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  Consuetudo

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Joined: 6/20/12
Posts: 102

 
OP  11/05/13 8:16:54 PM#1

We want it to die, or at least for its hegemony to end. Many view it as a sort of plague that has infected the genre, and I am quick to agree with those people. And yet for years I enjoyed WoW, and I have a deep love of the Warcraft core. Why is it I would avoid this game and have a love/hate relationship with it? 

Because to me, only Azeroth and the Outland felt like a virtual world. Those classic zones that explored the world of Warcraft RTS games was vividly amazing to me, and I felt incredibly immersed into those games as a result. 

But as time went on, my feeling of immersion into this world decreased substantially. No longer was this world something celebrated by that proverbial community of geeks whose hobby has been taken from them, but now it's a game portrayed on TV and commercials, made a commodity of and robbed of its splendour. 

Of all the MMORPGs I have shopped for, this is still the best one. For the others just seek to copy it (despite what the original thing WoW might have copied is, etc). I have played private servers, but I cannot get past the crushing feeling that once I get to the end, advancement into new content would be impossible. 

I am not opposed to new content. Indeed, I can hardly enjoy the old content anymore, as I've done it a thousand times and now I'm just walking around in a memorial ghosttown. But that new content should be thoughtful and captivating, and still present the sense that this game is a virtual world. 

 

  rodingo

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Joined: 1/18/07
Posts: 1718

11/05/13 8:25:05 PM#2
Instead of trying to find a way to "fix" WoW, why not just accept the fact that the game has ran it's course with you and you with it?  Just depart ways and remember the good times.   I have a gut feeling that is what most of us who don't play anymore have done.

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  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19498

11/05/13 8:27:06 PM#3

Simple .. make a MOBA out of warcraft lore.

Or may be even an online FPS with warcraft lore .. now that will be new.

  goboygo

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Joined: 10/02/13
Posts: 352

11/05/13 11:13:18 PM#4
A time machine.
  FrodoFragins

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Joined: 4/29/10
Posts: 2766

11/05/13 11:20:00 PM#5
For me, adding progression servers would be a lot of fun.  Let us start at the beginning of PVE and work forward.
  Thupli

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Joined: 7/25/11
Posts: 404

11/05/13 11:31:12 PM#6

Classic Server

TBC Server

WOTLK Server

 

I started in TBC.  I'd like to experience the level 60, and 70 (stuff I didn't get to) with Blizzard servers.  It's lame to roll through that content because you outlevel it or are a blood DK (just saying!)

 

**************

 

On a side note, I'd love to see either full scaling of characters to zones, just like Gw2, or get rid of levels altogether.  The latter would be hard for many people to stomach, but scaling toons to zone levels would be awesome and could open up some amazing open world pvp and just plain fun to play through old content.

  Ender4

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Joined: 5/18/08
Posts: 2056

11/05/13 11:33:55 PM#7

Yeah at this point you need to revert the last 2 awful expansions and start over.

  Volgore

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11/05/13 11:37:08 PM#8
Fire Idiotcrawler before he does even more damage to the game.
  aRtFuLThinG

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Joined: 4/30/09
Posts: 1011

11/05/13 11:49:01 PM#9

Why fix WoW at this stage?

 

Even Blizzard wants it to die... if it wasn't making them so much money still. The engine is so old there is just no saving it (unless you rebuild the thing).

  maplestone

Novice Member

Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 3109

11/06/13 12:21:59 AM#10

It's hard to bottle moments in time.  Innocence.  Meeting the right people at the right time.   The perfect balance of expectation and surprise.

It's not unique to WoW ... I feel terribly nostalgic about my first favourite MMO too and can remember when I felt far more connected to it..

  Datastar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/07/13
Posts: 160

11/06/13 12:31:13 AM#11
A miracle.
  djazzy

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Joined: 6/20/05
Posts: 3623

11/06/13 12:57:51 AM#12
Is it broken?
  Eyrothath

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Joined: 9/01/08
Posts: 198

11/06/13 1:13:52 AM#13
If I were Blizzard I would make a World of Warcraft 2 and make it a sandbox MMO..
  Thomas2006

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Joined: 11/16/05
Posts: 766

11/06/13 1:20:03 AM#14


Originally posted by Thupli
Classic Server

TBC Server

WOTLK Server

 

I started in TBC.  I'd like to experience the level 60, and 70 (stuff I didn't get to) with Blizzard servers.  It's lame to roll through that content because you outlevel it or are a blood DK (just saying!)

 

**************

 

On a side note, I'd love to see either full scaling of characters to zones, just like Gw2, or get rid of levels altogether.  The latter would be hard for many people to stomach, but scaling toons to zone levels would be awesome and could open up some amazing open world pvp and just plain fun to play through old content.


