something new.personally I,m keeping an eye on pantheon.At least brad isn't a quitter and I hope he gets it right this time.a last word from me is I wish all players of vanguard the very best.not to mention all the other games that are closing as well
  Sovrath

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Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17615

1/24/14 6:00:09 PM#47
Originally posted by DamonVile

This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were )

It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.

I was playing it though in a "play a few hours a week here a week there."

 

oh well.

  Margulis

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Joined: 12/14/08
Posts: 1643

1/24/14 6:02:38 PM#48
Sad news - so many players will never get to experience what a real mmo crafting system with depth can be like.  Or other things like non instanced world, diplomacy, ship building and sailing, fishing with real depth, etc.  Sad
  Pratt2112

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Joined: 2/12/12
Posts: 1306

1/24/14 6:06:58 PM#49
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by DamonVile

This is going to be one of those everyone is sad to see it go but no one was actually playing it. ( obviously a few were )

It ran a hell of a lot longer than I ever thought it would.

Yep, this is what happens when people don't put their money where their mouth is. Everyone talks about wanting oldschool, but people don't support that.

It is sad for those who actually did play and pay. It always is.

Well, it's not as simple as that.

People want old-school in a game that's well-funded, well-supported and consistently updated. It's hardly a case of "give us anything. As long as it's old-school, we'll take it". The support still needs to be there.

This is why Eve Online continues to grow and thrive. It's a MMO built on more old-school concepts/ideals, and it continues to do well, because it's a solid game with solid production values (even if controversial at times).

Much as I love Vanguard, and have played it on and off since its launch (well, since Beta, technically), it would be dishonest (IMO) to deny it's been on borrowed time. I (and others) could look past its flaws, because it did a number of other things so well. However, it launched in pretty bad shape and has had an uphill climb ever since - especially in a genre whose players are as unforgiving as MMORPGs.

SOE did jump in and decide to give it more love later in its life, but I think it was too little too late. That needed to happen much earlier on, and with much more conviction and action.

  syriinx

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Joined: 9/24/13
Posts: 996

1/24/14 6:11:35 PM#50
Originally posted by bbethel

Well i guess we all have one less good MMo to play. 

The loss of vanguard is a big blow to us that want a good Hard Mode MMo and there are so few of them left. 

Guess the Easy Mode Generation MMo's is well on its way to dumbing us all down.

Vanguard wasn't remotely hardmode.  It wasnt even forced grouping, it was a pretty solo friendly, not too difficult game.  The difference being there was the option for more challenging content and the dungeons were wonderful.

 

People will blame SoE (which is ridiculous) or blame the players (more fitting, but still not right) but the real blame is on the VG coders from Sigil that created a horrible game based on great ideas.  The performance was always poor, and you have to think the supposed seamless design was a big hindrance here and maybe zoning instead of chunking would have made things smoother.   Also it has the ugliest characters in any AAA mmo.  Just using the character creation with those hideous clothes is enough to put people off.  And the odd looking anthromorphic races that looked like humans with wolf heads thrown on them and no tails.  There were a lot of great things about Vanguard, but it just always felt off.  Still sad to see it go.  

 

SoE is making the right move consolidating.  It still has 4 actively supported MMORPGs (EQ, EQ2, PS2, DCUO) which are all quite different from each other with 5a and 5b on the way.  And yes, I would bet lots of money that eventually Pantheon will be SoE but they cant afford it right now.

  Murugan

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Joined: 4/18/08
Posts: 1572

1/24/14 6:11:48 PM#51
Originally posted by Maquiame

Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me.

Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

SOE has nothing to do with Pantheon, at least now, and hopefully it stays that way.

 

SOE has never done anything positive for the MMORPG's it sticks its greedy mitts into.

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  BarelyEinstein

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Joined: 11/12/07
Posts: 151

Bring back Auto Assault, damnit.

1/24/14 6:17:19 PM#52
Gutted....that's all I can say. Gutted.
  Darknessguy64

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Joined: 8/30/13
Posts: 237

1/24/14 6:18:33 PM#53
Where will the hundreds of players go now?
  Forgrimm

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Joined: 3/24/07
Posts: 616

1/24/14 6:22:34 PM#54
Originally posted by Maquiame

Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me.

Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

SOE has nothing to do with Pantheon.

  Maquiame

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Joined: 8/21/07
Posts: 669

Power without perception is spiritually useless and of no true value

1/24/14 6:23:13 PM#55
Originally posted by Darknessguy64
Where will the hundreds of players go now?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  syriinx

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Joined: 9/24/13
Posts: 996

1/24/14 6:25:32 PM#56
Originally posted by Forgrimm
Originally posted by Maquiame

Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me.

Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

SOE has nothing to do with Pantheon.

They let Brad go and take some devs with him to start the project.  They cant afford to fund it now with EQN in the works, but there is little chance that SoE would at least be the publisher.

  fantasyfreak112

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Posts: 523

1/24/14 6:30:42 PM#57
Originally posted by Maquiame

Personally I think this is being done to shift resources to Pantheon, but that's just me.

Anyways, for those who loved Vanguard, please please come on over and help Pantheon

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen

Wow......

 

Suddenly your incoherent posting makes a lot more sense now.

  captainamazing57

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Joined: 12/14/03
Posts: 93

Drink and be merry.

1/24/14 6:35:09 PM#58

Vanguard was one of my favourite MMOs of all time. It could have been a massive success if SOE was willing to properly resource it.

I stopped playing years ago because it was getting no love from SOE. It had a really small development team. What a shame. SOE executives seem completely clueless at times with their commercial decisions. It's all so short sighted.

  Ozivois

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Posts: 602

1/24/14 6:45:20 PM#59

When this game first came out I got two friends to buy the game too. My video card fried after the first few minutes of trying to play, and the two friends couldn't get more than 1 fps.

After I bought a new and upgraded video card I played sans friends and enjoyed for a little while until a new came out and drew me away...

  Comaf

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I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters.

1/24/14 6:47:42 PM#60
Originally posted by Tibernicuspa

And so passes the last great AAA MMORPG.

 

I'm truly upset. I'll be playing it nightly until it goes down, so many secrets left to find.

Dark Age of Camelot - 2001-2014+

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