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  MMOVet82

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Joined: 12/30/13
Posts: 33

 
OP  12/30/13 12:09:24 AM#1

Hey all...

I'm a 31 year old guy from the New York area and I used to play WoW heavily. I was a big part of Vanilla and I stuck around for quite a bit of TBC. Loooong story short...I quit this game several years ago and moved on in life but I simply cannot get away from it. Maybe it was how heavily I played for a while but I can't shake this game from my memories or dreams. Bottom line: I want to come back. This is still the most populated MMO out there and I want to see how I fare in today's game. 

I want to be a healer. I've been a tank, a dps, a utility, etc...But I always ultimately wanted to be a healer and raid leader who understands the dynamics of every battle. 

I'm downloading the starter client as we speak. I've done a bit of research tonight but wanted this community's input: For a primary raid healer, what do I want? I understand there are multiple builds but what will give me the most gas for my mileage as a healer? Druid, Priest, Monk? Is a holy priest still the #1 healer in the game followed closely buy a resto druid? Where does a Monk fit into the mix? 

As said, this game used to be my life. I'd like to get back there. I want to get great again and be able to be the main healer for competitive guilds. Where do I go from here? 

Thanks, 

Joe

  Starfired

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Joined: 7/10/12
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12/30/13 12:12:49 AM#2
They all kind of have the ability to fit in any role now, its kinda lame. Like each class has a huge heal, and quick heal, some HoTs, etc. Monk is the only Unique one of the bunch. I would say do Monk or Shaman if you wanna raid heal.

  MMOVet82

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Joined: 12/30/13
Posts: 33

 
OP  12/30/13 12:18:08 AM#3
Originally posted by Starfired
They all kind of have the ability to fit in any role now, its kinda lame. Like each class has a huge heal, and quick heal, some HoTs, etc. Monk is the only Unique one of the bunch. I would say do Monk or Shaman if you wanna raid heal.

Thanks for your reply: Something has to be the cookie cutter favorite though. I would naturally think it would be a Priest. I mean, some class has to have the main raid healer title these days, no? Is it really that balanced now? 

  Soaapy

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Joined: 7/08/11
Posts: 123

12/30/13 12:43:07 AM#4
in my experiences they all seem to be fairly balanced. i'm working on a shammy atm. pretty excited for it. just give something a shot!
  Beoelf21

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Joined: 6/04/10
Posts: 91

12/30/13 12:47:46 AM#5
i have also just come back recently and I just hit 90 on my Shaman, i was told that i need to go heals because they out heal everyone else in the raids...could be over healing factoring in that but im not sure at the moment.

  MMOVet82

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Joined: 12/30/13
Posts: 33

 
OP  12/30/13 12:48:48 AM#6
Originally posted by Soaapy
in my experiences they all seem to be fairly balanced. i'm working on a shammy atm. pretty excited for it. just give something a shot!

And that approach works these days? I guess this will be easier than I thought.

Looking at the class specific talents and the talent trees I think it's pretty obvious that a priest is the way to go for me...

  RedCurry

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Joined: 8/12/13
Posts: 65

12/30/13 1:01:20 AM#7
Good Luck! I'm curious what you think of the game nowadays, not even the original vanilla world exists as you remember (and that's been awhile now).
  Thupli

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Joined: 7/25/11
Posts: 404

12/30/13 1:02:37 AM#8

Coming back will cure you of that feeling, sorry to say. I too miss the feel of my early Warcraft days. After coming back for cataclysm, I realized that what I was looking for could not be acquired in current wow. But even looking for private servers has failed to bring that feeling back.

 

I wish you the best in your pursuit. I hope you can get that feeling back, but dont be afraid to simply enjoy those memories and feelings when they come to you if you can't get back to that place.

  BruceYee

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Joined: 8/04/08
Posts: 240

12/30/13 1:11:16 AM#9

IMO, if you plan on returning and having fun I suggest that you don't expect it to be like it was during vanilla. It's nothing like it was during that time, but that doesn't mean you can't like what it is now.

Find things within the game that you enjoy the most and focus on them - that's what I do.

 

"If you can control a man's thinking, you do not have to worry about his actions. When you determine what a man shall think you do not have to concern yourself about what he will do."-Winston Churchill

  MMOVet82

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Joined: 12/30/13
Posts: 33

 
OP  1/01/14 3:09:34 PM#10

I'm only a few levels in (waiting for my account upgrade to leave the queue) and of course I can't help but notice just how different everything is. Everything is fast tracked, streamlined, and much easier in general. What I'm surprised to see is how the higher level dungeons contain so little in the way of trash mobs and are just a few corridors filled with bosses. I can't say I'm shocked: This was what the masses were screaming for back when I was playing TBC.

I definitely know this isn't going to be like my early days on Vanilla back in '06. So much time has passed and so much has changed. The landscape and world maps alone are so drastically different. 

I rolled a Troll Priest. I like how the racials mix with the talents of a priest and think I could develop a really good healer out of this. I'll play...somewhat casually, and see where it takes me. It's definitely not the good ol' days anymore, though. They practically spoon feed quest items to you now. 

