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  Psion33

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Joined: 8/06/13
Posts: 257

1/05/14 8:09:49 PM#241

Just more sandbox drivel for the sandbox fanbois.

 

No one really cares about this game...its the idea of subbing to the first real major sandbox.

 

Don't give a dog a bone.

  Psion33

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1/05/14 8:10:53 PM#242
Originally posted by Ppiper
Originally posted by Iselin

Considering the length of this thread and similar threads at other ESO discusion sites, this bit from the Forbe's Wikipedia page about their website made me laugh:

 

The website also uses a "contributor model" in which a wide network of "contributors" writes and publishes articles directly on the website. Contributors are paid based on traffic to their Forbes.com pages

 

The pointy-headed dweeb who writes that blog thanks you...say, you don't suppose he's being deliberately edgy and controversial, do you? 

 

Starting to feel like you've been had yet?

pretty fucked up if you ask me.

 

Why, cause you may have added to their pockets? You don't deserve a penny of anyone else's money.

  Iselin

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1/05/14 8:14:30 PM#243
Originally posted by Psion33

Just more sandbox drivel for the sandbox fanbois.

 

No one really cares about this game...its the idea of subbing to the first real major sandbox.

 

Don't give a dog a bone.

I'm thinking you've just woken up from a 2 year coma... welcome back!

 

(PS. ESO is not a sandbox)

  Psion33

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Posts: 257

1/05/14 8:24:21 PM#244
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Psion33

Just more sandbox drivel for the sandbox fanbois.

 

No one really cares about this game...its the idea of subbing to the first real major sandbox.

 

Don't give a dog a bone.

I'm thinking you've just woken up from a 2 year coma... welcome back!

 

(PS. ESO is not a sandbox)

 

I quoted the wrong message. I was reading a post about Camelot Unchained...must have been different browser window LOL.

  PerfArt

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Joined: 2/16/13
Posts: 863

1/05/14 8:54:39 PM#245
Yeah this was a pretty funny write-up. Riding that train, getting those hits. Easy money and horrible journalism. Also: Forbes. April gon be good. /popcorn.gif

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/PerfArt

  Psion33

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Joined: 8/06/13
Posts: 257

1/05/14 9:06:22 PM#246
Originally posted by PerfArt
Yeah this was a pretty funny write-up. Riding that train, getting those hits. Easy money and horrible journalism. Also: Forbes. April gon be good. /popcorn.gif

 

I truly wonder how many F2P gamers will/did get butt hurt for lining that Forbes writer's pocket.

 

Lol. The irony. It's thick.

  User Deleted
1/06/14 1:27:50 AM#247
Originally posted by Toxia

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Thoughts?

 

I agree about the payment model.  Especially when targeting console gamers.  I don't think many would tolerate monthly fees and would rather buy updates as DLC.

This one is definitely going F2P / B2P down the track.  Wildstar might sustain a sub fee as it is targeting the WoW raiding demographic specifically.

  User Deleted
1/06/14 1:54:52 AM#248
Originally posted by Iselin

Considering the length of this thread and similar threads at other ESO discusion sites, this bit from the Forbe's Wikipedia page about their website made me laugh:

 

The website also uses a "contributor model" in which a wide network of "contributors" writes and publishes articles directly on the website. Contributors are paid based on traffic to their Forbes.com pages

 

The pointy-headed dweeb who writes that blog thanks you...say, you don't suppose he's being deliberately edgy and controversial, do you? 

 

Starting to feel like you've been had yet?

Excellent.  Someone whom understands how things work with websites.  

  User Deleted
1/06/14 2:15:52 AM#249
Originally posted by Iselin 

Starting to feel like you've been had yet?

 

If it weren't for Lok poking me to look further into what the blogging system was all about, I'd still be thinking this was a Forbes business article.

 

I find it beyond surprising that Forbes runs a blogging system as a revenue stream.

