Trending Games | WildStar | World of Warships | The Witcher 3 | World of Warcraft

    Facebook Twitter YouTube
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,986,420 Users Online:0
Games:830  Posts:6,436,112
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Armored Warfare Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Bionic Marine Command Online Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blackguards 2 Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodborne Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chroma Squad Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Heart Online Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dying Light Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthlock: Festival of Magic Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Fable Legends Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Hand of Fate Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Immune Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Necropolis Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Nova Genesis Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Chronicles Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Coast Legends Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Trapped Dead: Lockdown Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utherous Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » Why not more SandBox MMO's.

3 Pages 1 2 3 » Search
52 posts found

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/10/07
Posts: 1000

OP  11/02/13 3:26:30 AM#1

Seriously the reason I think most MMO's Absolutely Fail.

1.) Limits, Every MMO I play which is F2P, or Pay 2 Play has Limits on what players can do for example "Crafting" Who ever said that a game has to limit a persons Character to a Single Craft. Like Age OF Wushu for example I check out the game recently it was updated became a bit better, but I am still limited to one craft and that immediately turned me away from the game because they list the game as a Sand-Box have a bad reputation anyways and its not a true sand-box.

. Who ever said that a MMO has to have limits on what players can enjoy.

Any mmorpg made after 2010 Should have

. Free Barbershop

. No limits on crafting skills

. Why the need for multiple characters, one character can do all Roles with a Role Changing system like Dark-Fall.

. Take path of exile for example having spell reflect which can instant kill a person is the reason I don't play because I can't play full crit build or I kill myself limiting the path I can take to enjoy my game. It does say I can build any way I want to but really can't do so if I can 1 hit myself and playing hard-core which kills the experience for me.

2.) Games which currently have this.

. EVE Online, Although I quit the game because of the changes made in  Odyssey it killed the EVE Experience for me specifically scanning, and mining changes I did not like at all.

. Dark Fall Online.

. Final Fantasy XIV

. Albion Online

3.) So why other MMO's like Guild Wars 2, do not support Freedom to learn all crafts and level them max is beyond me, well technically they do, but having to go and constantly swap skill-sets is annoying as hell I want the ability to walk over to a table and craft with tailor go over to the next table cook my food like Dark-Fall or EVE, there is absolutely no sense why GW2 Limits this. Besides Nice Graphics GW1 was way better GW2 Lacks Skill Customization like GW1 had.

I hope to see in the future more Freedom come to mmorpg based games that are created and released to give players the freedom to experience their RPG how they choose to do such, not scripted systems restricting crafting, or customization/barbershop which is just stupid.

Every MMO that I have played that has been released from Perfect World, or all these other F2P Games do not offer Good Content even when paying over $30 a month like Age OF Wushu for example if I had the ability to experience a full sand-box MMO for $20 a month I would subscribe and enjoy the game but I am restricted I have to use 6 accounts to enjoy the game the way I want that means I would have to spend hundreds of dollars a month to make every account a VIP or just make one a VIP. 

Even Buy 2 Play games like GW2 have serious restrictions which I do not feel they should have, even some Pay 2 Play games have restrictions on crafts, and are not innovative at all to support new 2010 gaming demands that players would like to have in a RPG.

Take Sony for a good example their F2P Games like EQ2, and PlanetSide 2 Suck, both games lag like heck they blame my PC as being the problem, but the real problem Sony needs better developers, same thing with Fire Fall, and Gamers First with APB Reloaded. 

> Planet Side 1 works Great no lag issues 100% smooth to me.

> Planet Side 2 Lags like crazy. ( Well I can play it if I wanted, but with the game not feeling 100% smooth like PS1) I refuse to.  "Also the character Models in Planet Side 2 are a complete laugh."

> DCUO Plays Great, I just don't like the lack of customization and content so I don't play it for example many characters to do what one character should be able to do in the game.

> APB Reloaded, When RTW run the game besides hackers it preform great, Recently with new patches when Gamers First changed the Login screen I get weird popping sounds from my PC, the lack of Customization in game, and changes made by Gamers First completely killed the game for me great game Bad company.

> Nexon, a Bunch of Liars I remember when they released Combat Arms years ago it played great now lag, now I play recently it lags like crazy compared to years ago, they also promised players that it would not really be Pay 2 Win but add specialists to a game and made me quit the game.

It seems that Game Developers are getting pretty lazy when it comes to Development of games, I am waiting to see a Real 2013/2014 MMO that I can actively play and do as I please.

. All on a single character using Class Swap, and power Swap like if DCUO allowed me to recall to safe hub and change my weapon types and Power I would likely be playing DCUO.

. No Limits to Crafting.

Games that might be good which I already backed is Currently "Star Citizen" I don't know much about "Black Desert" or Trion's new game "Arche Age" But I feel these two MMO's will likely be a massive Failure. No developers seem to know how to design a good game anymore.