  Dreamo84

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1/05/14 8:37:53 AM#11
It has been streamlined a lot but you have tot remember the game is very old and top heavy now. Any new or returning players generally don't want to have a lonely leveling experience for too long.

  LittleBoot

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Joined: 11/08/13
Posts: 336

1/05/14 8:55:58 AM#12
Originally posted by MMOVet82

Hey all...

I'm a 31 year old guy from the New York area and I used to play WoW heavily. I was a big part of Vanilla and I stuck around for quite a bit of TBC. Loooong story short...I quit this game several years ago and moved on in life but I simply cannot get away from it. Maybe it was how heavily I played for a while but I can't shake this game from my memories or dreams. Bottom line: I want to come back. This is still the most populated MMO out there and I want to see how I fare in today's game. 

I want to be a healer. I've been a tank, a dps, a utility, etc...But I always ultimately wanted to be a healer and raid leader who understands the dynamics of every battle. 

I'm downloading the starter client as we speak. I've done a bit of research tonight but wanted this community's input: For a primary raid healer, what do I want? I understand there are multiple builds but what will give me the most gas for my mileage as a healer? Druid, Priest, Monk? Is a holy priest still the #1 healer in the game followed closely buy a resto druid? Where does a Monk fit into the mix? 

As said, this game used to be my life. I'd like to get back there. I want to get great again and be able to be the main healer for competitive guilds. Where do I go from here? 

Thanks, 

Joe

Although I didn't play as heavily as you I had some great times in this game in 2005/6.  I fear that going back to the game now will not be the same, especially with the vanilla experience having been changed so fundamentally.  

However, reading this reminded me how much fun I used to have and I've decided to download the free trial and give it a shot again.  

  Gravarg

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1/05/14 9:15:54 AM#13

It depends on what you want to heal like.  I'm an avid healer or tanker myself.  Although pretty much everyone but monk heals the same, each have their on strengths and weaknesses.  

 

Druid is my favorite healer.  You can glyph your mushroom to aoe heal on the ground, and it lasts the longest of any of the "smart" heals, 5 minutes.  As a Druid, to get the maximum from healling, you'll be keeping a HoT on the tank (lifebloom) and then using rejuvenation and Regrowth (if you have it glyphed) or Healing Touch/Nourish to keep everyone else up.  Druid is the HoT healer, great for keeping people topped off.  Other than Wild Growth and Tranquility, there isn't much in the way of AoE healing however.  Tranquility is one of the best heals in the game imho though.

 

Monk is probably my least favorite healer.  You will be very busy as a Mistweaver.  I really have no clue how it works 100%, but you can attack and the game will choose who to heal for you, and then switch to pure healing when needed by channeling Soothing Mists and using your other mist spells which you can cast instantly while channeling.  Monk is another good HoT healer, I just think Druid is simpler and easier to manage.  However, in 10mans the extra dps you get from Mistweaver is a bonus.

 

Paladin is a good main tank healer.  With Beacon of Hope, any heal you use on other players will heal the Tank as well, which is good. Lay on Hands has saved the main tank or someone that's about to die more times than I can count.  I don't really play my paladin holy as much as protection, because I think they make a better tank, but they do fairly well on the healing charts.

 

Priest has two ways to heal.  Priest does good with mana, since they have a few abilities that help gain mana back, but it's nothing like Shaman. Holy is your typical healer that everyone knows since the begining of MMOs.  It's one of the easiest to play.  Discipline is the FotM healer right now.  With Atonement you can heal people like monk, but from range, just by attacking.  Also Discipline can save a lot of people's lives by using their shielding techniques.  They have the most powerful shields in the game (except for paladin's hand which has no cap, only time limit hehe).  Disc priest is popular with 10man because they can add a lot of dps to the group while healing.  It's not uncommon for a good Disc priest to top the healing and dps charts at the same time.

 

Shaman has the best mana management imho.  Druid is good with mana as well, but Shaman can regain mana quickly, and restore mana to others in the entire party.  Shaman also makes a great tank healer, since their heals increase the tanks overall health points.  I've seen tanks with over 1.4 million hp tanks to my Shaman healing.  Shaman is probably my second favorite healer, behind druid.  They're pretty straight forward, while also having a lot of utility with their totems and other abilities.

 

All the Healing classes do a great job at it, so it really just comes down to a matter of preference.  I guess I'm more of a "heal the earth" kind of guy, so I like Druid and Shaman hehe.

 

Edit: sorry for the long post, in short, just pick which healer you want to play hehe.

  Volgore

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1/05/14 3:52:31 PM#14
Originally posted by Gravarg
*snip

This is some awesome and valueable info for everyone who wants to return as a healer.

I've been playing healing classes only for many years in WoW, but eventually quit the game because i was beyond sick of the constant imbalances among healers and huge, borderline classbreaking nerfs that hit healing abilities while other healspeccs been left way overpowered and untouched for patches and patches to come.

The game never handled classbalance very well, even to an extend where one could assume it was on purpose. But playing several healers, this constant juggling hit me left and right literally with whatever char i logged in.