 

  DanitaKusor

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Joined: 6/17/09
Posts: 536

1/06/14 2:51:58 AM#250
Since it is very likely that I'll be losing my job in March after my company was bought out (and my role is very unlikely to need duplicating) I agree that the subscription fee for ESO is going to be a big stumbling block for me vs. another game that is f2p or b2p (e.g. Guild Wars 2) especially as it is on top of a purchase of a game anyway.  So for me, the article is spot on. P2P is going to probably stop me playing ESO unless it is the most amazing game of all time (which I don't think it is based on previews I've seen so far).

The Enlightened take things Lightly

  Serenes

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Joined: 5/18/10
Posts: 347

1/06/14 2:53:52 AM#251
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Toxia

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Thoughts?

 

I agree about the payment model.  Especially when targeting console gamers.  I don't think many would tolerate monthly fees and would rather buy updates as DLC.

This one is definitely going F2P / B2P down the track.  Wildstar might sustain a sub fee as it is targeting the WoW raiding demographic specifically.

Did I miss where console gamers have been paying $9.99 to play xbox live or did they change that?

  Jomsviking

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Joined: 1/04/14
Posts: 4

1/06/14 9:37:14 AM#252
Originally posted by Rylah
Originally posted by Jomsviking

The writer of the Forbes article is saying that IF TESO's budget is $200 million, it will not sell 10 million copies and so will not be a success from an investor's point of view.

It doesn't need to sell 10 mio copies even in your example. 2 mio copies + 6 months retention is fine, since devs get, depending on their publishers organisation a larger share of subscription fees than on box sales. Also box sales are indeed as bad in revenue as you say, but the digital download editions you buy from the developer/publisher themselves are near 100% revenue.

I don't have data about how big the physical box share is compared to that of the digital editions but I would guess that the latter are on the rise. And then there are the extra expensive and revenue generating collectors editions of course.

So with 2-3 mio copies sold in a mix and average retention rates they should at least cover the cost.

It will only be problematic when retention is horrible like it was in SWTOR.

The cost of actual creation of the disc and box, and packaging  them together is pennies on the dollar. There is little difference in the revenue distribution between digital downloads and boxed copies. Were you aware, for example, that every game designed to run on any Microsoft OS has to pay a royalty fee to Microsoft for every copy sold? There are many hands getting a share of video game sales.

http://kotaku.com/5479698/what-your-60-really-buys

The pie chart shows $27.00 out of $60.00 going to Publisher, which should really be publisher/developer. Another point is that what that shows is the publisher typically gets that portion of the total sale, and then passes on the developer's share to the developer. There is often a very long lag between when the publisher gets the money and then gets around to sending the developer's share on.

Next, no game has ever had 100% retention after launch. Anything over 40% retention a month after launch is considered good. At any rate only a small portion of the sub fee can go towards recovering development costs. By far the greatest portion of sub revenue goes to paying for the servers and ongoing operations costs. Additionally there are ongoing overhead costs. Once again, it is probable that less than 30% of a month's subscription fee can go towards recovering development costs.

The reason so many MMO's now are going to crowd funding to try to get their games developed is not because crowd funding is a better way than through capital investing. It is not. It is actually because investors won't invest in MMOs any more because the perception is that they cannot recover the investment.

When Curt Schilling wanted to start a development studio to create MMO's he couldn't get a single backer in a city with over 200 venture capital firms(Boston). So he sunk the entire $50 million dollar fortune he got from his baseball career and took a $75 million load from the State of Rhode Island on the agreement to move his company to R.I. Curt is now broke, has had to sell his house and baseball memorabilia , the state of R.I. is out $75 million and everyone is suing everyone else.

  User Deleted
1/07/14 4:46:56 PM#253

In the very words of the person who created that article.....

 

1.  He is one of the first wave of journalists to have skipped Printed Media (Lack of experience)

2.  He has learned a lot these last few years at Forbes. (How to swing stocks for insider traders)

3.  His first MMO was probably SWTOR, because that's his only source sited for his prediction.

4.  He's young enough to not know anything about D&D baby boombers and 80s RPG players and what they want in a game.

 

 

Why would anyone listen to a kid whos barley had any experience in the MMO world or even been there for the dawn of it.  to top it all off.....

