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  Classicstar

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OP  12/11/13 7:08:00 AM#1

This maybe for me the catalyst to switch from win7 to 8.2.

Imust say MS listend to critics and dare change it. Prolly has to do with bad sells win8 but still...

http://www.geek.com/microsoft/start-menu-to-return-in-windows-8-2-codenamed-threshold-1579294/

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  Muke

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12/11/13 7:15:19 AM#2

Microsoft: "PC's are being phased out; their time is gone; tablets are the future now, no more PC's."

How the heck do you play thos egames and MMO's on a tablet? Those flash games perhaps, but not the good ones.

Boy did they fall flat on their face with this tablet OS for PC's.

 

 

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  zymurgeist

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12/11/13 7:16:39 AM#3
About bloody time. Did no one ever explain to them why control interfaces are platform specific? It's like putting a brake pedal on a helicopter.

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  Caldrin

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12/11/13 7:24:53 AM#4

about time.. that was the biggest mistake they made with windows 8..

 

Desktop computers did not need an interface overhall.. they way the windows UI has worked since 95 has been basically perfect.. sure make it look better and streamline it.. but force all desktop users to use a tablet OS.. bad move..

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  lizardbones

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12/11/13 7:26:23 AM#5


Originally posted by Muke
Microsoft: "PC's are being phased out; their time is gone; tablets are the future now, no more PC's."

How the heck do you play thos egames and MMO's on a tablet? Those flash games perhaps, but not the good ones.

Boy did they fall flat on their face with this tablet OS for PC's.

 

 




I really wonder about that decision. I would love to see an insider's view on why they did that. Was it a disconnect between the marketing, design and development teams? Did somebody high up in the organization just push the tablet interface?

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  cura

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12/11/13 7:33:28 AM#6
Originally posted by Muke

Microsoft: "PC's are being phased out; their time is gone; tablets are the future now, no more PC's."

How the heck do you play thos egames and MMO's on a tablet? Those flash games perhaps, but not the good ones.

Boy did they fall flat on their face with this tablet OS for PC's.

 

 

They want you to move to their console so they can milk you more.

  Beastn

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12/11/13 7:42:34 AM#7
I just bought a new gaming rig and un selected Windows 8.1 and " down graded" my os to Windows 7.... best choice ever.. Windows 8 blows
  CalmOceans

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12/11/13 7:43:17 AM#8
I'm not going to upgrade just for a start menu I already have in Windows 7.
  zevian

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12/11/13 7:50:20 AM#9

Meh,   at this point i could care less about the start menu,  ive been using windows 8 since it came out and have adjusted to typing for things I want,   or having a folder on my desktop for games/apps.

 

I dont use the metro interface for anything.

 

 

I guess this will be good for all the troglodytes who cant be bothered to learn something new though.

  Lobotomist

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12/11/13 7:52:36 AM#10

I got new PC year ago. Acidentally it was in same time Win8 was launching and I got the deal for 15$ so i installed it.

So yes, the Metro interface sucked. But it took me 1 minute to install Start8 , app that basically removes Win8 interface and turns it into Win7 interface.

 

So how is Win8 (but with normal interface)

Basically its much faster version of win8 with many improved functions. Better file explorer , file indexing , built in firewall , better task manager , better memory indexing , and freeze protection.

And it boots in (i measured it) 6 seconds!

Can win7 do that ?

 

 

So yes sad decision for interface (metro) but it was 1 minute fix. Otherwise much better and faster system.

  thunderC

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12/11/13 7:55:27 AM#11
I love windows 8 and the tile app setup, at first it was horrible but now that i am use to it i would never go back to desktop. In my opinion once you actually adjust everything is just smoother and faster working from the start /app screen/
  Muke

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12/11/13 7:59:43 AM#12
Originally posted by cura
Originally posted by Muke

Microsoft: "PC's are being phased out; their time is gone; tablets are the future now, no more PC's."

How the heck do you play thos egames and MMO's on a tablet? Those flash games perhaps, but not the good ones.

Boy did they fall flat on their face with this tablet OS for PC's.

 

 

They want you to move to their console so they can milk you more.

I play games like EVE Online; don't see that playing myself on a tablet, wonder if it is even possible/playable. Consoles are a big NO for me anyways so they will never earn $$$ from me for that lol.

That said; all the IT ppl at my company downgraded the new W8 OS on the new machines to a W7 and in some cases: Linux for business use.

Personally I like the old feel of WIndows, if they can make it much mroe stable and much faster; that would be enough.

Curious how this version will do. Classic Desktop is a big plus, wonder if they implement everything else that is not ported to W8 from 7.

