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  Otakun

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1/23/14 1:54:13 PM#21
Originally posted by cura
Originally posted by Otakun
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Skipping dialogue in an rpg is like skipping the paintingd in a picasso museum...
 

It's an MMORPG, if you want the single player experience that is your choice but not everyone does. 

if you want mmo withot rpg go play planetside 2.

 

Or I could just play the game the way I want without someone telling me I'm doing it wrong. 

  cnutemp

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1/23/14 1:55:09 PM#22
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That doesn't really make sense. The story is a large aspect of an MMORPG.  If you dont like story you really dont belong in this genre.  What you're doing is basically like going onto a football(soccer) forum and telling everyone that restricting use of your hands is dumb and everyone is is doing it wrong. 

  Sovrath

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1/23/14 2:03:03 PM#23
Originally posted by cnutemp
 

That doesn't really make sense. The story is a large aspect of an MMORPG.  If you dont like story you really dont belong in this genre.  What you're doing is basically like going onto a football(soccer) forum and telling everyone that restricting use of your hands is dumb and everyone is is doing it wrong. 

That's not really true.

You can have an mmo with absolutely no story. Just player interaction.

It's just that recent mmo's have capitalized on the story part.

unless you are thinking about the setting or lore. Which many players don't care about any way.

 

 

  Otakun

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1/23/14 2:03:42 PM#24
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Story is an aspect of an RPG. Character progression and player interaction is the defining aspect to an MMORPG. If story is alls you care about there are plenty of single player ES games already but an MMO is a whole different genre. 

  CazNeerg

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"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." Dark Helmet

1/23/14 2:03:49 PM#25
Originally posted by Otakun 

It's an MMORPG, if you want the single player experience that is your choice but not everyone does. 

It's an MMORPG, if you want a multiplayer experience with no story that is your choice, but not everyone does.

Originally posted by Otakun

Originally posted by Ryowulf

This isn't even about polish. Its using big names to get more people to buy the product.

I completely agree. 

It's not just about using big names, it's also about using people who can actually do quality voice acting.  Look at Skyrim, most of the NPCs in that game are a prime example of how poorly done voice acting is worse than no voice acting at all.

Originally posted by Sovrath

That's not really true.

You can have an mmo with absolutely no story. Just player interaction.

It's just that recent mmo's have capitalized on the story part.

You can have a MMO with no story, this is true.  If you want it to be a MMORPG, it needs a story.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

  EndoRoboto

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1/23/14 2:06:18 PM#26
Being serious? Can't remember the last MMO i played that had a story i gave two shits about. Single player rpgs have great story because you typically see or feel the consequences of your actions. Not some fake instance that nobody but you sees ala MMO.
  Rhazmuz

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They say you are what you eat.. But I dont remember eating a fu**ing legend!

1/23/14 2:07:33 PM#27

To me, the fact that ESO has these big names doing voice overs, doesnt mean "ohh they wasted alot of the budget on fluff, useless fluff", rather it signals that they are going above what is expected, and adding that extra touch to make it a great game. The trolls and haters can moan all they want, this doesnt detract money from other areas, this adds on top of what would have been anyway. 

Haters gonna hate, the rest of us will enjoy a fine game with some really good voice over.

  cnutemp

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1/23/14 2:08:34 PM#28
Originally posted by Otakun
Originally posted by cnutemp
Originally posted by Otakun
Originally posted by cnutemp
Originally posted by Otakun
Originally posted by orbitxo
Originally posted by Otakun
Interesting to know how much money was spent on what I skip just to play the game. 
 

hmm...interesting you call that playing. i presume you dont play TSW...

may i sudgest playing 'Angry birds'?...

<.<

 

I don't play TSW cause it has terribly boring combat. If I only cared about story and graphics then I'd watch a movie, not play a video game. 

That doesn't really make sense. The story is a large aspect of an MMORPG.  If you dont like story you really dont belong in this genre.  What you're doing is basically like going onto a football(soccer) forum and telling everyone that restricting use of your hands is dumb and everyone is is doing it wrong. 

 

Umm .. no, you're the one telling me that I am doing it wrong. It's more like I go to a teams website and say that I am a fan that doesn't go to live games and you are telling me that I am not a real fan cause I don't experience the whole game. 

No, story is a defining aspect of an mmoRPG.  Going to a soccer game live or watching from your home is not a defining aspect of soccer.

Story is an aspect of an RPG. Character progression is the defining aspect to an MMORPG. If story is alls you care about there are plenty of single player ES games already but an MMO is a whole different genre. 

 

Story is an aspect of an RPG, character progression is also a defining aspect of an RPG.

an MMORPG is an RPG with a massive amount of players.  Just because you add the three letters MMO does not mean story is no longer an aspect of the genre.

Also, i don't 'just care about story' not sure why you are putting words in my mouth.