Years ago when Technology, Coding, and Game Engines really did not exist to create good games where players could freely change with a barber shop, or change classes with a single character it was okay, but today is 2013, not 1999-2005 when these ideas were not around. 

So for the love of god give us some Good MMO's for 2014 that don't have all these restrictions from the past.


Novice Member

Joined: 10/14/04
Posts: 1716

Iarð skal rifna, ok upphiminn.

11/02/13 3:39:10 AM#2

Content is the golden pin and the tenuous link that dictates much of this.


The quality, abundance, complexity, control, and implementation of the content that drives sandbox games is all factors that have made the genre very hard to pull off well.


My brain is a bit too short on thinking power at the moment to actually explain things though. >_<

As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero. - Vaarsuvius


Novice Member

Joined: 6/12/12
Posts: 1492

11/02/13 3:42:03 AM#3

Damn, your post is hard to read. I couldn't make it all the way through. Anyway,  you seem to want a game that allows your character to have no weaknesses at all. Single players have something like that called "god mode". Most people don't play games in that way for more for my than 5 minutes because it gets really boring fast. Tradeoffs and risk/reward decisions make games more fun for most people.


Honestly I don't know what other points you were making other than "These games all suck because I found one thing about them I don't like!" But a sandbox is still going to have limits on your power because allowing the player to do literally anything they want would be both stupid and not work at all in a multiplayer environment. What is the point of having other people around if your character can do anything in the game all by himself?




Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4909

11/02/13 3:43:46 AM#4
90% of people asking for a "true" sandbox would be bored in under a week if they really got one.

Elite Member

Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 1490

11/02/13 3:59:05 AM#5

A post laden with contradictions.

Game plays great!  Oh except for this thing which I don't like.

The fallacy in your argument ( more like complaint) is that all games should be specifically designed for you.  Do you have any idea the amount of design decisions that go into making an MMO?  Well neither do I but it must be a huge number and if you think that you will like or agree with each and every one, then you are eating pie in the sky my friend. 

I play many different MMO's.  Of course there are things I like and don't like about each one.  Difference between me and you is I put the emphasis on things I do like, whereas you, as well as many other posters here seem to go out of your way find as many negatives as you can.    Its a vicious circle and you will never enjoy games as long as you continue looking at them in this way.

Its not a Perfect World! (pun intended) and you are never going to find that perfect game.  Get over it!


FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!


Advanced Member

Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 47

11/08/13 11:51:18 PM#6
Originally posted by DamonVile
90% of people asking for a "true" sandbox would be bored in under a week if they really got one.

So very true. The vast majority want a path to follow to some direction. They want a point to their character and many have an idea when they make a character how they want them to end up. All of these concepts are themepark concepts and while could be in a sandbox it would never be a true sandbox. A true sandbox would be a complete bored very quickly to most players if not almost all.


Advanced Member

Joined: 5/18/08
Posts: 2269

11/08/13 11:58:28 PM#7

Because most MMORPG players complain the second a game becomes hard or doesn't lead them around by the nose. The player base is the issue, not so much the games themselves. The average player is the problem, not the games.


Advanced Member

Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1389

11/09/13 12:00:08 AM#8
there is some nice sandbox multi player games releasing but not true mmorpgs. Starforge 7 days to die the dead linger planet explorers and realm explorers are all nice multiplayer sandbox games but lack true mmorpg servers since they are indie games. I think a lot more people would actually be turned onto sandbox style games if every single mmorpg version that comes out wasnt full loot pvp and designed around pvp all the time anywhere. Some people like to have a break from pvp all the time and just relax and craft things, look at how well SWG did for many years , it was a good sandbox that had you have to flag for pvp if you wanted to represent your faction but crafting was its major gem of that game. Xsyon was another true pve sandbox but they made the stupid mistake of allowing full loot pvp on a unfinished game and had morons building giant holes where new players would log in just to grief them . Now after he finally gets on steam he finally wants to make a pve server to attract more players. I think majority of sandboxes fail and remain small is the fact that people do not want to spend days and hours building up stuff only to have it destroyed and griefed. If you can remember sandbox games remember back to shadowbane that had a HUGE population but quickly lost 99% of it because of that exact same reason.


Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 8260

11/09/13 1:29:11 AM#9
They take more thought to develop. More variables need to be considered. Much easier use copy past and slap a 50$ price tag on a digital box and make a few million dollars.
J.O.B. Daggerfalls BEST Gank Crew


Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 544

11/09/13 1:35:20 AM#10
Sandbox has become a very loose term where people think EQN is going to be a sandbox just because the devs say so and they let you design some areas to pay for. I guess Neverwinter is a sandbox in that case *facepalm*
  User Deleted
11/09/13 1:40:07 AM#11

Why not more sandbox MMOs?

