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  SBFord

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OP  11/15/13 5:48:24 PM#1

Diablo is a huge franchise for Blizzard Entertainment with ardent fans following the game for almost two decades. In Diablo Redux, we take a look back at the history of the IP. Join us on Memory Lane and then leave your own remembrances in the comments.

Diablo changed things for RPG fans like me. It brought to life a frightening world full of atmosphere and danger. The game's graphics were incredible, its music instantly branded itself on your brain, and best of all, you and your friends could experience it simultaneously. You'd expect this dark vision to have been built inside an abandoned castle or hidden bunker, but in fact, Diablo took form in the sunny clime of the Bay Area peninsula. It was the collective brainchild of three close friends: David Brevik and brothers Erich and Max Schaefer (Fun fact: the Schaefers were born in my home state of New Mexico.) The three formed a company called Condor Inc., within which they employed their distinctive garage-band approach to make games like Justice League Task Force, and NFL Quarterback Club '95 and '96.

Read more of Neilie Johnson's Diablo Redux.

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  SBFord

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OP  11/16/13 8:14:31 AM#2

Man...just looking at those piles of gold, the remembrance of my gear spewing all over a dungeon if I died and hysterically searching for a guildy to help me retrieve it after spending all that gold on alternate equipment and...failing. 

Good times. :D

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  sketocafe

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11/16/13 8:46:32 AM#3
I personally find the new battlenet to be simply awful. I spent as much time socializing on battlenet as I did playing starcraft using it, and they ditch it for some kind of ladders only anti-chat "upgrade" because of reasons.
  jbombard

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11/16/13 9:03:16 AM#4
The first 2 were great, but with number 3 they basically took the deep skill trees replaced them with superficial toggles, the took the awesome loot formula that was working since day one and replaced with a money grab AH.  They then went on to fix the loot problem on consoles yet are making the PC crowd wait to get it in the expack, just sad.  Also note a great many of those first day sales were free with a WoW 1 year subscription.  It was a game that was acclaimed by the critics yet rejected by much of the loyal diablo fan base that stuck with Blizzard from D1.  They look to be doing a nice expack, but fool me twice and all that, I'll just wait and see this time.
  Ozmodan

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11/16/13 9:26:28 AM#5
Originally posted by jbombard
The first 2 were great, but with number 3 they basically took the deep skill trees replaced them with superficial toggles, the took the awesome loot formula that was working since day one and replaced with a money grab AH.  They then went on to fix the loot problem on consoles yet are making the PC crowd wait to get it in the expack, just sad.  Also note a great many of those first day sales were free with a WoW 1 year subscription.  It was a game that was acclaimed by the critics yet rejected by much of the loyal diablo fan base that stuck with Blizzard from D1.  They look to be doing a nice expack, but fool me twice and all that, I'll just wait and see this time.

Yep, as will a lot of us.

  BTrayaL

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11/16/13 9:49:29 AM#6
I have played D1 and D2 for.. oh, god knows how many long hours. Played through D3 once and that was it..

  Anireth

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11/16/13 10:01:44 AM#7

I actually played Diablo II again just a year or so before Diablo III was released. But i couldn't even bear to play through the beta until some of my friends got access, too. And none of us bought it, we simply couldn't justify spending €50+ on this when there are games like Torchlight 2 etc. that cost €20 and less. Heck, the 4-pack costs what one copy of D3 costs, and thats without any sale - something D3 will never see.

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  Politicaldad

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11/16/13 10:02:33 AM#8

D1 was great for my self and hometown friends .... until we started 'pranking' each other in the harder areas...

Picture this .... You and your friends in modem mode happily delving into the beasts lair .... One of you has a full pack and needs to go top\side to sell ... pop out a townport and go up , sell your items and then let your buddies know your ready to come back.... One friend says to the third ... "Hey watch this" ... He opens a return portal ... "inside the area with the Boss Mob" and says "Okay, Come on down" ... **snicker, snicker**.... Sploosh ... cash and gear everywhere.... GOOD times  :)  ..... usually followed by swear words and Hours later ... "yay, yay.... this time it's SAFE" ... **snicker,snicker**

 

  franko79

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11/16/13 1:04:26 PM#9
Diablo 1 - great game, Diablo 2 - boring like hell, Diablo 3 - good game, Diablo 3 + Ex will be great game again.
  TheHavok

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11/16/13 2:47:10 PM#10
Originally posted by franko79
Diablo 1 - great game, Diablo 2 - boring like hell, Diablo 3 - good game, Diablo 3 + Ex will be great game again.