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  collekt

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12/11/13 8:02:21 AM#13
Originally posted by thunderC
I love windows 8 and the tile app setup, at first it was horrible but now that i am use to it i would never go back to desktop. In my opinion once you actually adjust everything is just smoother and faster working from the start /app screen/

I'd have to disagree. Maybe for a light user or the common PC user, but I have given win8 enough time to get fully used to the interface and I still can't stand it. For people who are power users and/or know what they're doing, the old desktop interface is SO much better and faster. I loathe that retarded app-like interface more than anything.

  Gdemami

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12/11/13 8:09:04 AM#14


Originally posted by thunderC

I love windows 8 and the tile app setup, at first it was horrible but now that i am use to it i would never go back to desktop. In my opinion once you actually adjust everything is just smoother and faster working from the start /app screen/


If you are not using your PC for office work, I guess you are right. For any office purposes tho, it is a nightmare and without specialized app that brings your desktop back, unusable.


The intentions with Win8 are logical, pulling it off tho, is entirely different matter. Win8 were released too much ahead of time, the world is not ready yet for the concept.

  Muke

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12/11/13 8:12:22 AM#15
Originally posted by CalmOceans
I'm not going to upgrade just for a start menu I already have in Windows 7.

Windows 7 (and Linux as 2nd) is running perfectly atm, but W8, would be a legal option when they phase out W7 support.

But by then MAYBE they have learned their lesson and made W8 viable or maybe a W9.

 

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  syntax42

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12/11/13 9:29:27 AM#16
Originally posted by zymurgeist
About bloody time. Did no one ever explain to them why control interfaces are platform specific? It's like putting a brake pedal on a helicopter.

Helicopters have pedals for yaw control.  I think a more accurate analogy would be like putting helicopter yaw control pedals on a car and moving the throttle and brake to hand controls.  

 

Analogies aside, I think the 2015 projected release for a start menu is ridiculous.  Programs like Classic Shell provide a start menu for free right now.  Why does it take over a year for one of the largest companies in the world to make some computer code that already exists?  Personally, I don't care if or when they release it.  I am happy with Windows 8 and my third-party start menu.

  Uhwop

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12/11/13 9:36:10 AM#17

Little misleading for anyone who doesn't actually read the article.

 

Windows ISN'T going back to classic desktop, they're giving you the ability to boot directly to standard desktop instead of having to load the windows 8 desktop first, and possibly the ability to load apps from the standard desktop. 

 

The ability to run windows in the standard desktop was always there, you just had to do it after booting into the windows 8 version first. 

People seem to be confused by this. 

  tasburath

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12/11/13 10:02:14 AM#18
Originally posted by CalmOceans
I'm not going to upgrade just for a start menu I already have in Windows 7.

You might want to look at the technical improvements in the OS under the hood before decide that.

 

  Ridelynn

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12/11/13 10:19:20 AM#19

The Start menu is a lie.

Wasn't that supposed to be the big selling point of Windows 8.1?

Anyway - it doesn't really matter. If you couldn't get used to Metro, or you couldn't be bothered to download Start8/ClassicShell, the fact that Windows is re-enabling the old start menu won't be enough to get you to switch -- because it's always been an option the entire time.

People are avoiding Windows 8 and it gets all this bad press not because it's a bad OS, it's because they fear change. There are good reasons to dislike change, particularly when it is a change for the worse or when it's just change for the sake of change and severely impacts productivity - and while you could make good cases for either of those, I won't make that arguement because there are equally valid counterarguments that have been hashed out thousands of times by now.

That, and if Windows XP/Vista/7/95/3.11 still does what you need it to do, really then, why should you pay to upgrade? That's the real and practical reason for most people.

Windows 8 already has a stigma - must like Vista, and ME. No patch will be able to overcome that now. If they want to move more Windows SKUs, they need to go ahead and call it Windows 9 -- which is exactly what they did with Windows 7.

  GroovyFlower

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12/11/13 10:34:40 AM#20

Ok so win8 was perfect OS for desktop pc and all who did not switch where dumb (me included it seems) not to go win 8 which it seems go in(first time i hear this) 6 sec desktop is in 1 min win7 with third party shell and is completely build around desktop not tablets/phones and touchscreens. Damn i could have had a superior OS win8 a year ago damn why oh why i did not switch.

 

No win8.1 was never a selling point for start comeback. but the TASKBAR was MS always said for win8.1 start won't comeback.

 

As soon games demand dx11.2 and my win7 perform poorly(which do not) ill maybe concider switching. But i prolly wait for win9 not sure yet im already on dx11.2 videocard amd 290x

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