 

  EndoRoboto

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1/23/14 2:08:57 PM#29
I just remembered Asherons Call i gave two shits about but they had great monthly events
  Otakun

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1/23/14 2:10:03 PM#30
Originally posted by Rhazmuz

To me, the fact that ESO has these big names doing voice overs, doesnt mean "ohh they wasted alot of the budget on fluff, useless fluff", rather it signals that they are going above what is expected, and adding that extra touch to make it a great game. The trolls and haters can moan all they want, this doesnt detract money from other areas, this adds on top of what would have been anyway. 

Haters gonna hate, the rest of us will enjoy a fine game with some really good voice over.

More like you waste 60+ dollars on the game when I can just wait a few months and play it for free. 

  Joejc7135

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1/23/14 2:15:22 PM#31
I don't think the issue here is even if there is a story or not....nor is the issue if people skip it or not. The issue is that hiring has been actors probably costs alot of money...money they could use to actually improve the game OR add more actual story content. It betrays a lack of confidence in the game to succeed based on it's gameplay/content alone. Well I guess we can expect a strong start...followed by a mass exodus and transition to F2P/P2W cash shop model. Don't get me wrong, I love voice acting in rpg's...but I would be way more comfortable if they simply sold "voice packs" for people who just have to have it. This way it wouldn't be such a tragic waste of limited resources.
  CazNeerg

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"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." Dark Helmet

1/23/14 2:16:05 PM#32

Originally posted by EndoRoboto
Being serious? Can't remember the last MMO i played that had a story i gave two shits about. Single player rpgs have great story because you typically see or feel the consequences of your actions. Not some fake instance that nobody but you sees ala MMO.

Uh, in a single player game the whole game is an instance that nobody but you sees.  As long as you can see the consequences of your actions within the story, why does it matter whether anyone else does?

Originally posted by Otakun

More like you waste 60+ dollars on the game when I can just wait a few months and play it for free. 

It's only a waste if you don't look at it as an early access fee.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

  ElRenmazuo

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1/23/14 2:22:04 PM#33
ESO to me is already great, the voice acting just makes it greater.  God I cant wait anymore for this game, april cant come soon enough.  I've never felt as engaged in combat in any mmo as I did for ESO.  The combat system is the main reason why im gonna love the PvP and I am mainly a PvE gamer when it comes to mmorpgs.
  EndoRoboto

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1/23/14 2:26:14 PM#34
Sorry but the difference of what youre talking about is present in some older games Asherons Call for one. Shit happened in monthly events that changed the world for everyone playing. Now why has there been no game that does "story" like that in years? Look i know you think you're right but open your brain for two minutes. Recent MMO stories are forgettable period. ESO will be no different.
  doragon86

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1/23/14 2:26:43 PM#35
Not sure how I feel about this. Part of me is getting a deja vu due to SWTOR. 

"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
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  EndoRoboto

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1/23/14 2:27:16 PM#36
I have played it too so i have a slightly informed opinion.
  someforumguy

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1/23/14 2:37:55 PM#37
That is an impressive line up with some very distinctive and awesome voices.
  ElRenmazuo

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1/23/14 2:44:22 PM#38
Originally posted by EndoRoboto
Sorry but the difference of what youre talking about is present in some older games Asherons Call for one. Shit happened in monthly events that changed the world for everyone playing. Now why has there been no game that does "story" like that in years? Look i know you think you're right but open your brain for two minutes. Recent MMO stories are forgettable period. ESO will be no different.

Final Fantasy XIV ARR has a pretty epic story in my opinion and they treat their side stories just as well like the Hildebrand story and its got memorable NPC characters that you become fond of as you progress.  It was the same thing in Final Fantasy 11 for me and in game people were always talking about the story and mentioning the characters in chat.  But it never took away the interaction with other players.

Its really up to the developer on how good they make it.  Your right most recent mmos did have a crappy story but most recent mmos werent Elder Scrolls IP or Final Fantasy which has a huge fanbase because of their stories and lore as well as the gameplay.  Most recent mmos werent developed by high quality devs as zenimax/bethesda and squareenix who really care about their IP. Most devs also have some greedy publisher pushing them unlike zenimax and square.  And most devs care more about what they can put into a cash shop for a free to play or buy to play model than they do for their IPs lore and story.

  cura

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1/23/14 3:17:40 PM#39
Originally posted by Otakun
Originally posted by cura
Originally posted by Otakun
Originally posted by Nemesis7884
Skipping dialogue in an rpg is like skipping the paintingd in a picasso museum...
 

It's an MMORPG, if you want the single player experience that is your choice but not everyone does. 

if you want mmo withot rpg go play planetside 2.

 

Or I could just play the game the way I want without someone telling me I'm doing it wrong. 

If thats all that you meant, sure.

  Ericcompton

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1/23/14 3:42:16 PM#40
Haha, no wonder all the used books I buy look so new, this instant gratification, gotta have it yesterday, I have zero patience, feed me my art in youtube clips generation buys books just to read the last page... guess the same goes for games
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