Good to see that all healers are about equal in both fun and value to the group/raid nowadays.

  simsalabim77

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1/05/14 3:57:11 PM#15
Unless you're doing heroic progression, your choice of healer won't matter. Pick whichever one you find the most entertaining. Also, the expansion isn't too far off so picking a healer based on which one is the strongest this tier is probably a mistake as it can and probably will change drastically come WoD. 
  User Deleted
1/05/14 4:00:17 PM#16
Originally posted by MMOVet82

Hey all...

I'm a 31 year old guy from the New York area and I used to play WoW heavily. I was a big part of Vanilla and I stuck around for quite a bit of TBC. Loooong story short...I quit this game several years ago and moved on in life but I simply cannot get away from it. Maybe it was how heavily I played for a while but I can't shake this game from my memories or dreams. Bottom line: I want to come back. This is still the most populated MMO out there and I want to see how I fare in today's game. 

I want to be a healer. I've been a tank, a dps, a utility, etc...But I always ultimately wanted to be a healer and raid leader who understands the dynamics of every battle. 

I'm downloading the starter client as we speak. I've done a bit of research tonight but wanted this community's input: For a primary raid healer, what do I want? I understand there are multiple builds but what will give me the most gas for my mileage as a healer? Druid, Priest, Monk? Is a holy priest still the #1 healer in the game followed closely buy a resto druid? Where does a Monk fit into the mix? 

As said, this game used to be my life. I'd like to get back there. I want to get great again and be able to be the main healer for competitive guilds. Where do I go from here? 

Thanks, 

Joe

Just understand that the game has been largely simplified now, to the point that builds don't matter too much anymore.  That's not always a bad thing, especially since you can find a build that has a fun playstyle for you without having to use something else because it's "more effective." 

It's still a really big design change compared to Vanilla and TBC, so worth mentioning.

  simsalabim77

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1/05/14 4:15:45 PM#17
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by MMOVet82

Hey all...

I'm a 31 year old guy from the New York area and I used to play WoW heavily. I was a big part of Vanilla and I stuck around for quite a bit of TBC. Loooong story short...I quit this game several years ago and moved on in life but I simply cannot get away from it. Maybe it was how heavily I played for a while but I can't shake this game from my memories or dreams. Bottom line: I want to come back. This is still the most populated MMO out there and I want to see how I fare in today's game. 

I want to be a healer. I've been a tank, a dps, a utility, etc...But I always ultimately wanted to be a healer and raid leader who understands the dynamics of every battle. 

I'm downloading the starter client as we speak. I've done a bit of research tonight but wanted this community's input: For a primary raid healer, what do I want? I understand there are multiple builds but what will give me the most gas for my mileage as a healer? Druid, Priest, Monk? Is a holy priest still the #1 healer in the game followed closely buy a resto druid? Where does a Monk fit into the mix? 

As said, this game used to be my life. I'd like to get back there. I want to get great again and be able to be the main healer for competitive guilds. Where do I go from here? 

Thanks, 

Joe

Just understand that the game has been largely simplified now, to the point that builds don't matter too much anymore.  That's not always a bad thing, especially since you can find a build that has a fun playstyle for you without having to use something else because it's "more effective." 

It's still a really big design change compared to Vanilla and TBC, so worth mentioning.

That's sort of a fallacy if you're talking about talent trees as there wasn't really any choice or depth in those either. Maybe a point or three to put where you wanted, but as a raider, there was basically one viable spec. 

  monochrome19

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1/05/14 4:28:14 PM#18

I would recommend a Druid because they never oom and they heal like jesus but they have like 100 buttons so you could easily become overwhelmed.

Second: Pally, same as a druid but their heals are HUGE.

I have a priest and raid healing it meh (Holy)... we oom easily and I dont feel like theres much bang in our heals. I'm more of a PvPer though. You cant kill a Dpriest in PvP 1v1 no matter how hard you try.

  muffins89

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1/05/14 7:16:12 PM#19
Originally posted by MMOVet82
Originally posted by Starfired
They all kind of have the ability to fit in any role now, its kinda lame. Like each class has a huge heal, and quick heal, some HoTs, etc. Monk is the only Unique one of the bunch. I would say do Monk or Shaman if you wanna raid heal.

Thanks for your reply: Something has to be the cookie cutter favorite though. I would naturally think it would be a Priest. I mean, some class has to have the main raid healer title these days, no? Is it really that balanced now? 

wow's idea of balancing is giving everyone the same spells with different skins. 

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  simsalabim77

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1/05/14 8:05:49 PM#20
Originally posted by muffins89
Originally posted by MMOVet82
Originally posted by Starfired
They all kind of have the ability to fit in any role now, its kinda lame. Like each class has a huge heal, and quick heal, some HoTs, etc. Monk is the only Unique one of the bunch. I would say do Monk or Shaman if you wanna raid heal.

Thanks for your reply: Something has to be the cookie cutter favorite though. I would naturally think it would be a Priest. I mean, some class has to have the main raid healer title these days, no? Is it really that balanced now? 

wow's idea of balancing is giving everyone the same spells with different skins. 

 

That's blatantly false. People are so disillusioned with this game and "what it did to the genre" that they'll readily make things up to suit that viewpoint. 

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