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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes 

General Discussion  » Poll - What if Vanguard actually released properly in 2014 - would you play it?

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OP  12/11/13 11:51:11 AM#1

It's an alternate universe far far away and the horrible launch and quick death of Vanguard never happened......  Actually it never even released and is coming out this upcoming year.......   It is in a finished state, not rushed, not full of bugs, and has a large development team that will stay with the game.........  and the mmo community in this day and age is wanting more and more something different than the generic themepark clones we have been fed for 10 years.........


Seriously folks, would this game released properly in this day and age not get you excited?  I've played so many mmo's where people will talk about things that they wish someone would make in an mmo and I've thought how Vanguard already has that.  Yeah in some aspects it was still a theme park but anyone who really played the game knows it was way more than just that.

Update - this is a list of current features Vanguard already has, there seemed to be some confusion over this:

2.  No instancing at all in the giant game world

3.  Open world housing (also non instanced)

4.  Ship building and sailing

5.  Fishing that is actually interactive and deep like the crafting system

6.  Group focused content

7.  Diplomacy system

8.  Harvesting system that is interactive and incorporates group harvesting

9.  Challenging content, corpse runs, etc.

10.  Tons of class and race options.

11.  Giant world that creates a sense of wonder and immersion.

12.  Over 120 non instanced dungeons

Would you be excited and play it if a properly developed Vanguard released today?

Meh, maybe
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12/11/13 11:59:40 AM#2
of course. My only problem with that game is the rigid character animations (slow combat), models, and the god awful stuttering between chunks. I still think it's one of the better mmos out there for exploration and difficulty.

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12/11/13 12:08:28 PM#3
Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

RIP City of Heroes. One of my favorite MMO's.


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12/11/13 12:17:23 PM#4
No proper PVP model, so no

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12/11/13 12:18:15 PM#5
I would play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again if they updated the games and re-released them.

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12/11/13 12:26:10 PM#6
Probably for a bit. But I rather play a sandbox but I'd give it a chance just because I like the genre.

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12/11/13 12:27:23 PM#7
Hell yea, in a heartbeat, id actually be playing it now if my guild had not moved on to other games.


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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

12/11/13 12:38:49 PM#8
I tried to play Vanguard but it kept crashing my PC.  Let me change your scenario a bit.  What if COMPUTERS actually released properly and were not pieces of crap secretary masterbaitting machines but were all AFFORDABLE god-like gamer PC's that worked?  Yeah, have a go at that then maybe I could play shit with decent graphics and laggy games like Vanguard as well.

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12/11/13 12:39:05 PM#9
Originally posted by Ice-Queen
I would play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again if they updated the games and re-released them.

I rather play games like UO with different lore and world.  I am burned out on it.


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12/11/13 12:46:49 PM#10

You mean VG with a graphics update because all that other stuff already exists in the game.

Maybe for a bit, but there is a lot about the game that is lacking that would need improvement. The open areas have little of interest in them. Wide open spaces are nice but they need to actually have interesting stuff between points that makes travel and exploration more interesting.

The diplomacy system is really interesting but the TCG implementation sucks. It's the same with LoN in EQ2 - immersion breaking and weird.

There is a good core potential to a game designed like VG, but it would need fleshed out a lot more to make it as a AAA release today.

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12/11/13 12:48:20 PM#11
Yup.. It's what I'm playing at the moment anyways.

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12/11/13 12:51:17 PM#12
If the game would run smoothly , yes.  I remember getting stuck in a rock within my first half hour in the game.  Ive debated about returning many times but always find reasons not to.  

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12/11/13 12:54:19 PM#13
Once quests became useless compared to just grinding in a dungeon to level and gain equipment, I was done with the game.  Releasing in 2014 wouldn't change the grind.

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12/11/13 12:54:31 PM#14
Originally posted by olepi
Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

Not so much the graphics.... But the annimations where the killer for me, if they added gw2 annimations... I would be tempted.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)


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12/11/13 1:02:13 PM#15

If the game had any kind of community I'd probably give it a shot (Never have I played the game)

But from what I hear, the features that is has really attracts me, but the lack of population makes me not play the game.


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12/11/13 1:04:21 PM#16
The philosophy behind content creation in the game was pretty solid, but the implementation was a miss.  If they could release it today as a proper, bug-free, and smoothly functioning game, sure.  Unfortunately players in this genre seem to have a very low tolerance for a miss and I think that ship has long since sailed.  Too bad too as there was tremendous potential from that title.

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12/11/13 1:05:13 PM#17

The game they were beginning to develop in beta? Sure I'd play it; however, they wowified the game 1-2 weeks before release, which made it a game I wouldn't pee on if it was on fire.

Ultimately they chose a very poor engine from the start so it really had no chance no matter how much they threw at it but it could have been a lot better then the dung heap it's become these days. Brad McQuaid even came back in an attempt to fix it but quickly found out that both his babies were beyond fixing, inevitably getting fired over it.

Pathfinder may offer a true Vanguard experience but you'd be a fool to hold your breath.


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12/11/13 1:33:48 PM#18
Originally posted by olepi
Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

 ^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.

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12/11/13 1:39:02 PM#19
Many years I have played most of MMOs that I can get to, released, beta or alpha. Vanguard still is the best Themepark mmo in my memory, maybe I will still playing it of was properly managed.

Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration

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12/11/13 1:39:23 PM#20
If the graphics were updated, and the animations were smooth and responsive, then yes.
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