 

HES PART OF THE NEW GAMER GENERATION, NOT THE OLD SCHOOL, WHICH ESO APPEALS TO AND HAS ALL THE CASH!!!!  

 

I'm sure he'll shine someday, but he doesn't have history of MMO behind him and seems has not even bothered to look up or play any game before world or warcraft and SWTOR.    I wouldn't trust this guy with my finances for atleast 20 more years.

 

 

 *****BELOW IS WHAT IS POSTED FOR THE FORBES WRITERS PROFILE******

 

Paul Tassi Contributor

 

 

I think I'm a part of the first generation of journalists to skip print media entirely, and I've learned a lot these last few years at Forbes. My work has appeared on IGN, The Daily Dot, and most importantly, a segment on The Colbert Report at one point. Feel free to follow me on Twitter or circle me on Google+, write me on Facebook or just email at paultassi(at)gmail(dot)com. I also have written two science fiction books, The Last Exodus and The Exiled Earthborn.

 

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  ENTR0PY

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Joined: 11/25/05
Posts: 64

1/10/14 7:21:06 AM#254
That useless site has no idea what they are talking about. They aren't a gaming site. They are site for gramps buying gold and stocks.
  RizelStar

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1/10/14 10:07:09 AM#255
Originally posted by Serenes
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Toxia

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Thoughts?

 

I agree about the payment model.  Especially when targeting console gamers.  I don't think many would tolerate monthly fees and would rather buy updates as DLC.

This one is definitely going F2P / B2P down the track.  Wildstar might sustain a sub fee as it is targeting the WoW raiding demographic specifically.

Did I miss where console gamers have been paying $9.99 to play xbox live or did they change that?

For live they have 60 dollar year subs.

PSN is 50 dollars a year.

I don't know monthly but that there is a great sub price IMO.

 

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  sportsfan

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Joined: 8/20/12
Posts: 365

1/10/14 11:13:15 AM#256

A new subscription based MMO in the 2014 market ? 

Dead on arrival.

Or better said: dead on arrival + 2 months.

What idiots are behind these decisions ?

  shadow9d9

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Joined: 6/14/06
Posts: 363

1/10/14 12:58:27 PM#257
Originally posted by sportsfan

A new subscription based MMO in the 2014 market ? 

Dead on arrival.

Or better said: dead on arrival + 2 months.

What idiots are behind these decisions ?

It is the better payment model.  The problem is that these games are not built to last.  They are wow clones built to max level in weeks to do 5 dungeons over and over.  It didn't work the last 20 times and won't work going forward.

  Nadia

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1/10/14 1:51:59 PM#258
Originally posted by ENTR0PY
They aren't a gaming site. They are site for gramps buying gold and stocks.

Forbes is not a dedicated gaming site but they've been reporting on gaming for the last 5 years

http://www.forbes.com/sites/games/

 

  gervaise1

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1/10/14 3:01:44 PM#259
Originally posted by Serenes
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Toxia

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

Thoughts?

 

I agree about the payment model.  Especially when targeting console gamers.  I don't think many would tolerate monthly fees and would rather buy updates as DLC.

Did I miss where console gamers have been paying $9.99 to play xbox live or did they change that?

I think you probably missed it yes.

If you haven't checked out how console game charging works essentially it is more like an all access pass than a sub - with free or cheaper games thrown in along with other stuff. Depends on the price level.

Bottomline: On consoles $15 a month will be a lot more for a lot less. And for a single game at that.

Essentially console works like sub based games used to. A charge for the service and then pay for content. That is how EQ1 say worked.

The sub = content approach was only introduced in response to people questioning the validity of the service charge. Server / network charges were falling but the sub wasn't. Rather than ditch the sub games like CoH and WoW trumpted the idea that you wouldn't need to buy xpacs every 6 months - they were trying to get UO and EQ1 players of course. In time, needless to say, paid expansions returned.

A sub is a tough sell on PCs these days - and rightly so imo; get rid of the subscription freeloaders! On consoles I agree that it will be a very tough sell indeed.

  Zzulu

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1/10/14 8:11:19 PM#260
I will not buy the game until it changes the payment system, so I agree with the article somewhat
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