It hasnt been announced yet, but they are planning on bringing back alot of the old content (dungeons, raids) via there characer scaling system. The hard part has been finding a good reward system to encourage players to go back and play the old content.

The ideal is that when you que into one of the older raids your character will simply be scaled back down to the level of the content / raid in question. If it was a level 60 raid then your characters gear, health, ect. will be scaled down to that of a level 60.

They may even take it a step even more an allow you to (sidekick) to that of a lower level to enjoy the older content with friends just leveling up, ect.

It's one of the big features to be announced at blizzcon if the latest cropping of bugs are to be believed. It's something they have mentioned they are working on just they didnt have a good way to encourage / reward people for doing the content.

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  Lord.Bachus

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Joined: 5/14/07
Posts: 8591

I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can.

11/06/13 1:30:21 AM#15

you cant fix that which is not broken..

 

but you can improve things. 

-add downscaling to the level of the zones, give the people a reason to play lower level solo and group content while at max level... there is so much goodness unexplored currently

-add an AA system best combined with the above system

-a graphical update of older zones..

 

And espescially, make content more challenging. and add some more dynamic things to PvE to make it less predictable

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  coretex666

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/03/12
Posts: 1816

"I shall take your position into consideration"

11/06/13 3:49:41 AM#16

You cant just make products jump between different stages of product lifecycle. You can apply measures to maximize profit in different stages of PLC. Blizz does so. 

There is no magical "fixing" that would stop the decline.

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  Muke

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Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 1598

11/06/13 3:56:35 AM#17
Originally posted by Consuetudo

We want it to die, or at least for its hegemony to end. Many view it as a sort of plague that has infected the genre, and I am quick to agree with those people. And yet for years I enjoyed WoW, and I have a deep love of the Warcraft core. Why is it I would avoid this game and have a love/hate relationship with it? 

Because to me, only Azeroth and the Outland felt like a virtual world. Those classic zones that explored the world of Warcraft RTS games was vividly amazing to me, and I felt incredibly immersed into those games as a result. 

But as time went on, my feeling of immersion into this world decreased substantially. No longer was this world something celebrated by that proverbial community of geeks whose hobby has been taken from them, but now it's a game portrayed on TV and commercials, made a commodity of and robbed of its splendour. 

Of all the MMORPGs I have shopped for, this is still the best one. For the others just seek to copy it (despite what the original thing WoW might have copied is, etc). I have played private servers, but I cannot get past the crushing feeling that once I get to the end, advancement into new content would be impossible. 

I am not opposed to new content. Indeed, I can hardly enjoy the old content anymore, as I've done it a thousand times and now I'm just walking around in a memorial ghosttown. But that new content should be thoughtful and captivating, and still present the sense that this game is a virtual world. 

 

Congratulations, you have come to the point where you realize that a certain game does not appeal you anymore and you've outgrown it and think of the good memories 'back then'.

It happens to every mmo player, it means to close that book, think of the memories and move on.

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  jdlamson75

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Joined: 12/27/08
Posts: 897

There's some lovely filth down here.

11/06/13 4:12:33 AM#18
Originally posted by nariusseldon

Simple .. make a MOBA out of warcraft lore.

Or may be even an online FPS with warcraft lore .. now that will be new.

Battlefield 2140Warcraft.  I'd hop on that one.

  Galadourn

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Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 1051

11/06/13 4:13:05 AM#19
revert back to Vanilla WoW and pick it up from there.

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  PieRad

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Joined: 11/14/08
Posts: 1169

11/06/13 4:24:08 AM#20

In TBC you had to be attuned to raid karazhan, and the guilds would require you to be in full blue gear! It wasn't that hard to get into raiding, even for someone new to the game.

 

But now, WoW adopted Gearscore (ilvl), which was a huge mistake, now you see people requireing higher Ilvl than you can get in normal raid just to come to a pug flex.. AND, you have to have the achievement for completing the raid in the first place.. It's at a point where people ask for achievement for completing content that just opened up that same week.. They just ask for achieve for anything without thinking about it... So stupid.

 

And to add to that, the legendary cloak is ilvl 606, so when they set the ilvl req for a something, they don't think about the people who doesn't have the cloak yet and therefor got way lower ilvl, those people might even be better than those with the cloak, but all that matters to people is the ilvl.

 

This can't be fixed now, people would rage if you took away their precious ilvl, because how else will you know you are way better than the dude 3 ilvl's below you... sarcasm btw.

 

 

But whatever, there's not much to do in WoW anyway, weekly LFR, weekly Flex, and raid with your guild, that's the same content on 3 different difficulties, have fun.

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