Interesting you state that about D1 and D2. I have one other friend that has the same opinion, despite it being a generally unpopular opinion. So, that makes me wonder..what was it about D1 that makes it better then D2?

  Maelzrael

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11/16/13 5:15:12 PM#11

*rant*

THEY BETTER GIVE US PC PLAYERS SOME COOL STUFF TO GO WITH THE EXPANSION FOR SUPPORTING THEM ALL THIS TIME(though most did not) CUZ CONSOLE EXCLUSIVES FOR A PC GAME REALLY PISSES ME OFF. 

/rant.

  Radoo

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11/16/13 5:56:07 PM#12

HA!

I still have my copy with the Hellfire update. This is what got me fascinated and started me on the genre. Diablo 2 and its LoD expansion was a good followup, Diablo 3 was a major let down.

The original Diablo version brings back many memories of countless hours spent trying to unlock those "never seen before" skill animations (and skill concepts)  for back then :)

  Strayfe

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11/16/13 6:06:07 PM#13
Diablo 3 doesn't deserve to be called Diablo.
 
The relentless simplification of the game killed what was the franchise's main selling point: it's customization and replayability.  No two games of D1 or D2 were ever alike.  In D3, I never really had any incentive or feeling like I wanted to roll another of the same character class.
 
I'm really starting to feel like Bobby Kotick ripped the heart out of Blizzard.
  ThomasN7

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11/16/13 6:37:25 PM#14
Too bad Blizzard North is no longer. They would have made a great D3.
  Braindome

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11/16/13 6:55:40 PM#15
Originally posted by TheHavok
Originally posted by franko79
Diablo 1 - great game, Diablo 2 - boring like hell, Diablo 3 - good game, Diablo 3 + Ex will be great game again.

Interesting you state that about D1 and D2. I have one other friend that has the same opinion, despite it being a generally unpopular opinion. So, that makes me wonder..what was it about D1 that makes it better then D2?

 

Better more straight forward dungeoneering and progression, more simple and to the point while challenging, perfect balanced gameplay "not easy, not impossible" while being not overly complicated, easy to join games and find people even if they didn't want to be found, lol.

I also prefer D1 and I respect that they tried to make the core design of D3 similar, yet they forgot the magic as listed above, it is overly complicated and unbalanced.

Like all older classic games the main thing I would say is perfectly balanced difficulty is what made D1 king. 

  VicodinTaco

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11/16/13 7:10:06 PM#16

I enjoyed D3 for a bit until I realized how incomplete their loot system was at launch.  As soon as I get one whiff that major game systems are going to get revamped at some point I'm out right away.  

 

It seems like they are still working on it.  I was surprised to remember that D3 was released in 2012!  It seemed like this summer lol.

 

Best thing about D3 is I found out about Path of Exile in the process.  About level 30 I started to realize just how much meat is in POE.  The game has loads of substance.

 

 

  zymurgeist

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11/16/13 7:27:19 PM#17
Originally posted by ThomasN7
Too bad Blizzard North is no longer. They would have made a great D3.

Maybe but the Blizzard North alumni have made nothing that's lasted since D2. People forget how much The rest of Blizzard put into D1 & D2 and how many names in the credits have remained at Blizzard.

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  Banquetto

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11/16/13 7:55:11 PM#18
Originally posted by jbombard
Also note a great many of those first day sales were free with a WoW 1 year subscription.  It was a game that was acclaimed by the critics yet rejected by much of the loyal diablo fan base that stuck with Blizzard from D1.

So.. if "a great many" of the 3.5 million launch day sales were free with WoW subs.. do you have an excuse handy as for why it sold another 10.5 million copies since then? Despite the fact that "much of the loyal Diablo fan base" rejected it?

Honestly, I don't know why kids on the internet find it so incredibly difficult to accept that just because they didn't like a game, it doesn't mean that nobody liked it.

  FrodoFragins

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11/17/13 12:25:58 AM#19

I'd love to know why Blizzard never chose to make a sequel to LOD.  I'm sure they could have come up with some great stuff.

 

Diablo 3 was one of my biggest disappointments in gaming history. :(

  zymurgeist

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11/17/13 3:55:13 AM#20
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I'd love to know why Blizzard never chose to make a sequel to LOD.  I'm sure they could have come up with some great stuff.

 

Diablo 3 was one of my biggest disappointments in gaming history. :(

Blizzard never made a sequel to LoD because the story was over. All three prime evils were defeated. They went right into planning for D3. Then Dave Brevik and the Schaefers imploded Blizzard North. Vivendi Universals bad management played a big part in that.

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