Maybe game developers want their games to be successful. 


Spotlight Poster

Joined: 10/21/09
Posts: 524

11/09/13 1:44:59 AM#12

More gamers than not prefer to have direction, it is not being led around by the nose to have a point to the game, such as quests and storylines and goals. It is simply having activities to do versus wandering around grinding aimlessly.

I for one don't want a character that can do everything, just like in real life, I don't want to go to a doctor that is also a lumberjack, a magician, a racecar driver, a lawyer, a baker, a police officer and a minister.... I would really prefer they focused on medicine.

Playing God gets boring.

I really feel my sig says it all about sandbox lovers, it is ultimately the only way to please one.


PS: SWG was NOT a sandbox, apparently people's memories are all fuzzy... you didn't have as much freedom as you remember having.


I would like to give an opinion on this post, but if I agree I will offend people who disagree. While if I disagree my comment will be seen as inflammatory. Either way I will get banned by this site full of the most delicate flowers in online gaming. Ban people for giving honest opinions... beautiful. Unfortunately I still like the articles.


Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 544

11/09/13 1:46:02 AM#13
Originally posted by grimgryphon

Why not more sandbox MMOs?

Maybe game developers want their games to be successful. 

Ya but they're not successful so obviously infinite clones of WoW aren't working are they?

Time for something new. So far my vote is with Black Desert and Pathfinder.


Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/09/13
Posts: 427

11/09/13 1:48:36 AM#14

I like being able to be everything on one character but at the same time i think its stupid.

i shouldnt be able to master everything, its unrealistic.

I think you should have a main class and profession and anything learned after that is gated a bit. You can level your other profs but once you become a master in one the rest you can only be a journeyman or something.


Spotlight Poster

Joined: 10/21/09
Posts: 524

11/09/13 1:49:23 AM#15

Name a single successful true sandbox.


I would like to give an opinion on this post, but if I agree I will offend people who disagree. While if I disagree my comment will be seen as inflammatory. Either way I will get banned by this site full of the most delicate flowers in online gaming. Ban people for giving honest opinions... beautiful. Unfortunately I still like the articles.


Advanced Member

Joined: 9/20/13
Posts: 72

11/09/13 1:55:34 AM#16
Originally posted by Renoaku> DCUO Plays Great, I just don't like the lack of customization

Saw this and the reading came to a dead stop. This comment alone makes me question the entire validity of your post, and here's why.

I played DCUO for quite awhile (several months, all day every day). During that period of time, not ONCE did i ever see a person who looked like i did NOR did they have the same skill kit as i. I raided with a bunch of different people, helped countless do quests and do daily's, and not one time during any of that did i find a person who played like anybody else nor looked like anybody else.

(Addendum, i take back that NOBODY looked the same. I saw a few "deadpool" wannabes in my time. They we're also incredibly illiterate.)

Maybe you would be better off playing Garry's Mod.


Advanced Member

Joined: 3/10/04
Posts: 5213

Be Brief, Be Bright... Be Gone.

11/09/13 1:58:13 AM#17
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Sandbox has become a very loose term where people think EQN is going to be a sandbox just because the devs say so and they let you design some areas to pay for. I guess Neverwinter is a sandbox in that case *facepalm*

Odd.  I thought they were calling it a sandbox because it appears to offer massive control in letting you create.  Which is kinda the main part about a sandbox... you know creating things with sand.

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.


Elite Member

Joined: 5/14/07
Posts: 9066

I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can.

11/09/13 2:04:43 AM#18

Because sandbox is a niche...  98% of people cant handle them, they prefer to be entertained... and so the people that actually stick ith sandboxes are very low in number..


Its all about making money....  and a themepark with some sandbox feeling sells much better the a full sandbox game.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)


Spotlight Poster

Joined: 10/21/09
Posts: 524

11/09/13 2:10:03 AM#19

Can anyone actually define a sandbox at this point?


Seems to most users on this site that a Sandbox is a game that makes you invulnerable, all powerful  and allows you to do anything you want and create anything you want. I am not even sure how you encapsulate that into a game, when people want to be dual chainsaw laser sword wielding, sniper, ninja, pirate, cyborg, healer, dps master, tank and time traveller who is also an architect, butcher, armorsmith, weaponsmith, herbalist, medic, tailor, painter and pizza delivery guy.

I would like to give an opinion on this post, but if I agree I will offend people who disagree. While if I disagree my comment will be seen as inflammatory. Either way I will get banned by this site full of the most delicate flowers in online gaming. Ban people for giving honest opinions... beautiful. Unfortunately I still like the articles.


Novice Member

Joined: 10/04/13
Posts: 47

11/09/13 2:11:46 AM#20
I'll go out on a limb and say they generally fail, are always bad quality and low population.
3 Pages 1 2 3 » Search